# Fuck You, Judd Gregg **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 12, 2009, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-judd-gregg/485598 "2009-02-12T22:07:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2009, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-judd-gregg/485598/241 "2009-02-14T20:43:23Z")
> [@Stephe96](#): > > I’d say that attempting to “obstruct” an incredibly stupid plan like Obama’s Hogzilla stimulus package is a very good idea. Since you’ve obviously read the entirety of the bill and are well-versed with its many complexities, would you mind explaining, for those of us who haven’t the time or brain power to research on our own, exactly which portions you disagree with and what you propose in their place? Please, take as much space as you need. If you can do so convincingly, you run a greater chance of converting posters on this board to your side than if you simply keep parroting talk-radio slurs like “Hussein” and “Hogzilla,” which is probably highly effective on the other boards you frequent, but here just reinforces the impression (inaccurate, I’m sure) that you’re not very educated or clever. ---
**Author:** ![Claptree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/58f4c7/32.png) [@Claptree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Claptree)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2009, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-judd-gregg/485598/242 "2009-02-14T21:16:13Z")
Not so. To me, it makes him seem surprisingly clever. It seems likely after all that he’s mastered copy and paste. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2009, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-judd-gregg/485598/243 "2009-02-14T21:56:36Z")
Neatly done, **Claptree**. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2009, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-judd-gregg/485598/244 "2009-02-14T22:16:43Z")
> [@Stephe96](#): > > Funny how when Bush was in office the hysterical libs called _their_ opposition “speaking truth to power.” I guess now it’s just considered “obstruction.” When the President of the United States — and yes, I realize you have no respect for what you consider to be the Head Negro in Charge, but bear with me here — comes to Capitol Hill for a special meeting with the leaders of the opposition to discuss the bill, and those leaders circulate word before he even arrives to oppose the bill they’re about to discuss with him, then fuckin’ A: it’s goddamn obstruction. ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2009, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-judd-gregg/485598/245 "2009-02-14T22:35:55Z")
> [@Liberal](#): > > The American public is having similar trouble: > > [Obama Up, Republicans down in Gallup Poll](http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/seattlepolitics/archives/161625.asp) That poll was confirmed and complemented by the [latest CNN poll](http://http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/02/13/poll-trouble-signs-for-obama-picks-over-cabinet/). The CNN/Opinion Research Corporation survey Posted: 04:15 PM ET February 13, 2009 Obama is: \*providing strong leadership for the country – 80% \*handling foreign policy – 76% \*dealing with the economy – 72% \*handling policies on terrorism – 68% \*choosing his Cabinet – 61% \*overall approval rating – 76% Great numbers, but, “liberal media” my ass. The headline of the poll is “Poll: Trouble signs for Obama over Cabinet picks?” which if you didn’t read the numbers, might cause undue worry and fretting. But “choosing his Cabinet” is 61%! Oh and you have to chuckle at how this is worded. > [@](#): > > The CNN/Opinion Research Corporation survey released this week **suggests that 61 percent** of those questioned give the president a thumbs-up when it comes to choosing his Cabine… _“Suggests”_ that 61 percent give him a thumbs-up? It’s _their_ fucking poll! And this is hilarious: > [@](#): > > While 61 percent is a solid majority, _ **it’s far lower than** _ the 80 percent of respondents who say Obama is providing strong leadership for the country, the 76 percent who feel he’s doing a good job handling foreign policy, the 72 percent who indicate Obama’s doing a good job dealing with the economy and the 68 percent who give the President a thumbs-up when it comes to handling policies on terrorism. > > It’s also 15 points lower than the president’s overall approval rating of 76 percent. Never mind the other numbers, the lowest one, which is still pretty high, is the one to worry about. There aren’t enough eye rolls. But those poll numbers point up how important it is for the Republicans to stop being such wimps and get out there and tell the American people how wrong President Obama is and how he’s hurting the country. I don’t know why they’re being so timid. They ought to be shouting, red-faced and fervent, on all the talk shows and news programs, from every bully pulpit and the halls of Congress. What the hell is their problem? They’re not going to get the word out and tell the American people how and what to think by being so quiet! ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2009, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-judd-gregg/485598/246 "2009-02-14T23:11:14Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > **Shodan** , I can’t believe you made that post with a straight face Believe it. Remember who you’re talking about there. But do give him credit for not “accidentally” misspelling Obama with an S, too. He hasn’t been quite that infantile yet. Close, very close, but not that yet. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2009, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-judd-gregg/485598/247 "2009-02-14T23:13:59Z")
> [@Equipoise](#): > > But those poll numbers point up how important it is for the Republicans to stop being such wimps and get out there and tell the American people how wrong President Obama is and how he’s hurting the country. I don’t know why they’re being so timid. They ought to be shouting, red-faced and fervent, on all the talk shows and news programs, from every bully pulpit and the halls of Congress. What the hell is their problem? They’re not going to get the word out and tell the American people how and what to think by being so quiet! That’s not enough. We also need to develop some sort of mechanism in this country by which the citizens could communicate their desires on which party’s policies should be followed. Some means by which we could - oh I dunno - every two years or four years decide who should lead the country. If only such a thing existed Republicans would never be in the situation they are now. ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2009, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-judd-gregg/485598/248 "2009-02-15T01:51:31Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > > [@tomndebb](#): > > > > Simply using a right-wing racist’s appellation for the president is not trolling and I never said it was. > > This is pretty clearly false. Here is the exchange: > > > [@tomndebb](#): > > > > > [@Jimmy Chitwood](#): > > > > > > No, seriously, Stephe96: why do you keep calling the president by his middle name? > > > > Simple trolling. Thank you for making my point. I did not feed the troll or even address him. I simply noted to another poster that the reason for Stephe96’s continued use of the president’s middle name was part of an act of trolling. > [@Shodan](#): > > Further, the President’s middle name is not a right-wing racist’s appellation; it is his middle name, and given to him by his father. The fact that the name was bestowed by his father is irrelevant. The name one uses to address or refer to another person is generally based on the manner in which the person indicates or on the manner in which his friends and family address or refer to him. In this case, referring to the president (or, previously, the candidate) as Obama or Barry corresponds to that practice. On the other hand, over the last twelve months, the only people who have routinely referred to the gentleman using the name, (_i.e._, appellation), “Hussein” have been racists on the political Right trying to associate him with the deposed leader of Iraq. Therefore, my point is exactly correct. > [@Shodan](#): > > So, please clarify - is calling the President by his middle name trolling - yes, or no? Simply referring to the current president by his middle name is just being stupid, (or, perhaps, insulting, given that it is not the way in which he and his friends and family refer to him). Using the middle name of another president, such as the second President Bush or President Wilson, when they often (or always) used their middle name, themselves, is simply following the practice they established and would not be trolling. Using only the middle name of the current president in a formulaic comment repeated numerous times in a thread for the purpose of getting a rise out of the easily irritated is trolling. Since that was a central aspect of Stephe96’s first several (trolling) posts, then the short answer to the question “why do you keep calling the president by his middle name?” is “Trolling.” > [@Shodan](#): > > is it trolling when posters call Bush Dubya? Only if you think that GWB referring to himself as Dubya, which he has done–after, apparently, coining the name, himself–would be trolling. > [@Shodan](#): > > If no, why did you falsely accuse **Stephe96** of trolling? I did not falsely accuse Stephe96 of anything. I accurately noted that his first several posts in this thread were trolling, NOT by the single use of the president’s middle name, as you dishonestly ask, here, but by the entire context of his posts. > [@Shodan](#): > > > [@](#): > > > > (It would be nice if you participated in **GD** rather than dropping your line in that Forum, but since your nonsense is neither more nor less idiotic than the nonsense spewed by some of the more hostile, unthinking members of the Left, I figure it all balances out. > > You are alleging that I do not participate in GD, which is even more ridiculous. > > The actual translation of the above is that you are combing desperately thru my posts to find or manufacture a reason to warn me, since you are irritated that I pointed out a left-wing poster’s violation of the rules of GD. Nah. You give yourself airs. You are among a number of posters on the Left and Right whose submissions to Great Debates are simply unconsidered expressions of partisanship. I have no more interest in warning you than the others as long as you do not actually cross the lines. Your inflated views of either your opinions or your wit are on a par with the equivalent opinions made manifest by your opposite numbers on the Left. Listening to any talk radio program one will find lots of ignorant opinions expressed with great fervor. Yours and your corresponding Lefties’ are simply the stuff I have to wade through to read actual thoughtful opinions. > [@Shodan](#): > > > [@tomndebb](#): > > > > The problem with claiming that someone is an (x)-er is that no one ever notes that lack of the word “habitual” and nearly everyone assumes that it is present. > > So, now a troll is a troll if he habitually trolls. However - > > > [@tomndebb](#): > > > > However, **repeatedly** posting the same formulaic opening to nearly every post, using a construction that will clearly irritate the more easily goaded left-wingers on the board, is trolling and since the use of the president’s middle name was a core piece of that action, the answer to the question “why?” is answered by the broader response, “because he is trolling.” > > _(Emphasis added)_. > > [habitual > Adjective > > 1. done regularly and repeatedly: habitual behaviour patterns > 2. by habit: a habitual criminal > habitually adv]([Habitual - definition of habitual by The Free Dictionary](http://www.thefreedictionary.com/habitual)) > > So apparently it is OK to troll as long as you do so repeatedly, but not if you do so habitually. Then I will require that you rescind the warning you gave me in GD (cite available on request) since I do not troll either repeatedly or habitually. I’d have thought that even you would not be so stupid as to confuse what one does repeatedly in a single thread with what one habitually does in nearly every thread in which one posts. Apparently I overestimated your intelligence. ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2009, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-judd-gregg/485598/249 "2009-02-15T01:57:39Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > You said: How is this ‘deliberately’ misreading your post? You clearly intended to imply that I was getting my comments about Obama from Hannity and Beck, and what’s laughable about that is that _I never said them in the first place_! I implies no such thing. Your comments are couchewd in the language of those media hacks. Perhaps you sim-ply all drink from the same fountains of bad thoughs. What you choose to infer is not my problem, but I never said anything that indicated that they were the source of your nonsense. As to the rest: I treated you with a fair amount of respect for several years, despite our clear disagreements on numerous issues, only to be met by increasing vituperation and insult. I have still refrained from insulting you, so you will just have to go sulk over your grievous injuries without my participation. ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2009, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-judd-gregg/485598/250 "2009-02-15T02:21:02Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > That’s not enough. We also need to develop some sort of mechanism in this country by which the citizens could communicate their desires on which party’s policies should be followed. Some means by which we could - oh I dunno - every two years or four years decide who should lead the country. If only such a thing existed Republicans would never be in the situation they are now. I know. Sad, isn’t it? If only the people had had the chance to choose their leader, it’s obvious they would have chosen a doddering old man with medical problems, and a beautiful, feisty, right-wing airhead. No wonder the Republican are upset. Obama was _appointed_, not elected. Shit, he’s not even an American citizen! ---
**Author:** ![Carol\_Stream](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c2a13f/32.png) [@Carol\_Stream](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carol_Stream)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2009, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-judd-gregg/485598/251 "2009-02-15T02:26:41Z")
> [@tomndebb](#): > > I implies no such thing. Your comments are couchewd in the language of those media hacks. Perhaps you sim-ply all drink from the same fountains of bad thoughs. What you choose to infer is not my problem, but I never said anything that indicated that they were the source of your nonsense. > > As to the rest: I treated you with a fair amount of respect for several years, despite our clear disagreements on numerous issues, only to be met by increasing vituperation and insult. I have still refrained from insulting you, so you will just have to go sulk over your grievous injuries without my participation. " I implies"? “couchewd”? “sim-ply”? “thoughs”? Modes Posting Drunk! When does the DVD come out? ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2009, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-judd-gregg/485598/252 "2009-02-15T02:41:16Z")
“Modes”? Right Wingers Posting Drunk! When does the DVD come out? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tao_s_Revenge)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2009, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-judd-gregg/485598/253 "2009-02-15T02:44:39Z")
> [@Equipoise](#): > > “Modes”? Right Wingers Posting Drunk! When does the DVD come out? right wingers gone wild! …? \o/ \<\< ---
**Author:** ![Carol\_Stream](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c2a13f/32.png) [@Carol\_Stream](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carol_Stream)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2009, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-judd-gregg/485598/254 "2009-02-15T03:00:10Z")
> [@Equipoise](#): > > “Modes”? Right Wingers Posting Drunk! When does the DVD come out? Yeah, right, because only “Right Wingers” use the word Modes. Silly. ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2009, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-judd-gregg/485598/255 "2009-02-15T03:26:21Z")
> [@Carol\_Stream](#): > > " I implies"? “couchewd”? “sim-ply”? “thoughs”? > > Modes Posting Drunk! When does the DVD come out? Yeah, I got called away and hit submit before preview. Here is a slightly cleaned up version: > [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > You said: How is this ‘deliberately’ misreading your post? You clearly intended to imply that I was getting my comments about Obama from Hannity and Beck, and what’s laughable about that is that _I never said them in the first place_! It implies no such thing. Your comments are couched in the language of those media hacks. Perhaps you simply all drink from the same fountains of bad thoughts. What you choose to infer is not my problem, but I never said anything that indicated that they were the source of your nonsense. As to the rest: I treated you with a fair amount of respect for several years, despite our clear disagreements on numerous issues, only to be met by increasing vituperation and insult. I have still refrained from insulting you, so you will just have to go sulk over your grievous injuries without my participation. ---
**Author:** ![Carol\_Stream](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c2a13f/32.png) [@Carol\_Stream](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carol_Stream)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2009, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-judd-gregg/485598/256 "2009-02-15T03:33:46Z")
> [@tomndebb](#): > > Yeah, I got called away and hit submit before preview. > > Here is a slightly cleaned up version: OK, nice save. It did look weird coming from you, though. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2009, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-judd-gregg/485598/257 "2009-02-15T03:45:38Z")
I was picturing the late night TV shows offering “Mods Gone Wild”. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2009, 6:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-judd-gregg/485598/258 "2009-02-15T06:57:50Z")
> [@tomndebb](#): > > Yeah, I got called away and hit submit before preview. > > Here is a slightly cleaned up version: > > It implies no such thing. Your comments are couched in the language of those media hacks. Perhaps you simply all drink from the same fountains of bad thoughts. What you choose to infer is not my problem, but I never said anything that indicated that they were the source of your nonsense. > > As to the rest: I treated you with a fair amount of respect for several years, despite our clear disagreements on numerous issues, only to be met by increasing vituperation and insult. I have still refrained from insulting you, so you will just have to go sulk over your grievous injuries without my participation. First of all, I will acknowledge that my posting style has become somewhat more contentious during the time I’ve been here. But when you look at what I’ve had to say regarding the left which has so thoroughly pissed off many of the people around here off, and you consider that every day I read roughly twenty-five to fifty times as many insulting things about the right, I think it’s understandable that I’ve come to try to give as well as I get. As far as the relationship between the two of us goes, it’s obvious you feel you’ve been respectful toward me but that respect hasn’t been reciprocated. I suspect part of the problem is that you seem unaware of the insulting tone of your own posts. For example, you said just above that you still refrain from insulting me, yet in that very post you refer to my comments as “bad thoughts” and "nonsense’. Further, in the first of your posts upthread – the posts which are causing the current problem – your response to my having mentioned that I had been taking a wait and see attitude toward Obama was the following: \*"No you are not. You continually post this tripe, followed, immediately, by some sophomoric rejection of a position that Obama has not really taken, couched in the language of Hannity and Beck. Opposing Obama is fine. Continuously pretending that you are “trying” to “wait and see” when you repeatedly condemn him simply exposes your disingenuous remarks for what they are."\* And in the very next post you said: \*“Nothing released by Gregg or Obama provides any indication that Obama required a rubber stamp Secretary. You simply made that up after making one more of your baseless I’m trying to wait and see claims.” \* So, in this very thread you came blustering in to proclaim authoritatively that I have _not_ been taking the wait and see attitude I claimed; that I "continually’ post “tripe” to the effect that I have; that I follow this tripe with “sophomoric” rejections of positions Obama never took; that I couch my language in the words of Hannity and Beck; that I am merely “pretending” a wait and see attitude; that my remarks to that effect are “disingenuous”; and that I “simply made up” my comment about Gregg vs. Obama based on another of my “baseless” wait and see claims. And finally, you characterize my requests for an apology as “sulking”. By my count that make eleven insults in the short space of not even seven full lines of text. These insults are made even more offensive by the fact that there is not a word of truth to any of them. You then further insult me by refusing to look at cites I provided that prove you wrong, and then you wave away my perfectly justifiable request that you recant and apologize for your erroneous remarks about my posting behavior. So now we’re up to twelve insults and still no apology, despite the fact that **Richard Parker** , to his credit, looked at the posts I’ve made since the election and found that I was being honest. Now to my mind, these comments make up much of the tone of the you take with me. So how is it that you can claim to have always been civil to me and gotten nothing but vituperation and insults in return? Perhaps you only regard name-calling as insults, I don’t know. But I can assure you that I’ve felt that you have plenty insulting of me in the past and that this is why I’ve responded to you in the way I have. It’s in my general nature to pretty much give what I get. It’s something I was taught when I was young. If a poster approaches me respectfully and in good faith, I like to think that I respond in the same way even if we disagree vehemently on what we’re talking about. I will acknowledge that as time has gone by, and as the nonstop rightie-bashing that goes on around here has gotten to me, I may have occasionally gotten ugly with someone who hadn’t to that point insulted me personally. But I think (and hope) those times are rare, and if you can find examples where I’ve insulted you unprovoked, I would be happy to apologize. In light of your comments here, however, and the fact that you don’t seem to recognize you’re insulting me even as you’re doing so, I suspect that you’ve merely been blind to the insults in your own behavior. But all of this is pretty much beside the point. The point is that you made a lot of authoritative assertions about my motives and posting history which are provably false. It’s been pretty much de rigueur for as long as I’ve been here that when a poster makes a provably false assertion, he is expected (and rightfully so) to admit/retract it and apologize. It shouldn’t matter whether the offending poster doesn’t like the poster he’s offended or whether he feels he that poster has done him wrong in the past. So I think it’s only to be expected, if you want to avoid displaying the very disingenuousness and intellectual dishonesty that you have falsely accused me of, that you would recant your claims and aplogize for your false assertions. There isn’t a lot in the way of sportsmanship that goes on around here, and I’d hate to think that things have gotten to the point here where this tradition is allowed to fall by the wayside simply because the offending party doesn’t like the other poster or because he feels he has been disproportionately insulted in the past. ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2009, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-judd-gregg/485598/259 "2009-02-15T17:41:23Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > First of all, I will acknowledge that my posting style has become somewhat more contentious during the time I’ve been here. But when you look at what I’ve had to say regarding the left which has so thoroughly pissed off many of the people around here off, and you consider that every day I read roughly twenty-five to fifty times as many insulting things about the right, I think it’s understandable that I’ve come to try to give as well as I get. So. First you whine that lots of other posters are picking on you and that I have an obligation to cut you slack when you lash out with name-calling at posters who have not resorted to calling you names. Then you wander through some of my comments pretending that every single phrase on the same topic is a separate “insult” in order to rationalize your behavior toward me. This is the Pit. Suck it up. (However, since you are in full whine mode, I will take this opportunity to note that you have, on several occasions, made the claim that you could prove that it was all the liberals or hippies or something that caused the country to go in the toilet. On the first couple of occasions, responding to me (with at least one claim that you would “destroy” my “lies”), you came back complaining that your master thesis had been eaten by the board and on the next occasions you simply made your boast to others and slunk away without actually making good on your claim. Since you have used a couple of those occasions as an excuse to engage in name-calling at me, when I had not done anything similar toward you, you have demonstrated that your opinion is pretty much worthless in our interactions. You made your bed, lie in it. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2009, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-judd-gregg/485598/260 "2009-02-15T18:41:32Z")
So you’re the cowardly piece of shit I’ve thought you were all along. _You fucked up!_ You lied about my posting history and have refused to recant regardless of my and others’ undeniable refutation. This other silly shit of you accusing me of whining and lying about having lost one of my posts, etc., is nothing but a dodge to direct attention away from the fact that you have blatantly and unquestionably fucked up and refuse to admit it. This whiner has a long history of admitting it and apologizing when shown to be wrong and any search with my name and “apologize” will confirm that. You are obviously too weak, cowardly and morally immature to do the same. Whatever bed I may or may not have made has nothing to do with this issue and you know it. You lied (or blundered stupidly out of obvious malice) and now you refuse to recant and apologize for it. I would have thought that a modicum of intellectual honesty, and sufficient integrity to admit it and apologize when you’re wrong, would be a requirement for modship. Apparently not. I will look forward with amusement and an eager readiness to point out your failings as both a poster and moderator when any time in the future you have the gall to accuse another poster of lying, of lacking intellectual honesty, or to suggest that they recant and apologize when they are proven wrong. You have no integrity, no honesty, and no moral standing to be correcting anybody about anything. You set an extremely poor example for other posters to follow and you clearly don’t deserve to be a mod. Remember that test of integrity and intellectual honesty I mentioned? As expected you scored an F, and you scored it for all to see. Congratulations, putz. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-judd-gregg/485598.md?page=12) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-judd-gregg/485598.md?page=14)