# Fuck you NBC... It's the US Open, you morons! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 17, 2004, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-nbc-its-the-us-open-you-morons/250905 "2004-06-17T19:16:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2004, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-nbc-its-the-us-open-you-morons/250905/1 "2004-06-17T19:16:54Z")
NBC, in their infinite wisdom, is not boradcasting the US open in HDTV. WTF??? There is simply no comparison between watching golf in HD vs watching it in SD. So, I have my TV on hoping for a nice afternoon of a little work, a little SDMB, and a \*\*lot \*\* of the US Open in the background. But it’s not broadcast in HD! You fuckers at NBC better be planning for HD over the weekend. Every other tournament so far this year (CBS or ABC) has been in HD on the weekend. Even the ones hardly anyone watches. So, get with the freakin’ program and get that HD out to Shinnecock this weekend. ---
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2004, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-nbc-its-the-us-open-you-morons/250905/2 "2004-06-17T19:25:39Z")
This cracks me ENTIRELY up. When I started seeing sporting events advertised as being broadcast in HDTV, I nearly sprained my head with the violence of my eyeroll. My grandfather still listens to baseball games on the radio; he prefers it to television. What the hell do you need to see that it makes any difference AT ALL whether it’s in HD or not? Unless I’m being whooshed . . . ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2004, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-nbc-its-the-us-open-you-morons/250905/3 "2004-06-17T19:37:51Z")
> [@lissener](#): > > What the hell do you need to see that it makes any difference AT ALL whether it’s in HD or not? What does it matter? Things look better in HD. That you and your grandfather are neo-Luddites doesn’t mean that the rest of us can’t enjoy it. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2004, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-nbc-its-the-us-open-you-morons/250905/4 "2004-06-17T19:40:03Z")
> [@lissener](#): > > What the hell do you need to see that it makes any difference AT ALL whether it’s in HD or not? > > Unless I’m being whooshed . . . Why the hell go see a movie in a theater, when you can rent it and watch it on your 10" B&W TV set? If you’re not a sports fan, you won’t understand this. If you are, and you’ve ever seen a sporting event in HD, it’s just oh so much more like being there. For golf: 1. Just having it in widescreen makes a big difference. You see more. 2. A lot of what makes golf hard is playing the undulations (in the fairways as well as on the greens). In a SD broadcast, you can’t really see the undulation. In HD, they’re much more visible. 3. Another aspect of golf that makes it hard is the difficulty of the lie you might have if the ball isn’t in the fairway. In HD, you can see just how tough a shot out of the rough will be, or just how burried a ball is in a bunker. 4. HD also means surround sound-- again, more like actually being there. If you’re not a fan, no, it won’t make any difference at all. But if you really want to get a true sense of just how nasty that wart/mole is on Vijay’s foreheard, you gotta have HD! ---
**Author:** ![NicePete](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ee7513/32.png) [@NicePete](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NicePete)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2004, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-nbc-its-the-us-open-you-morons/250905/5 "2004-06-17T19:44:51Z")
Golf on TV? Don’t get me wrong, I love golf, but why not just wash down a few valium with a shot of vodka and avoid the middleman. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2004, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-nbc-its-the-us-open-you-morons/250905/6 "2004-06-17T19:52:06Z")
> [@AugestWest](#): > > Golf on TV? > > Don’t get me wrong, I love golf, but why not just wash down a few valium with a shot of vodka and avoid the middleman. You may enjoy golf, but you clearly don’t \*\*LOVE \*\* golf. No, you are not a golf lover, my friend. Sorry. We’re a rare breed, and you just don’t qualify. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2004, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-nbc-its-the-us-open-you-morons/250905/7 "2004-06-17T19:56:44Z")
Obviously, you’re not going to get the full majesty of Shinnecock if it isn’t in HDTV. ---
**Author:** ![BF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b5ac83/32.png) [@BF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BF)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2004, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-nbc-its-the-us-open-you-morons/250905/8 "2004-06-17T19:57:12Z")
Sorry you’ve got to hang with the hoi polloi and watch it in SD **John Mace** , but I’m just glad I’m at work and couldn’t watch that train wreck of a round by Duval. eeeef… ---
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2004, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-nbc-its-the-us-open-you-morons/250905/9 "2004-06-17T20:10:33Z")
> [@John Mace](#): > > Why the hell go see a movie in a theater, when you can rent it and watch it on your 10" B&W TV set? > > If you’re not a sports fan, you won’t understand this. If you are, and you’ve ever seen a sporting event in HD, it’s just oh so much more like being there. For golf: > > 1. Just having it in widescreen makes a big difference. You see more. > > 2. A lot of what makes golf hard is playing the undulations (in the fairways as well as on the greens). In a SD broadcast, you can’t really see the undulation. In HD, they’re much more visible. > > 3. Another aspect of golf that makes it hard is the difficulty of the lie you might have if the ball isn’t in the fairway. In HD, you can see just how tough a shot out of the rough will be, or just how burried a ball is in a bunker. > > 4. HD also means surround sound-- again, more like actually being there. > > If you’re not a fan, no, it won’t make any difference at all. But if you really want to get a true sense of just how nasty that wart/mole is on Vijay’s foreheard, you gotta have HD! Thank you for the specifics; these are exactly the gaps in my knowledge that left me feeling whooshed. But to answer your first question, to me–a non-fan–the difference in seeing a movie, or a reproduction of a painting, in the highest definition possible, is that the movie and the painting are art: more style, emotion, etc.; not just information. A sports event, to my outsider eyes, is nothing more than simple narrative information. YM obviously Vs. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2004, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-nbc-its-the-us-open-you-morons/250905/10 "2004-06-17T20:10:40Z")
> [@BF](#): > > I’m just glad I’m at work and couldn’t watch that train wreck of a round by Duval. eeeef… Mercifully, you don’t get much air time when you’re 10 over par… Unmercifully, you do actually get \*\*some \*\* when you’re David Duval. But how about Pappa and Son Haas? Dad has to be thrilled and proud at the same time! ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2004, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-nbc-its-the-us-open-you-morons/250905/11 "2004-06-17T20:18:20Z")
> [@lissener](#): > > What the hell do you need to see that it makes any difference AT ALL whether it’s in HD or not? umm… the ball, maybe? So, is people whining about stuff not being broadcast in HDTV going to be the same thing as all those people who whined about videotapes not being available in Betamax format (“It’s a better system, dammit! I paid good money for this system! The guy that invented it invented VHS first, then he made this one, so it’s better! Waaah!”)? ---
**Author:** ![BF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b5ac83/32.png) [@BF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BF)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2004, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-nbc-its-the-us-open-you-morons/250905/12 "2004-06-17T20:22:39Z")
> [@John Mace](#): > > But how about Pappa and Son Haas? Dad has to be thrilled and proud at the same time! Definitely!! I’ll be curious to see when’s the last time a father/son made the cut in the US Open. Off to watch on ESPN… ---
**Author:** ![Yeticus\_Rex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a698b9/32.png) [@Yeticus\_Rex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yeticus_Rex)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2004, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-nbc-its-the-us-open-you-morons/250905/13 "2004-06-17T21:15:32Z")
> [@John Mace](#): > > You may enjoy golf, but you clearly don’t \*\*LOVE \*\* golf. No, you are not a golf lover, my friend. Sorry. We’re a rare breed, and you just don’t qualify. 🙂 Golf and Hockey Lover here, and HDTV does wonders for both sports. I’d rather be playing golf and watching the hockey live, but watching either sport on HDTV is a must. It seems to me that NBC has been dropping the ball on alot of the sports coverage lately… ---
**Author:** ![Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapioca_Dextrin)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2004, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-nbc-its-the-us-open-you-morons/250905/14 "2004-06-17T21:48:03Z")
> [@AugestWest](#): > > Golf on TV? > > Don’t get me wrong, I love golf, but why not just wash down a few valium with a shot of vodka and avoid the middleman. Sure beats darts on the radio. There are things about England that I don’t miss. ---
**Author:** ![Bear\_Nenno](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bear_nenno/32/3358_2.png) [@Bear\_Nenno](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bear_Nenno)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2004, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-nbc-its-the-us-open-you-morons/250905/15 "2004-06-17T22:51:38Z")
> [@](#): > > If you’re not a sports fan, you won’t understand this. If you are, and you’ve ever seen a sporting event in HD, it’s just oh so much more like being there. Yeah… but the OP is talking about _golf_. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2004, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-nbc-its-the-us-open-you-morons/250905/16 "2004-06-17T23:05:26Z")
\*\*John Mace \*\* I’m with you 100%. I can’t stand NBC Sports. They always seem to find a way to make anything much less enjoyable. At the halfway mark of the NASCAR season I mute the sound and listen to the PRN broadcast on radio.