# Fuck you Pakistan. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 27, 2010, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-pakistan/555285 "2010-09-27T23:18:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-pakistan/555285/21 "2010-09-28T02:11:03Z")
It’s also worth noting, for the parochial amongst us, that the U.S. borders with Canada and Mexico have been effectively settled for over 150 years and there are _still_ minor disputes about them. The border between Pakistan and Afghanistan is no more than a dotted line left behind by the the British Empire. ---
**Author:** ![Blake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a9a28c/32.png) [@Blake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blake)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-pakistan/555285/22 "2010-09-28T02:31:36Z")
> [@DiosaBellissima](#): > > > [@Blake](#): > > > > What if it was my Afghan? > > Only if it’s the kind you can put in the washer- otherwise those stains are just too hard to get out by hand. What if it was [this sort of Afghan](http://www.pups4sale.com.au/acewin_kennels/afghan_hound_06a.jpg)? Can I put that in the washer. ---
**Author:** ![pikey\_pete](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pikey\_pete](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pikey_pete)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-pakistan/555285/23 "2010-09-28T02:57:41Z")
Pakistan should just be glad that we don’t get old school and pull a page from 1970. Remember, Sihanouk was our ally. ---
**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-pakistan/555285/24 "2010-09-28T03:03:00Z")
> [@Blake](#): > > > [@DiosaBellissima](#): > > > > Only if it’s the kind you can put in the washer- otherwise those stains are just too hard to get out by hand. > > What if it was [this sort of Afghan](http://www.pups4sale.com.au/acewin_kennels/afghan_hound_06a.jpg)? Can I put that in the washer. You sick fuck. ---
**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-pakistan/555285/25 "2010-09-28T03:51:34Z")
> [@Blake](#): > > > [@DiosaBellissima](#): > > > > Only if it’s the kind you can put in the washer- otherwise those stains are just too hard to get out by hand. > > What if it was [this sort of Afghan](http://www.pups4sale.com.au/acewin_kennels/afghan_hound_06a.jpg)? Can I put that in the washer. I had one of those! But it was too small for me so I threw it away. ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Nader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Darth\_Nader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Nader)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-pakistan/555285/26 "2010-09-28T04:21:32Z")
By hand is the best way to stain one of those, actually. Try unsweetened purple kool-aid powder in warm water. Wear gloves, though. Without seeing pics of **Diossa** ’s Pakistan, I can comment no further. ---
**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-pakistan/555285/27 "2010-09-28T04:28:54Z")
> [@Darth\_Nader](#): > > Without seeing pics of **Diossa** ’s Pakistan, I can comment no further. I can’t go showing people on the internet my Pakistan. Shit, it’s awkward enough that everyone’s already seen my Waziristan. ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Nader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Darth\_Nader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Nader)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-pakistan/555285/28 "2010-09-28T04:39:17Z")
Was that the left one or the right one? ---
**Author:** ![Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/face_intentionally_left_blank/32/288_2.png) [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Face_Intentionally_Left_Blank)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-pakistan/555285/29 "2010-09-28T05:33:25Z")
Aren’t these some of the same ppl that cause trouble for Pakistan? I agree with those upthread - Pakistan looks the other way, but has to throw a fit if someone catches NATO at this. They don’t want anyone thinking they’re complicit in it, for fear the riots and/or assassination attempts will commence. ---
**Author:** ![Camus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ba8739/32.png) [@Camus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Camus)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 8:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-pakistan/555285/30 "2010-09-28T08:41:56Z")
> [@Simplicio](#): > > Pakistan does nothing to stop them? Certainly one can argue they could do more, but they’ve rounded up several high ranking Taliban members and turned them over to the US, killed many more and launched several major military offenses against them. One last year saw the Pakistani military sustain something like 800 casualties. Pakistan has been playing both sides off the middle since the very beginning. They give only so much cooperation to maintain their publicly hated but privately prized alliance with the US but at the same time ensure that the Afghan Taliban are kept as a viable military and political force in the Afghanistan scene so that Pakistan has leverage over any future peace deal/unity government. That’s why the Pakistani Army only goes after the Pakistani Taliban (whose very existence is poetic justice blowback from their strategy) and not the Afghan Taliban, as well as why they rounded up several high-level Afghan Taliban leaders and either turned them loose shortly after, with a warning not to conduct peace negotiations without Pakistani involvement, or are refusing to hand them over to the US. And all of these mechinations are designed solely as a paranoid measure against India. However the war in Afghanistan ends, once the US has pulled its forces out, the US should cut all financial, military, and humanitarian aid ties with Pakistan. It’s time that the US backed its more natural ally in the region - India. ---
**Author:** ![Wallenstein](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b5a626/32.png) [@Wallenstein](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wallenstein)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 9:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-pakistan/555285/31 "2010-09-28T09:00:39Z")
> [@Polycarp](#): > > > [@John\_Mace](#): > > > > What good are international borders if they can be violated unilaterally? > > > > That being said, I wouldn’t be surprised if we have an agreement with the Pakistani government that they let us do this as long as they get to denounce it in public. > > I am inclined to agree with John here. The Pakistani government is a strong US ally on most relevant issues, and is backed by the major populous areas. However, they have a large minority of Taliban supporters, particularly in NWFP, and are compelled to at least pay lip service to their POV. I’d say it’s very likely that, like Capt. Renault, Islamabad is shocked – _shocked!_ – to find Taliban support going on there, and the U.S. knows full well how to take their pro forma protest, with the diplomats playing out their public roles while the military gets the job done. The main reason Pakistan has to make a fuss is that if they don’t it sets a very dangerous precedent - i.e. that a nation in “hot pursuit” of bad guys can cross Pakistan’s border - as this will be exploited by India. Although some Pakistanis dislike America, they pretty much all really _really_ dislike India, and they don’t want to give Indian troops even a sniff of an excuse to cross over the border. ---
**Author:** ![thirdname](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d07c76/32.png) [@thirdname](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thirdname)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 9:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-pakistan/555285/32 "2010-09-28T09:12:47Z")
> [@Blake](#): > > What if it was [this sort of Afghan](http://www.pups4sale.com.au/acewin_kennels/afghan_hound_06a.jpg)? Can I put that in the washer. [Yes, you can.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyY6aws_2nQ&feature=related) ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 9:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-pakistan/555285/33 "2010-09-28T09:46:24Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > > [@Ludovic](#): > > > > I accidentally my Pakistan. > > Lost? Ate? Fellated? Burning. ---
**Author:** ![Si\_Amigo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/si_amigo/32/2877_2.png) [@Si\_Amigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Si_Amigo)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-pakistan/555285/34 "2010-09-28T12:09:21Z")
> [@NurseCarmen](#): > > **Fuck You Pakistan** A bit extreme don’t you think? I believe a makeup blowjob would be more in line with thier transgressions against me; it’s not like I’d want to have children with Pakistan after all and I’d really like to just stay friends. ---
**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-pakistan/555285/35 "2010-09-28T13:09:11Z")
Re. border defence in The Hindu Kush: someone really needs to read _The Great Game_. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-pakistan/555285/36 "2010-09-28T14:08:56Z")
> [@Death\_of\_Rats](#): > > > [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > > > Lost? Ate? Fellated? > > All of the above. Not necessarily in that order… ---
**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-pakistan/555285/37 "2010-09-28T16:27:36Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > > [@Death\_of\_Rats](#): > > > > All of the above. > > Not necessarily in that order… Wait. Since when do we let praying mantises post on the board? ---
**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-pakistan/555285/38 "2010-09-28T17:07:50Z")
> [@](#): > > \*\*[President Obama has made the drone strikes the centerpiece of his foreign policy, and has killed well over a thousand people inside Pakistan since taking office.](http://news.antiwar.com/2010/09/27/cia-dramatically-escalating-drone-strikes-against-pakistan/) [The vast majority of those killed have turned out to be innocent civilians, while large numbers of others remain unidentified but classified as “suspects.”](http://news.antiwar.com/2010/01/02/us-killed-700-civilians-in-pakistan-drone-strikes-in-2009/) > > But despite the growing disquiet in Pakistan over the large number of civilians killed, the number of attacks is continuing to escalate beyond all reason, and the US continues to tout it as a “precise” tactic. Despite this, of the 20 attacks this month none has led to a confirmed kill of a high value target, and a number of civilians have been confirmed slain.\*\* Happy happy oh joy! Just how thrilled those “fuckers” should be! :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Si\_Amigo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/si_amigo/32/2877_2.png) [@Si\_Amigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Si_Amigo)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2010, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-pakistan/555285/39 "2010-09-28T18:52:11Z")
> [@RedFury](#): > > > [@](#): > > > > \*\*[President Obama has made the drone strikes the centerpiece of his foreign policy, and has killed well over a thousand people inside Pakistan since taking office.](http://news.antiwar.com/2010/09/27/cia-dramatically-escalating-drone-strikes-against-pakistan/) [The vast majority of those killed have turned out to be innocent civilians, while large numbers of others remain unidentified but classified as “suspects.”](http://news.antiwar.com/2010/01/02/us-killed-700-civilians-in-pakistan-drone-strikes-in-2009/) > > > > But despite the growing disquiet in Pakistan over the large number of civilians killed, the number of attacks is continuing to escalate beyond all reason, and the US continues to tout it as a “precise” tactic. Despite this, of the 20 attacks this month none has led to a confirmed kill of a high value target, and a number of civilians have been confirmed slain.\*\* > > Happy happy oh joy! Just how thrilled those “fuckers” should be! :rolleyes: War is hell; shit happens. Perhaps if they’d contol thier own borders innocents wouldn’t die. And whose word are you taking that they are innocents; the very people harboring and supporting the fighters that are crossing the borders and attacking US troops? They don’t have to be thrilled, just give up the bin Laden and look how fast we will leave. Go ahead and let him become a marytor; oh wait he’s not ready to face Allah yet, better to let some young innocents do that first. ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2010, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-pakistan/555285/40 "2010-09-29T23:02:26Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > > [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > > > Lost? Ate? Fellated? > > Burning. And it was a Pekingese, not a Pakistan. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-pakistan/555285.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-pakistan/555285.md?page=3)