# Fuck You, Las Vegas Mayor Carolyn Goodman

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 23, 2020, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-las-vegas-mayor-carolyn-goodman/852395 "2020-04-23T02:11:03Z")\
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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2020, 8:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-las-vegas-mayor-carolyn-goodman/852395/21 "2020-04-23T08:53:10Z")

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> [@friedo](#):
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> Most of the Strip resort area is in Paradise, not Las Vegas proper. The downtown casinos and Fremont area are within the city limits.
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> Carolyn Goodman has not acquitted herself well, to say the least. She’s been married to an admitted and unapologetic mafia goon (and the term-limited former mayor) for decades, who is widely suspected of continuing to run things. The Goodmans (including their brain-damaged son) do not exactly have a reputation as competent or principled administrators.

Goodman is a lawyer who represented Mob clients. Big difference there.

> **[Oscar Goodman](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oscar_Goodman)**
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> Oscar Baylin Goodman (born July 26, 1939) is an American attorney and politician. A Democrat-turned-independent, Goodman was the mayor of Las Vegas, Nevada from 1999 to 2011. His wife, Carolyn Goodman, succeeded him as mayor in 2011.
> Goodman was born and raised in a Jewish family in Philadelphia. After attending Central High School for a time, he graduated from The Haverford School. He graduated from Haverford College in 1961, then received his J.D. degree from the University of Pennsylvania Law...

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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2020, 8:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-las-vegas-mayor-carolyn-goodman/852395/22 "2020-04-23T08:58:31Z")

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> [@Siam\_Sam](#):
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> We had reservations this month in downtown, so we would have been in this **stupid bitch’s** territory.

> [@Siam\_Sam](#):
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> I suppose I should have mentioned that the stupid mayor wants Vegas – casinos, restaurants, you name it – reopened RIGHT NOW, but eh, it’s the owners’ responsibility to figure out how to make it safe, but do it RIGHT NOW, and hey, it’s just a little virus, we’ve had viruses before, what’s the big deal? **Stupid cunt.**

This board does have a misogyny problem. Its not just Siam Sam but also the so-called liberals who have posted here and let it slide.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2020, 9:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-las-vegas-mayor-carolyn-goodman/852395/23 "2020-04-23T09:28:12Z")

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Fortunately she’s relatively powerless. The governor controls the lockdown measures for the most part, and ours has been one of the best in the country at handling this crisis. She’s just a crazy agitator.

What’s especially stupid about this is even if Vegas declared itself fully open for business, no one is going to want to take a vegas vacation in the middle of this pandemic. And no one is going to want to spend money on a vacation in such unsure times financially, either. So we’re looking at, what, 10-20% of the normal utilization rate? So the upside, even if you’re a greedy owner who only cares about money, is pretty low.

On the other hand, Vegas instantly becomes part of the news worldwide in a negative way. Tourists are told in the strongest terms that we do not care about your health or safety. Vegas, even with limited traffic, becomes an international travel hub and epicenter for the virus. The casinos end up getting shut down anyway, but now Vegas’ reputation is in the dump, so not only have we dragged on the quarantine period, but Vegas’ reputation will suffer greatly in the future.

So, almost no upside, lots of downsides, people will die, and even if you are greedy and heartless, you barely make a buck anyway. It’s just a terrible, stupid idea from every angle.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2020, 9:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-las-vegas-mayor-carolyn-goodman/852395/24 "2020-04-23T09:32:12Z")

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> [@crowmanyclouds](#):
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> “What happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas\*”  
> \*Does not include the following: Viruses, STDs, Debt, ect. To see the full list go to [www.whatdoesnotstayinvegas.com](http://www.whatdoesnotstayinvegas.com)
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> CMC fnord!

Good one! Too bad that’s not a real site.

> [@crowmanyclouds](#):
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> The best part,  
> ‘When asked if she would be in casinos to prove their safety Mayor Goodman responded “I don’t gamble anymore.”’
> 
> CMC fnord!

Technically not true. She’s gambling with the lives of her constituents.

> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> What a trainwreck. She obviously had someone standing off camera, as she kept looking off to the side. I assume that would’ve been her comms person, who should now be fired for letting that shitshow continue for almost a half hour.
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> I used to work for a local newspaper, the town was about 100,000 people. Basically I was a scrub beat reporter fresh out of college in a midsize Midwestern town. I’d occasionally go into city hall to interview the mayor for a story I was working on. His comms person was always there, had a tape recorder going the whole time, and if questions ever got beyond what they were comfortable answering, the comms person would conveniently step in and tell me the mayor had another appointment. How in the fuck did this mayor and her team not just end this interview once it became painfully apparent she was making an ass of herself on national TV ?

How? They’re stupid. That’s how.

> [@Broomstick](#):
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> And when asked if she would be on the casino floor risking her own self she said, and I do quote:
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> “Why would I do that? I have a family.”
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> There are not enough emoticons :eek::smack::eek::smack::eek::smack::eek::smack::eek::smack:

Yeah. Let’s take care of my family, but to Hell with yours. Seems to be right out of the Republican leadership playbook. Wiki tells me she’s an independent though.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2020, 10:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-las-vegas-mayor-carolyn-goodman/852395/25 "2020-04-23T10:10:44Z")

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p.s. **crowmanyclouds** : Plenty of fun videos show up when I do a search for “[whatdoesnotstayinvegas.com](http://whatdoesnotstayinvegas.com)”.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2020, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-las-vegas-mayor-carolyn-goodman/852395/26 "2020-04-23T14:51:58Z")

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> [@madsircool](#):
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> This board does have a misogyny problem. Its not just Siam Sam but also the so-called liberals who have posted here and let it slide.

I agree.

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**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2020, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-las-vegas-mayor-carolyn-goodman/852395/27 "2020-04-23T15:20:37Z")

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> [@madsircool](#):
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> This board does have a misogyny problem. Its not just Siam Sam but also the so-called liberals who have posted here and let it slide.

QFT

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2020, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-las-vegas-mayor-carolyn-goodman/852395/28 "2020-04-23T15:31:52Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> IIRC, all but the extreme northern end of the Strip is outside city limits in the first place, so hopefully her idiocy won’t affect those closures.

Looking at the city limits line on Google Maps, the Stratosphere is the only casino on the Strip within Las Vegas proper.

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2020, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-las-vegas-mayor-carolyn-goodman/852395/29 "2020-04-23T15:39:31Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> What’s especially stupid about this is even if Vegas declared itself fully open for business, no one is going to want to take a vegas vacation in the middle of this pandemic. And no one is going to want to spend money on a vacation in such unsure times financially, either. So we’re looking at, what, 10-20% of the normal utilization rate? So the upside, even if you’re a greedy owner who only cares about money, is pretty low.

This might actually perversely work to the mayor’s benefit, though. She can “open up Vegas for business,” but relatively few clients come, and if having so few people results in few to no new coronavirus infections, she can then say, “See, told you the fear was overblown. We opened up and we’ve seen safe results.”

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**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2020, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-las-vegas-mayor-carolyn-goodman/852395/30 "2020-04-23T15:41:16Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> [CNN posted the interview to their YouTube channel](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APoSHB9pQk8); the comments are excellent.
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> For instance: “Lorne Michaels is going “this is gold” right now. Easily 10 skits of Kate Mckinnon doing this”

I think she looks more like John Goodman.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2020, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-las-vegas-mayor-carolyn-goodman/852395/31 "2020-04-23T15:48:27Z")

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> [@crowmanyclouds](#):
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> The best part,  
> ‘When asked if she would be in casinos to prove their safety Mayor Goodman responded “I don’t gamble anymore.”’
> 
> CMC fnord!

I didn’t get that far before concluding that, just as **Siam Sam** pointed out, she is totes crazypants. Did Anderson Cooper respond with any observation about the kind of gamble she seemed to be advocating?

I also wonder if, like the America-hating fuckstick, she spent any of those twenty-five minutes congratulating herself on her administration’s response.

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**Author:** ![DMC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dmc/32/18049_2.png) [@DMC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMC)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2020, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-las-vegas-mayor-carolyn-goodman/852395/32 "2020-04-23T16:27:15Z")

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> [@madsircool](#):
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> This board does have a misogyny problem. Its not just Siam Sam but also the so-called liberals who have posted here and let it slide.

Says the asshole that implies Hillary is a bitch[.](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19786272)

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**Author:** ![Icarus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/icarus/32/72_2.png) [@Icarus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Icarus)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2020, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-las-vegas-mayor-carolyn-goodman/852395/33 "2020-04-23T16:30:17Z")

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It is my fondest wish that, if the last couple of years have taught us nothing else, we should expect fundamental competence of our elected leaders, at all levels.

But, as with all of my wishes, I find that I am without a lamp and a genie.

Pity, that.

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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2020, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-las-vegas-mayor-carolyn-goodman/852395/34 "2020-04-23T16:30:34Z")

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> [@DMC](#):
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> Says the asshole that implies Hillary is a bitch[.](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19786272)

cite

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2020, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-las-vegas-mayor-carolyn-goodman/852395/35 "2020-04-23T16:33:21Z")

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Y’know, I’m on record as saying that the lockdowns have been taken further than is wise, and will end up causing more trouble than they solve… but first of all, we’re talking about casinos here, not schools or any sort of productive business, and second, if she wants the businesses to have a plan for how to stay safe, well, she’s the mayor. Coming up with plans is kind of her job.

That said, surely some of the blame lies with the people of Las Vegas for electing an incompetent mob-proxy.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2020, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-las-vegas-mayor-carolyn-goodman/852395/36 "2020-04-23T16:33:25Z")

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Y’know, I’m on record as saying that the lockdowns have been taken further than is wise, and will end up causing more trouble than they solve… but first of all, we’re talking about casinos here, not schools or any sort of productive business, and second, if she wants the businesses to have a plan for how to stay safe, well, she’s the mayor. Coming up with plans is kind of her job.

That said, surely some of the blame lies with the people of Las Vegas for electing an incompetent mob-proxy.

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**Author:** ![Icarus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/icarus/32/72_2.png) [@Icarus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Icarus)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2020, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-las-vegas-mayor-carolyn-goodman/852395/37 "2020-04-23T16:37:32Z")

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> [@madsircool](#):
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> cite

Click on the “.” at the end of the sentence.

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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2020, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-las-vegas-mayor-carolyn-goodman/852395/38 "2020-04-23T16:43:08Z")

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> [@Icarus](#):
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> Click on the “.” at the end of the sentence.

Ahh a joke post from 2016. Gotcha.

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**Author:** ![Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mean_mr.mustard/32/3865_2.png) [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mean_Mr.Mustard)\
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> [@madsircool](#):
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> This board does have a misogyny problem. Its not just Siam Sam but also the so-called liberals who have posted here and let it slide.

Are we not allowed to hate on her because she is a woman?

Or is it **Sam** ’s choice of epithet that is troublesome?

If the latter, may we call her a dick or a bastard instead? Would that still be misogynistic?  
mmm

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**Post date:** [April 23, 2020, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-las-vegas-mayor-carolyn-goodman/852395/40 "2020-04-23T17:26:12Z")

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She wanted to reopen the casinos, the hotels, the restaurants, the shows and all the small businesses - so that hundreds of thousands of visitors would come (and then return home all over the US and the rest of the World.) 😕

So we’re all thinking - that would lead to a massive spread of the virus. :smack:

And her reply to that was:

- the casinos are very clean (of course that won’t stop the spread of the virus)
- we need the money (ah, the Trump way of behaving :eek:)
- everyone can stay six feet apart at all times

When asked how hundreds of thousands of visitors would all stay six feet apart, she confidently said “I don’t know. That’s up to the casinos.”

Words fail me.

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