# Fuck you, Pat Tillmans brother **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 25, 2007, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-pat-tillmans-brother/401583 "2007-04-25T14:32:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Wee\_Bairn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/90db22/32.png) [@Wee\_Bairn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wee_Bairn)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2007, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-pat-tillmans-brother/401583/141 "2007-04-26T13:55:57Z")
[QUOTE=kidchameleon] I think we all saw that it was, in fact, Bwian. Oh, and the OP eats stupid food for breakfast. [/QUOTE] Thanks for dropping in and leaving that brilliant gem and nothing more, that does seem to be your m.o. ---
**Author:** ![ralph124c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8797f3/32.png) [@ralph124c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ralph124c)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2007, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-pat-tillmans-brother/401583/142 "2007-04-26T14:08:10Z")
My question concerns the deatils about tillman’s death-I heard that he was pleading for the troops (which were shooting in his direction0 to cease fire, Now, I don’t know if Sgt. baker heard this-but are troops in combat supposed to keep firing until ordered to stop? It strikes me that such a mistake would be doubly tragic, if it was learned that Tillman correctly identified himself, and yet the fire continued. ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2007, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-pat-tillmans-brother/401583/143 "2007-04-26T14:09:08Z")
[QUOTE=ralph124c] My question concerns the deatils about tillman’s death-I heard that he was pleading for the troops (which were shooting in his direction0 to cease fire, Now, I don’t know if Sgt. baker heard this-but are troops in combat supposed to keep firing until ordered to stop? It strikes me that such a mistake would be doubly tragic, if it was learned that Tillman correctly identified himself, and yet the fire continued. [/QUOTE] Seriously, is your shift key broken, or what? -Joe ---
**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2007, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-pat-tillmans-brother/401583/144 "2007-04-26T14:10:43Z")
[QUOTE=Wee Bairn] Thanks for dropping in and leaving that brilliant gem and nothing more, that does seem to be your m.o. [/QUOTE] Would you kindly start a pit thread about that? It needs to be addressed. ---
**Author:** ![Wee\_Bairn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/90db22/32.png) [@Wee\_Bairn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wee_Bairn)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2007, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-pat-tillmans-brother/401583/145 "2007-04-26T14:15:57Z")
[QUOTE=kidchameleon] Would you kindly start a pit thread about that? It needs to be addressed. [/QUOTE] About what, your staying up all night to come up with that King of Queens-esque joke and add nothing of note to the discussion? Or the fact that you seem to do it often? ---
**Author:** ![saoirse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@saoirse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saoirse)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2007, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-pat-tillmans-brother/401583/146 "2007-04-26T15:03:21Z")
[QUOTE=Pochacco] But what if she had your 1955 Fender Stratocaster? Would you let her keep THAT? And what if you found out that she \*\*hadn’t \*\* dumped you but actually it was her twin sister carrying out an elaborate revenge scheme over imaginary childhood wrongs? And what if she wasn’t a girl, but a llama? [/QUOTE] I really wish someone would answer this, for entirely personal reasons. ---
**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2007, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-pat-tillmans-brother/401583/147 "2007-04-26T15:55:07Z")
[QUOTE=Wee Bairn] About what, your staying up all night to come up with that King of Queens-esque joke [/quote] You should be ashamed for associating a doperism with _The King of Queens_. :mad: > [@](#): > > and add nothing of note to the discussion? > > Or the fact that you seem to do it often? Sure. And for my making a big fuss about it. I want a congressional hearing now! ---
**Author:** ![Wee\_Bairn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/90db22/32.png) [@Wee\_Bairn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wee_Bairn)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2007, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-pat-tillmans-brother/401583/148 "2007-04-26T15:57:26Z")
[QUOTE=kidchameleon] You should be ashamed for associating a doperism with _The King of Queens_. [/QUOTE] You’re right, I retract that one- even the worst jokes here are above Kevin James. ---
**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2007, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-pat-tillmans-brother/401583/149 "2007-04-26T16:06:53Z")
[QUOTE=ralph124c] My question concerns the deatils about tillman’s death-I heard that he was pleading for the troops (which were shooting in his direction0 to cease fire, Now, I don’t know if Sgt. baker heard this-but are troops in combat supposed to keep firing until ordered to stop? It strikes me that such a mistake would be doubly tragic, if it was learned that Tillman correctly identified himself, and yet the fire continued. [/QUOTE] My understanding is that the Tillman family believes that the people responsible for killing Pat should be prosecuted for negligent homicide (or similar charge). As for how troops should fire, that, I do believe, is covered by the rules of engagement that they are operating under. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2007, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-pat-tillmans-brother/401583/150 "2007-04-26T17:19:23Z")
I heard the same, **Tuckerfan**. Can’t say I agree, but it should be investigated same as any friendly fire incident. And the Tillman’s deserve an answer regarding why they were lied to and used for the U.S. Army’s PR purposes - they deserve to know who were the decision-makers and how the Army will reprimand them. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-pat-tillmans-brother/401583.md?page=7)