# Fuck you MSM. Just fuck you. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 21, 2006, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-msm-just-fuck-you/345519 "2006-02-21T20:07:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2006, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-msm-just-fuck-you/345519/81 "2006-02-23T01:17:33Z")
**eleanorigby** , this thread is an example of just the mildest form of CPC. Check this out:[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=6947278&postcount=79](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=6947278&postcount=79) > [@kanicbird](#): > > As I see it we are fastly becoming a anit-Christian country where the Gov’t enforces bans on Christian symbols and teachings. And we allow and sometimes outright celebrate sins like homosexuality and abortion. We are unquestionably moving away from the Judao-Christian foundlings of our country which has allowed the freest nation on the face of the earth to come about. > > I see this hand and hand in our countries gradual shift more towards socialism, and loss of more rights. I can see the day where this become so overwhelming that Christianity will be eventually directly outlawed just like religion’s are outlawed in communist countries. Christians who don’t give up the faith will be sent to Christian Concentration camps and tortured till they either die or accept the anti-Christian belief. People actually believe this in a country where the majority of folks self-identify as Christian. Where the vast majority of elected leaders make sure the voters know they are Christian. It’s quite astonishing, isn’t it? It shows how easy it is to make people believe they are victims, blowing away even the most common of sense like a handful of sand in a hurricane. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2006, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-msm-just-fuck-you/345519/82 "2006-02-23T02:00:10Z")
> [@Greathouse](#): > > I think it is Christian Persecution Complex Yep. A syndrome which can be seen in its malignant best in the likes of Bill O’Reilly and John Gibson. Yes, **eleanorigby** , it exists. ---
**Author:** ![Taber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ac91a4/32.png) [@Taber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taber)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2006, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-msm-just-fuck-you/345519/83 "2006-02-23T02:05:25Z")
> [@eleanorigby](#): > > you have got to be fucking kidding me. Christians have a Persecution Complex? > didn’t that end when they stopped being fed to the lions? no, that’s just when the persecution ended ---
**Author:** ![KidCharlemagne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed8c4c/32.png) [@KidCharlemagne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KidCharlemagne)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2006, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-msm-just-fuck-you/345519/84 "2006-02-23T02:40:26Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > Me, moron. > > It’s in the fucking _New York Times_ article that i quoted, if you’d bother even to acknowledge evidence that’s placed in front of your stupid face. > > As i said, that article appeared in the hard copy of the _Times_ on Sunday morning. I can only suffer fools so far. You’ve hit my limit. Reread the thread and I’ll help you along if you still don’t get it. ---
**Author:** ![KidCharlemagne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed8c4c/32.png) [@KidCharlemagne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KidCharlemagne)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2006, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-msm-just-fuck-you/345519/85 "2006-02-23T02:45:58Z")
On another note, a Christian feeling persecuted in today’s world is a bit like a Roman legionary feeling uncomfortable in Judea. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2006, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-msm-just-fuck-you/345519/86 "2006-02-23T03:02:11Z")
> [@KidCharlemagne](#): > > I can only suffer fools so far. Then i don’t know how you live with yourself. ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2006, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-msm-just-fuck-you/345519/87 "2006-02-23T03:44:24Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > It comes from the word “new.” > > What **Merijeek** was trying to do, if i read him correctly, is reinforce the notion that, because this particular incident happened on Saturday, and has already been reported, there is no need for it to be on the front page of today’s newspapers and websites. Tada! Sorry I couldn’t help with that. I was on the dock terminal of an oil refinery all day. I’d rather have eaten glass but, well, whattaya gonna do? -Joe, needs paychecks ---
**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2006, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-msm-just-fuck-you/345519/88 "2006-02-23T04:00:05Z")
> [@KidCharlemagne](#): > > On another note, a Christian feeling persecuted in today’s world is a bit like a Roman legionary feeling uncomfortable in Judea. OK-never done this, but here goes: you are batshit insane. This is a very inept and inapt analogy. Or is this comparison to subtley underscore the End times as well? Whichever, whatever, it’s insane. It’s stupid. Anyone who thinks this is stupid. Hell, you’re stupid. I’m Christian (well, alone and in the dark, maybe not)–I live in a fairly diverse middle class to upper middle class suburb: Christians (be they protestants, catholics, evangelicals etc) far outnumber those of jewish, hindu, buddhist or muslim background–the wiccans, atheists and satanists are too few to count. Our schools fucking celebrate Valentine’s Day–the Great Blight hasn’t taken that one away yet. As a parent, I can’t wait for that poor excuse for a holiday to GO. Funnily enough, since we LIVE in a diverse community, it sure is nice for the kids to learn about Hannukah, Kwanzaa, Ramadan, and the Hindu holidays etc. This teaches the kids _tolerance_ which helps eradicate _ignorance_ and _prejudice_. How very fucking Christian of all the religions. :rolleyes: The arrogance of this position! As if Christianity is the only religion out there or worthy of recognition. Christ on a cracker. Persecuted. Do you even know what the word means? What the hell is this movement? Some kind of narcissistic, sack-clothed, public act of emotional masturbation? Get a life–soon. Now would be good. Get some perspective on life and it’s ills and hurts. Go walk thru a godammed burn unit or pediatric cancer ward to see real suffering. Or better yet-a prison filled with women who have been accused of adultery etc in (pick one) Yemen, Saudi arabia, Afghanistan etc–I am sure you will find true persecution there. Why the hell do some folk find it neccessary to be the goddammed victims in order to have high moral ground? You are making Christianity look assinine–stop it. In Jesus’ name, stop it. You’re supposed to garner strength from your faith–not turn your dammed faith into a bleeding doormat, Mel Cooley patsy. I feel dirty all over. This is just nasty. I don’t even like my church or religion right now, but this makes me ill. Grow a set, walk the walk, ass–stop whining about a clear majority and a culture so prevalent as to be unquestioned even today. ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2006, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-msm-just-fuck-you/345519/89 "2006-02-23T14:08:40Z")
> [@KidCharlemagne](#): > > On another note, a Christian feeling persecuted in today’s world is a bit like a Roman legionary feeling uncomfortable in Judea. How so? The Romans were also paranoics with a delusional view of reality? ---
**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2006, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-msm-just-fuck-you/345519/90 "2006-02-23T14:23:21Z")
Good night’s sleep, cooler heads and all that–and I am stilling shaking my head over this. I knew about the War on Christmas–but figured that was just a ratings based hysteria what with Christmas time being slow news-wise. I never thought that there could be people out there (in America) who thought that Jesus was taking a beating in the polls etc. Maybe these people should talk to a neurologist I know–he’s a Sikh. Let’s talk about how he was treated immediately post 9/11. He was afraid to walk down his own street because of his turban. That’s persecution–and it happens right here in good ole Christian America. I must say that reading this has helped my weight loss program–I am so nauseated by the thought of this nonsense, I’ve lost my appetite completely. ---
**Author:** ![KidCharlemagne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed8c4c/32.png) [@KidCharlemagne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KidCharlemagne)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2006, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-msm-just-fuck-you/345519/91 "2006-02-23T15:13:41Z")
> [@eleanorigby](#): > > OK-never done this, but here goes: you are batshit insane. This is a very inept and inapt analogy. Or is this comparison to subtley underscore the End times as well? Whichever, whatever, it’s insane. It’s stupid. Anyone who thinks this is stupid. Hell, you’re stupid. > > I’m Christian (well, alone and in the dark, maybe not)–I live in a fairly diverse middle class to upper middle class suburb: Christians (be they protestants, catholics, evangelicals etc) far outnumber those of jewish, hindu, buddhist or muslim background–the wiccans, atheists and satanists are too few to count. Our schools fucking celebrate Valentine’s Day–the Great Blight hasn’t taken that one away yet. As a parent, I can’t wait for that poor excuse for a holiday to GO. Funnily enough, since we LIVE in a diverse community, it sure is nice for the kids to learn about Hannukah, Kwanzaa, Ramadan, and the Hindu holidays etc. This teaches the kids _tolerance_ which helps eradicate _ignorance_ and _prejudice_. How very fucking Christian of all the religions. :rolleyes: The arrogance of this position! As if Christianity is the only religion out there or worthy of recognition. Christ on a cracker. > > Persecuted. Do you even know what the word means? What the hell is this movement? Some kind of narcissistic, sack-clothed, public act of emotional masturbation? > > Get a life–soon. Now would be good. Get some perspective on life and it’s ills and hurts. Go walk thru a godammed burn unit or pediatric cancer ward to see real suffering. Or better yet-a prison filled with women who have been accused of adultery etc in (pick one) Yemen, Saudi arabia, Afghanistan etc–I am sure you will find true persecution there. > Why the hell do some folk find it neccessary to be the goddammed victims in order to have high moral ground? You are making Christianity look assinine–stop it. In Jesus’ name, stop it. You’re supposed to garner strength from your faith–not turn your dammed faith into a bleeding doormat, Mel Cooley patsy. > > I feel dirty all over. This is just nasty. I don’t even like my church or religion right now, but this makes me ill. Grow a set, walk the walk, ass–stop whining about a clear majority and a culture so prevalent as to be unquestioned even today. Ummmmmmm, I think you picked the wrong target for your tirade. Frankly, having read your post a second time I’m still not exactly sure of your position, but in any case, my likening feelings of current Christians to Roman soldiers was meant to imply (perhaps poorly), that they were the ones setting the rules and that if anything, the Judeans (other religions) had the right to complain. Hell, I’m an atheist. ---
**Author:** ![KidCharlemagne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed8c4c/32.png) [@KidCharlemagne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KidCharlemagne)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2006, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-msm-just-fuck-you/345519/92 "2006-02-23T15:18:11Z")
> [@Revtim](#): > > How so? The Romans were also paranoics with a delusional view of reality? I guess my metaphor really sucked. As I just said to Eleanor, I meant to imply that current Christians, like Romans in Judea, didn’t really deserve much pity. ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2006, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-msm-just-fuck-you/345519/93 "2006-02-23T15:42:24Z")
I guess I misunderstood, **KidCharlemagne** , my apologies. ---
**Author:** ![flight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bbce88/32.png) [@flight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flight)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2006, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-msm-just-fuck-you/345519/94 "2006-02-23T17:33:17Z")
Update on what I am hearing in the news. So, I have been paying careful attention to NPR for how stories on cartoon riots are presented in the last two days and it has come up… nada. Big things exploding in Iraq have taken over. This would suggest to me that the previous thoughts that the reason the Christian on Muslim violence had taken over the Muslim on Christian was because of its newness, as this current story trumps both, but we still have that nagging question about how they were presented. I guess we just have to wait until the next big Muslim lynching Christian event happens and see what the headlines say. If it doesn’t happen soon though, which it might not as Muslims are currently busy blowing up other Muslims, we will be back to square one. In my humble opinion you’re all nuts. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2006, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-msm-just-fuck-you/345519/95 "2006-02-23T17:50:11Z")
> [@KidCharlemagne](#): > > I guess my metaphor really sucked. It was a simile. And you’re right that it sucked. like your whole “argument” in this thread. ---
**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2006, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-msm-just-fuck-you/345519/96 "2006-02-23T17:54:45Z")
> [@KidCharlemagne](#): > > I guess my metaphor really sucked. As I just said to Eleanor, I meant to imply that current Christians, like Romans in Judea, didn’t really deserve much pity. oops. [Emily Latella] Never mind[/EL] Dayum-I wasted all that vitriol. \ ---
**Author:** ![flight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bbce88/32.png) [@flight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flight)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2006, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-msm-just-fuck-you/345519/97 "2006-02-24T17:08:09Z")
Well, my idea of seeing how they title things in the future seems to have been irrelevant. It looks like any article written now is going to include violence both ways since both Muslims and Christians seem to be getting into their riot groove. To partially explain this idicoy, it seems that everywhere the riots break out the cartoons were merely an excuse to riot about other things. ---
**Author:** ![HeelB4Zod](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e19adc/32.png) [@HeelB4Zod](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HeelB4Zod)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2006, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-msm-just-fuck-you/345519/98 "2006-02-25T01:07:51Z")
> [@eleanorigby](#): > > Maybe these people should talk to a neurologist I know–he’s a Sikh. Let’s talk about how he was treated immediately post 9/11. He was afraid to walk down his own street because of his turban. > > That’s persecution–and it happens right here in good ole Christian America. Unless your neurologist friend was actually persecuted, it’s not persecution. Or did I miss something, too? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-msm-just-fuck-you/345519.md?page=4)