# Fuck you Pakistan. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 27, 2010, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-pakistan/555285 "2010-09-27T23:18:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![NurseCarmen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5daacb/32.png) [@NurseCarmen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NurseCarmen)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2010, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-pakistan/555285/1 "2010-09-27T23:18:21Z")
You’re all up in arms because the NATO forces followed some scumbags and killed them, it’s just so happens the scumbags were followed from Afghanistan and in to Pakistan. If maybe you showed some interest in keeping your border secure, I might see your point. But you don’t seem to be interested in doing that. If you insist on ignoring armed people from going back and forth along you border, why are you so angry that a different side in the conflict has crossed your border? ---
**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2010, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-pakistan/555285/2 "2010-09-27T23:22:31Z")
But. . .I don’t want to fuck my Pakistan. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Blake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a9a28c/32.png) [@Blake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blake)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2010, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-pakistan/555285/3 "2010-09-27T23:30:54Z")
> [@NurseCarmen](#): > > If you insist on ignoring armed people from going back and forth along you border, why are you so angry that a different side in the conflict has crossed your border? Of course. Because the US would have the same reaction to a unit of Canadian troops crossing the border form Canada as they would to a unit of Chinese troops crossing the border from Mexico. Right? Right? ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2010, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-pakistan/555285/4 "2010-09-27T23:32:21Z")
What good are international borders if they can be violated unilaterally? That being said, I wouldn’t be surprised if we have an agreement with the Pakistani government that they let us do this as long as they get to denounce it in public. ---
**Author:** ![NurseCarmen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5daacb/32.png) [@NurseCarmen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NurseCarmen)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2010, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-pakistan/555285/5 "2010-09-27T23:43:46Z")
> [@Blake](#): > > > [@NurseCarmen](#): > > > > If you insist on ignoring armed people from going back and forth along you border, why are you so angry that a different side in the conflict has crossed your border? > > Of course. Because the US would have the same reaction to a unit of Canadian troops crossing the border form Canada as they would to a unit of Chinese troops crossing the border from Mexico. Right? > > Right? You suck at analogies. Maybe if a bunch of nutcases were in the US and kept sneaking in to Mexico, killing people and wreaking havoc, and the US continually denounced the nutbags, but never did anything to stop them, I could see your analogy. But you didn’t do that = You suck at analogies. Q.E.D. ---
**Author:** ![Blake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a9a28c/32.png) [@Blake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blake)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2010, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-pakistan/555285/6 "2010-09-27T23:48:36Z")
> [@NurseCarmen](#): > > You suck at analogies. Maybe if a bunch of nutcases were in the US and kept sneaking in to Mexico, killing people and wreaking havoc, and the US continually denounced the nutbags, but never did anything to stop them, I could see your analogy. But you didn’t do that = You suck at analogies. Q.E.D. Yes, because an analogy that perfectly demonstrates that the US has different reactions to border violations depending on whether the violator is a friendly neighbor or a distant state of dubious relationship clearly fails to show that the US has different reactions to border violations depending on whether the violator is a friendly neighbor or a distant state of dubious relationship. Yep, I sure suck at analogies. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2010, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-pakistan/555285/7 "2010-09-27T23:54:26Z")
> [@Blake](#): > > Yep, I sure suck at analogies. :rolleyes: I feel if you fucked your Pakistan, you’d feel differently. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2010, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-pakistan/555285/8 "2010-09-27T23:57:16Z")
[Link](http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/28/world/asia/28pstan.html?_r=1&ref=world) for anyone interested. > [@](#): > > NATO forces in Afghanistan launched two airstrikes against Taliban insurgents on the Pakistani side of the border, killing more than 30 people, military spokesmen confirmed on Monday. > > \ > > Pakistan was reported on Monday to have criticized the strikes, denying American assertions that the United States has an agreement with Pakistan authorizing so-called “hot pursuit” raids a few miles across the border. In a press statement, the Pakistan Foreign Ministry said the mandate of NATO forces in Afghanistan did not extend beyond the border Your welcome, **NC**. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-pakistan/555285/9 "2010-09-28T00:02:45Z")
I accidentally my Pakistan. ---
**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-pakistan/555285/10 "2010-09-28T00:09:19Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > That being said, I wouldn’t be surprised if we have an agreement with the Pakistani government that they let us do this as long as they get to denounce it in public. We do. It’s been going on for nearly a decade and Pakistan never does anything but piss and moan. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-pakistan/555285/11 "2010-09-28T00:13:11Z")
> [@friedo](#): > > > [@John\_Mace](#): > > > > That being said, I wouldn’t be surprised if we have an agreement with the Pakistani government that they let us do this as long as they get to denounce it in public. > > We do. It’s been going on for nearly a decade and Pakistan never does anything but piss and moan. Well, we also give them a shitload of $$, so that might be an explanation, too. ---
**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-pakistan/555285/12 "2010-09-28T00:43:04Z")
Repubs get made fun of for caring obsessively about the Mexican border, but at least that’s on the same side of the planet. ---
**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-pakistan/555285/13 "2010-09-28T00:49:45Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > What good are international borders if they can be violated unilaterally? > > That being said, I wouldn’t be surprised if we have an agreement with the Pakistani government that they let us do this as long as they get to denounce it in public. I am inclined to agree with John here. The Pakistani government is a strong US ally on most relevant issues, and is backed by the major populous areas. However, they have a large minority of Taliban supporters, particularly in NWFP, and are compelled to at least pay lip service to their POV. I’d say it’s very likely that, like Capt. Renault, Islamabad is shocked – _shocked!_ – to find Taliban support going on there, and the U.S. knows full well how to take their pro forma protest, with the diplomats playing out their public roles while the military gets the job done. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-pakistan/555285/14 "2010-09-28T01:02:31Z")
> [@Ludovic](#): > > I accidentally my Pakistan. Lost? Ate? Fellated? ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-pakistan/555285/15 "2010-09-28T01:12:42Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > That being said, I wouldn’t be surprised if we have an agreement with the Pakistani government that they let us do this as long as they get to denounce it in public. Bingo. It’s a diplomatic game, and all the players know their parts. ---
**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-pakistan/555285/16 "2010-09-28T01:21:20Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > > [@Ludovic](#): > > > > I accidentally my Pakistan. > > Lost? Ate? Fellated? All of the above. ---
**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-pakistan/555285/17 "2010-09-28T01:29:41Z")
> [@Death\_of\_Rats](#): > > > [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > > > Lost? Ate? Fellated? > > All of the above. I don’t see why they’re so mad then. I mean, the last two sound alright by me. ---
**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-pakistan/555285/18 "2010-09-28T01:38:58Z")
> [@NurseCarmen](#): > > > [@Blake](#): > > > > Of course. Because the US would have the same reaction to a unit of Canadian troops crossing the border form Canada as they would to a unit of Chinese troops crossing the border from Mexico. Right? > > > > Right? > > You suck at analogies. Maybe if a bunch of nutcases were in the US and kept sneaking in to Mexico, killing people and wreaking havoc, and the US continually denounced the nutbags, but never did anything to stop them, I could see your analogy. But you didn’t do that = You suck at analogies. Q.E.D. Pakistan does nothing to stop them? Certainly one can argue they could do more, but they’ve rounded up several high ranking Taliban members and turned them over to the US, killed many more and launched several major military offenses against them. One last year saw the Pakistani military sustain something like 800 casualties. ---
**Author:** ![Blake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a9a28c/32.png) [@Blake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blake)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-pakistan/555285/19 "2010-09-28T02:02:22Z")
> [@DiosaBellissima](#): > > I feel if you fucked your Pakistan, you’d feel differently. What if it was my Afghan? ---
**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-pakistan/555285/20 "2010-09-28T02:04:48Z")
> [@Blake](#): > > > [@DiosaBellissima](#): > > > > I feel if you fucked your Pakistan, you’d feel differently. > > What if it was my Afghan? Only if it’s the kind you can put in the washer- otherwise those stains are just too hard to get out by hand. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-pakistan/555285.md?page=2)