# Fuck you, Ma! (Lame, pointless, disjointed.)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-ma-lame-pointless-disjointed/405252>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 23, 2007, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-ma-lame-pointless-disjointed/405252 "2007-05-23T17:55:16Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 3\
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**Author:** ![fessie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c37758/32.png) [@fessie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fessie)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2007, 12:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-ma-lame-pointless-disjointed/405252/41 "2007-05-29T12:19:49Z")

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[QUOTE=MelCthefirst]  
Doesn’t she have a point? Aren’t you angry with her behaviour? This is deep seated and from way back in time - sounds like she is on the money, regardless of her mental health.  
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Thing is, though, there’s no way to really forgive the past until there’s something different in the present. It seems to me like **Mouse** is trying to move forward and have a respectful, adult relationship with this woman. And her mom is responding by trying to control the boundaries and content of their relationship. Her mom didn’t ask to be forgiven for mistakes - she took **Mouse** to task for ever having been angry in the first place. It’s alllll about mom – there’s nothing in mom’s description of the past that allows that **Mouse** is a genuine human being with a full range of emotions. **Mouse** is just a foil for mom.

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2007, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-ma-lame-pointless-disjointed/405252/42 "2007-05-29T13:19:19Z")

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[QUOTE=Mouse\_Maven]  
[Denis Leary] Life sucks, get a fucking helmet.[/Denis Leary]  
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Is that yet another term for condom, “fucking helmet”? Perhaps the ribbed variety as opposed to a plain “hat”? 😃

A few months back, my mother called me and started talking about something a friend of hers had said that another friend had done and… “Mom?” _yaddayadda_ “MOOOOOM!” _what? Don’t interrupt me!_ “Listen to me and I won’t have to interrupt. And look at the hour. At what time do I go to bed?” _uh? OhmyGod, it’s half past eleven!_ “Right. You just got in from the street, you’re all excited, wonderful talking to you, but if you wake me up during the first sleep again, I want to hear that your parents are dying or your house just burnt down, all right?” _sorry honey! ok if I call tomorrow?_ “yes” _ok! love you! click_

One of the things that drives Mom completely off the wall is when any of Dad’s siblings calls her and leaves a message calling her “parrandera”, something like “hey, you’re always out partying!” - oh I’m sorry for having a life, do you think I must sit on the phone 24/7 waiting for your phone calls? It ain’t hatching! Maybe your mom thinks your phone _will_ hatch! Isn’t that how the **Mouseling** will be born? 😛 😃

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**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2007, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-ma-lame-pointless-disjointed/405252/43 "2007-05-29T13:22:07Z")

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Yeah, mom sounds pretty much like she has a borderline personality disorder, among other things. The OP needs to establish clear, strong boundaries, and defend the hell out of them. The consequences of not doing that are _not_ pretty.

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