# Fuck You, Las Vegas Mayor Carolyn Goodman

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-las-vegas-mayor-carolyn-goodman/852395>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 23, 2020, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-las-vegas-mayor-carolyn-goodman/852395 "2020-04-23T02:11:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2020, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-las-vegas-mayor-carolyn-goodman/852395/41 "2020-04-23T17:29:57Z")

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> [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](#):
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> Are we not allowed to hate on her because she is a woman?
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> Or is it **Sam** ’s choice of epithet that is troublesome?
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> If the latter, may we call her a dick or a bastard instead? Would that still be misogynistic?  
> mmm

Hating her politics and actions is fine. Using sexist epithets isnt. We all know that in the last couple of years that the use of these words has become frowned upon. If you wanted to criticize Trumps surgeon general would anyone call him the N word? It also makes the user of these buzzwords look like a bigot.

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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2020, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-las-vegas-mayor-carolyn-goodman/852395/42 "2020-04-23T17:44:58Z")

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> [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](#):
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> Are we not allowed to hate on her because she is a woman?
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> Or is it **Sam** ’s choice of epithet that is troublesome?
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> If the latter, may we call her a dick or a bastard instead? Would that still be misogynistic?  
> mmm

[https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=22265478&postcount=2636](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=22265478&postcount=2636)

Even Colibri called him out for using misogynistic language. So its not like I am randomly calling him out.

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**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2020, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-las-vegas-mayor-carolyn-goodman/852395/43 "2020-04-23T17:46:49Z")

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She seems just as stupid as any man ever born. QFT.

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**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2020, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-las-vegas-mayor-carolyn-goodman/852395/44 "2020-04-23T17:51:15Z")

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> [@madsircool](#):
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> [https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=22265478&postcount=2636](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=22265478&postcount=2636)
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> Even Colibri called him out for using misogynistic language. So its not like I am randomly calling him out.

I nominate you to be the official Censor Bitch of the Pit.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2020, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-las-vegas-mayor-carolyn-goodman/852395/45 "2020-04-23T17:52:07Z")

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Rather appropriate that someone like that should be the mayor during a pandemic, since in _The Stand_ all the evil people swarmed to Vegas.😃

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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2020, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-las-vegas-mayor-carolyn-goodman/852395/46 "2020-04-23T17:53:26Z")

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> [@BlankSlate](#):
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> I nominate you to be the official Censor Bitch of the Pit.

Nomination accepted. Get your bribes ready unless you want to be banned.

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**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2020, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-las-vegas-mayor-carolyn-goodman/852395/47 "2020-04-23T18:17:40Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> Rather appropriate that someone like that should be the mayor during a pandemic, since in _The Stand_ all the evil people swarmed to Vegas.😃

That mayor is so ignorant that it is hard to watch more than three straight minutes of her ridiculous babble without saying “Fuck You!” to the computer screen. She is obviously just a brainless figure head… no better than a Tammany Boss (or a corrupt Mob Boss) from back in the day. Not one word of her opinion contains value… not one point that she tries to swing us back to has merit.

I trust her opinion about as much as I would trust Sam ‘Ace’ Rothstein, and if you want to read between the lines to say that I am implying that she wants thousands of additional people to die just so she can appease her “Fuck You, Pay Me” Mob boss masters, well that’s just fine.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2020, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-las-vegas-mayor-carolyn-goodman/852395/48 "2020-04-23T18:33:23Z")

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> [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](#):
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> That mayor is so ignorant that it is hard to watch more than three straight minutes of her ridiculous babble without saying “Fuck You!” to the computer screen. She is obviously just a brainless figure head… no better than a Tammany Boss (or a corrupt Mob Boss) from back in the day. Not one word of her opinion contains value… not one point that she tries to swing us back to has merit.

Sounds like [Randall Flagg](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randall_Flagg) would be an improvement.

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2020, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-las-vegas-mayor-carolyn-goodman/852395/49 "2020-04-23T18:38:28Z")

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**Siam Sam** did use ugly words, but that doesn’t mean they aren’t realistic. I’m female, Democratic, fairly liberal, and I agreed with him. It’s kind of like the old statement "_just because you are paranoid doesn’t mean they aren’t out to get you."_

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**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2020, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-las-vegas-mayor-carolyn-goodman/852395/50 "2020-04-23T18:46:18Z")

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> [@glee](#):
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> When asked how hundreds of thousands of visitors would all stay six feet apart, she confidently said “I don’t know. That’s up to the casinos.”

That’s easy enough. Mandatory dress code of 8’ wide hoopskirts.

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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2020, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-las-vegas-mayor-carolyn-goodman/852395/51 "2020-04-23T18:53:39Z")

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> [@Baker](#):
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> **Siam Sam** did use ugly words, but that doesn’t mean they aren’t realistic. I’m female, Democratic, fairly liberal, and I agreed with him. It’s kind of like the old statement "_just because you are paranoid doesn’t mean they aren’t out to get you."_

OK maybe I overreacted. Hijack over and please everyone back to attacking the mayor.

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**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2020, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-las-vegas-mayor-carolyn-goodman/852395/52 "2020-04-23T19:35:03Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> Sounds like [Randall Flagg](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randall_Flagg) would be an improvement.

I’m not wishing for that; that said that’s mayor’s only skill set might be to walk vicious small dogs down the street and blame property owners when it bites someone or poops.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2020, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-las-vegas-mayor-carolyn-goodman/852395/53 "2020-04-23T19:39:47Z")

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Gendering insults is not necessarily a sign of misogyny. We tend to use different words to refer to different genders sometimes. When you call someone a dick, that’s a male 99% of the time. When you call someone an asshole - sometimes women get that, but I’m guessing 95% men. But when you’re looking to refer to a woman in an insulting way, you may use bitch or cunt in the same manner. It doesn’t mean that calling someone a dick or an asshole is misandry, even though 95%+ of those cases are used against men, nor does it constitute misogyny to use bitch or cunt.

Of course those things _can_ be used to indicate misogynistic thoughts, but it’s not inherent in gendering your insults. You can definitely use typically female deragatory words when talking about women and typically male deragotry words when talking about men without it being the result of sexism.

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**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2020, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-las-vegas-mayor-carolyn-goodman/852395/54 "2020-04-23T19:59:57Z")

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Can we all agree on a gender-free insult?

I prefer the term “asshole.”

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**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2020, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-las-vegas-mayor-carolyn-goodman/852395/55 "2020-04-23T20:11:06Z")

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> [@glee](#):
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> When asked how hundreds of thousands of visitors would all stay six feet apart, she confidently said “I don’t know. That’s up to the casinos.”

> [@Projammer](#):
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> That’s easy enough. Mandatory dress code of 8’ wide hoopskirts.

Sure, hoopskirts - but that only works if the men have to wear them, too, along with the women. And anyone of indeterminate/fluid/other gender.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2020, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-las-vegas-mayor-carolyn-goodman/852395/56 "2020-04-23T20:17:10Z")

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> [@Kent\_Clark](#):
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> Can we all agree on a gender-free insult?
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> I prefer the term “asshole.”

I propose a new term which can be used for any incompetent and/or insane politician in office: _trump_. In this case, even though she’s listed as an Independent, we can say, “Mayor Carolyn Goodman is such a trump!”

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2020, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-las-vegas-mayor-carolyn-goodman/852395/57 "2020-04-23T20:22:29Z")

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The head of the hotel and casino workers’ union said they’re more than willing to get back to work, but they aren’t test subjects.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2020, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-las-vegas-mayor-carolyn-goodman/852395/58 "2020-04-23T21:35:48Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> Gendering insults is not necessarily a sign of misogyny. We tend to use different words to refer to different genders sometimes. When you call someone a dick, that’s a male 99% of the time. When you call someone an asshole - sometimes women get that, but I’m guessing 95% men. But when you’re looking to refer to a woman in an insulting way, you may use bitch or cunt in the same manner. It doesn’t mean that calling someone a dick or an asshole is misandry, even though 95%+ of those cases are used against men, nor does it constitute misogyny to use bitch or cunt.
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> Of course those things _can_ be used to indicate misogynistic thoughts, but it’s not inherent in gendering your insults. You can definitely use typically female deragatory words when talking about women and typically male deragotry words when talking about men without it being the result of sexism.

Can we use the same rationale to justify using race-specific epithets? Religion-specific epithets?

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2020, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-las-vegas-mayor-carolyn-goodman/852395/59 "2020-04-23T22:16:39Z")

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> [@madsircool](#):
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> Hating her politics and actions is fine. Using sexist epithets isnt. We all know that in the last couple of years that the use of these words has become frowned upon. If you wanted to criticize Trumps surgeon general would anyone call him the N word? It also makes the user of these buzzwords look like a bigot.

Is calling Mitch McGollum a prick being sexist? Can we call her a stupid cocksucker?

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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2020, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-las-vegas-mayor-carolyn-goodman/852395/60 "2020-04-23T22:30:48Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> Is calling Mitch McGollum a prick being sexist? Can we call her a stupid cocksucker?

Are we 14? Cocksucker offends women and gays.

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