# Fuck You Pedestrians! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 8, 2001, 12:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-pedestrians/92170 "2001-11-08T12:12:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![mjolley](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/90ced4/32.png) [@mjolley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mjolley)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2001, 12:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-pedestrians/92170/1 "2001-11-08T12:12:35Z")
Lets Complete This Little Analogy: CARS \> ROADS = BICYCLES \> \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_ Of course, the answer is SIDEWALKS, but you wouldn’t know it from the complete ass-clowns here. Somehow, shrink-wrapping your batch in neon-colored lycra and taping a reflector to your clenched little biker ass gives you the god-given right to pedel your little way down our fine state and county maintaned road network. “But people on Bicycles aren’t pedestrians!” Fuck you! Does your conveyance have a motor? No? Then you’re a fucking pedestrian, get off the road asshole! Living in the shithole region I do, normally the roads dont even have nice wide shoulders, it’s the white line, the rumble strip, then a ditch of some sort, or maybe a sheer dropoff, that dosen’t deter those bikers though, after all, they’re exercising or helping the enviroment or crushing that artery that supplies blood to their cock with their hard little seats…it’s the linux ego effect here, “I’m doing something the hard way so I’m better than you so YIELD TO ME” Pedeling down that white line, occasionaly swerving into the lane proper, and all the while you and many others are held hostage behind him since there’s a curve every 5 feet so you can’t safely see around them. Held hostage at 10mph…oh wait, we’re going up a fucking hill, better coast down to 5…uh oh, gaining on him, better tap the brakes… OH FOR THE LOVE OF FUCK GET OUT OF MY WAY YOU SICK SON OF A BITCH! The ONLY thing that belongs on the roads are cars. I’m alomst doubting motorcycles too, since they sort of resemble bicycles. They need to build overpasses for pedestrians, no people or bikes or dogs or anything BUT CARS NEED TO BE ON THE ROAD! Every time I see a bike convoy swerving their way up route 53 I just want to jam the accelerator and clip them with the corner of my car or the mirror or something…don’t these assholes have anything better to do? Motorists of the world unite! If we all pledge to try to run one bicyclist off the road a day, we can move on to the power walkers! We can eliminate all pedestrians by the year 2005! Join me, won’t you? ---
**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2001, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-pedestrians/92170/2 "2001-11-08T12:29:31Z")
Where I grew up they would give you a ticket if you rode your bike on the sidewalk. You were supposed to ride in the road; the laws were very clear on that. ---
**Author:** ![Reuben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@Reuben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reuben)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2001, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-pedestrians/92170/3 "2001-11-08T12:32:47Z")
On yer bike. For a start, roads predate the combustion engine by many thousands of years. Just because you have a relatively new-fangled gas-powered engine, doesn’t mean the roads automatically now belong to you and yours alone. Cyclists are cool. I should know because I am one. _We’re_ not ruining the environment, nor is the West’s reliance on Middle Eastern oil our fault. But we have to live with your bloody smog and sundry carcinogous fumes, we have to live with an almighty %age of our tax contributions going to build yet more sodding roads through the little green space left. How much more peaceful and pleasant is the pedestrianised town centre, rather than the town who has been built to accomodate the stench and roar of motorised traffic? I could go on but I can’t be arsed. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2001, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-pedestrians/92170/4 "2001-11-08T12:40:39Z")
This is disturbing on lots of levels. > [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by mjolley \* > Lets Complete This Little Analogy: > CARS \> ROADS = BICYCLES \> \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_ > > Of course, the answer is SIDEWALKS, but you wouldn’t know it from the complete ass-clowns here. Somehow, shrink-wrapping your batch in neon-colored lycra and taping a reflector to your clenched little biker ass gives you the god-given right to pedel your little way down our fine state and county maintaned road network. Actually, in most areas the correct answer is ROADS – bicycles are legally supposed to be ridden on the roads, not the sidewalks. If you want to start a rant on why cyclists don’t seem to be able to obey the Rules of the Road (or join one of the several ones already in existence), fine; but cyclists are supposed to ride in the street. If you don’t like it, get a law passed, but don’t come whining to us. > [@](#): > > “But people on Bicycles aren’t pedestrians!” Fuck you! Does your conveyance have a motor? No? Then you’re a fucking pedestrian, get off the road asshole! You just can’t argue with logic like that. > [@](#): > > Living in the shithole region I do, normally the roads dont even have nice wide shoulders, it’s the white line, the rumble strip, then a ditch of some sort, or maybe a sheer dropoff, So it’s the cyclists’ fault your local infrastructure is crap? > [@](#): > > that dosen’t deter those bikers though, after all, they’re exercising or helping the enviroment or crushing that artery that supplies blood to their cock with their hard little seats…it’s the linux ego effect here, “I’m doing something the hard way so I’m better than you so YIELD TO ME” God forbid something should inconvenience the progress of your overwide penis substitute, O mighty car owner. > [@](#): > > Pedeling down that white line, occasionaly swerving into the lane proper, and all the while you and many others are held hostage behind him since there’s a curve every 5 feet so you can’t safely see around them. Held hostage at 10mph…oh wait, we’re going up a fucking hill, better coast down to 5…uh oh, gaining on him, better tap the brakes… OH FOR THE LOVE OF FUCK GET OUT OF MY WAY YOU SICK SON OF A BITCH! Is there some medication you should be taking right now? > [@](#): > > The ONLY thing that belongs on the roads are cars. I’m alomst doubting motorcycles too, since they sort of resemble bicycles. They need to build overpasses for pedestrians, no people or bikes or dogs or anything BUT CARS NEED TO BE ON THE ROAD! I’m sure the truckers say the same thing about y’all, Gomer. > [@](#): > > Every time I see a bike convoy swerving their way up route 53 I just want to jam the accelerator and clip them with the corner of my car or the mirror or something…don’t these assholes have anything better to do? > > Motorists of the world unite! If we all pledge to try to run one bicyclist off the road a day, we can move on to the power walkers! We can eliminate all pedestrians by the year 2005! Join me, won’t you? \*\* Pardon me while I make a note of that for your upcoming vehicular homicide case… Lessee…irrational, unjustified rant…bad spelling…ignorance of basic information pertinent to rant… I give it a 2.1, and that’s just for the sheer vitriol and frothing at the mouth. Otherwise, a big disappointment. Thanks for playing, and better luck next time. ---
**Author:** ![Zap\_Rowsdower](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/3da27b/32.png) [@Zap\_Rowsdower](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zap_Rowsdower)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2001, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-pedestrians/92170/5 "2001-11-08T12:42:04Z")
Why don’t you go to the library and look up the law so you won’t sound like a TOTAL idiot. It is ILLEGAL in most places to ride a bike on a sidewalk. Bicycles are vehicles, we pay our taxes and have every right to be on the road on not be threatened by car loving assholes. (by the way I do own a car). Sidewalks are too narrow for bikes, pedestrians with kids or pets and the like. So you have to wait a whole couple of seconds to pass, boooFUCKINGhoo. Heaven forbid you have to actually apply the brake and drive considerately. I hope the price of gas skyrockets, so you and others like you have to ride a bike, then drivers like you can run you down like you are nothing. Share the Road!!! ---
**Author:** ![howgoesit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b38774/32.png) [@howgoesit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/howgoesit)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2001, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-pedestrians/92170/6 "2001-11-08T12:42:52Z")
Hail to the OP! I can’t tell you the number of times I have been on Rt 20 in my area (A little curvy assed road) and gotten behind some shmuck on a bicycle who thinks he owns it all. God help if you hit one…Who’s fault would it be? The person in the car of course. “Driving too fast”, or “Not paying attention to the road”. Bullshit. If you come around a curve at 45-50 mph, only to find a person in BLACK spandex on a BLACK bicycle doing 8 mph…WTF do you think is going to happen?!? I have nothing against someone riding a bike, I enjoy it myself. But please, for the love of God, get on a road with shoulders and passing zones. PS- Wear some brighter colors too. ---
**Author:** ![kabbes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e99b99/32.png) [@kabbes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kabbes)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2001, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-pedestrians/92170/7 "2001-11-08T13:25:52Z")
Good fuck. I live in a place entirely populated by little curvy roads and people who like to cycle. I’ve never once had any trouble passing them. I think you need to learn how to drive better. Or perhaps you’d prefer that all those cyclists were in large 4x4s? Then I’m sure your journey would proceed a LOT more smoothly :rolleyes: pan ---
**Author:** ![Briminator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ba9def/32.png) [@Briminator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Briminator)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2001, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-pedestrians/92170/8 "2001-11-08T13:40:53Z")
Well gosh mjolley I guess that we should make you the head of Highways & Transportation. God forbid that anyone should waste a couple of minutes of your time, we all know how improtant it is that you get to your “Lets shove big things up your ass” seminar. Thanks to jr8 I don’t have to rip your OP up. Hey howgoesit howzaboutcha! Despite all rational thought cyclists actually prefer to ride on roads with big wide shoulders. Unfortunatly sometimes it is necessary to travel on a road with no shoulder to get from one nice road to another. Yes we know it is dangerous, we don’t like it, we know that we are pissing off small-minded drivers, but hey cut us a break, we are just trying to go from point A to point B. You will eventually pass us, so take a deep breath calm down and chill out man! PS-most cycling gear is very very almost ugly bright. ---
**Author:** ![RainbowDragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6a8cbe/32.png) [@RainbowDragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RainbowDragon)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2001, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-pedestrians/92170/9 "2001-11-08T13:44:43Z")
When I saw the title, it made be think of the drivers in my city who have no compassion for pedestrians crossing the street. Here I am trying to cross a busy street with the white walk symbol clearly visible and drivers are cussing at me from their cars because I am trying to cross the street. Fuck you! On a couple occasions I have seen pedestrians almost get ran over. They are not part of “the field” asshole, they are human beings just like you and all they want to do is cross a street! Cyclists are almost non-existent here. With open season declared on pedestrians, I believe they have learned to stay away from the busier areas of the city. So all the OP would need to do is make it so people don’t feel safe to cross streets and **that** should solve your cyclist problem. You’ll have a city like mine where cars rule, and pedestrians are targets of ridicule and abuse. Of course if you ever have to leave your car and actually become a pedestrian, or need to cycle to work cause your car is in the shop… You are royally fucked. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2001, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-pedestrians/92170/10 "2001-11-08T13:48:15Z")
You guys are being WAY too generous here. OP rants…okay. OP has ZERO grasp of the law…bad. OP wants people to give up their rights for his convenience…pitiful. I don’t think this one even rates a 1.0 on the rant-O-meter. Just plain pitiful. Me? Just to make the OP happy I’m going to go get one of those way-cool motorized scooters so I can drive around on roads at 3 mph in perfect bliss, knowing that he’ll support me in my motorized glory. ---
**Author:** ![pldennison](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9fc29f/32.png) [@pldennison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pldennison)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2001, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-pedestrians/92170/11 "2001-11-08T13:52:46Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by mjolley \* > \*\*Lets Complete This Little Analogy: > CARS \> ROADS = BICYCLES \> \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_ > > Of course, the answer is SIDEWALKS . . . Does your conveyance have a motor? No? Then you’re a fucking pedestrian, get off the road asshole! . . . The ONLY thing that belongs on the roads are cars. I’m alomst doubting motorcycles too, since they sort of resemble bicycles. They need to build overpasses for pedestrians, no people or bikes or dogs or anything BUT CARS NEED TO BE ON THE ROAD! . . .\*\* I’m giving all takers 25-1 odds that the OP will not be back in to acknowledge his, er, rather egregious errors here. But, in any case, his profile states that he lives in Lousiville, KY. So let’s just see what the state of Kentucky has to say about bicycles, shall we? THe [Kentucky Division of Drivers Licensing](http://www.kytc.state.ky.us/drlic/), under Title 601, Chapter 14 of the Kentucky Administrative Regulations, states under [“Bicycle Safety Standards,”](http://www.lrc.state.ky.us/kar/601/014/020.htm) that: > [@](#): > > Section 9. Operation of Bicycles. A bicycle shall be operated **in the same manner as a motor vehicle except** the following traffic conditions shall apply: > > (1) A bicycle may be operated on the shoulder of a highway; > > (2) If a highway lane is marked for the exclusive use of bicycles, the operator of a bicycle shall use the lane whenever feasible; > > (3) Not more than two (2) bicycles shall be operated abreast in a single highway lane. (20 Ky.R. 1508; Am. 2037; eff. 2-10-94.) So not only are they to operate just like a motor vehicle --meaning on the ROADS, not the sidewalks – they can be ridden on the highway, even riding two abreast. I wonder what the Kentucky Driver’s Manual has to say about bicycles? Let’s take a look! On Page 62 of the [Kentucky Driver’s Manual](http://www.state.ky.us/agencies/ksp/drtest.htm), under the heading “Rules for Bicyclists,” we find the following: > [@](#): > > RULES FOR BICYCLISTS > • Never use Interstate and Parkway systems for cycling. > • Use hand signals to communicate your actions to other vehicles. > • Obey the instructions of official traffic-control signals and signs. Stop at stop signs and for stop lights just like a motor vehicle. > • Operate a bicycle within posted speed limits or at a rate reasonable for existing conditions. > • Ride a bicycle on the right side of the road with traffic. > • Yield to pedestrians in crosswalks and on sidewalks. Give an audible warning (bell or horn) before passing > pedestrians. > • When riding at night, operate the bike with a white light visible from the front and a red reflector or light visible from the rear. > • Reflector tape may be used for added visibility. > • All slower-moving vehicles, including bicycles, shall drive as closely as practical to the right-hand boundary of the highway. Extreme caution should be used when moving out into the center of the road to avoid road debris, to pass > another vehicle, or to make a left turn. > • DO NOT RIDE ON THE SIDEWALK > • Never park a bicycle on a sidewalk in such a way as to interfere with pedestrian traffic. > • Ride on a bike path adjacent to the roadway, if one is provided. > • Carry no more persons than the number for which the bicycle is designed and equipped. > • Never ride more than two abreast so as to interfere with the normal movement of traffic. Now, that one that’s in all caps – and yes, it does appear that way in the manual itself – might be difficult to understand, so I want to make sure you see it: • DO NOT RIDE ON THE SIDEWALK Again: • DO NOT RIDE ON THE SIDEWALK Once more, with feeling: • DO NOT RIDE ON THE SIDEWALK On page 61 of the Manual, we find the following (emphases mine): > [@](#): > > Kentucky law states that cyclists shall: > “Be granted all the rights and be subject to all the duties” applicable to drivers of any vehicle. **A bicycle is a vehicle, not a toy, and, as such, must obey the traffic rules and regulations pertaining to all highway users. Motorists should regard bicyclists as they would any other vehicle.** So, not only are you wrong about that, but the Manual puts an extra onus on **you** as a motor vehicle driver: > [@](#): > > A motorist must: > • Share the road with bicycles. > • Before passing a cyclist, look to see if there is loose debris on the pavement that might cause them to move into the center of the lane. Pass a cyclist only when it > can be done safely, and give ample room (3 feet) between your car and the cyclist. Realize the air turbulence your vehicle can create at high speeds or in windy weather. Give the cyclist extra room if your vehicle has extended outside rearview mirrors. Return to the lane only when you are safely clear of the overtaken bicyclist. > • Look for cyclists. Because of their narrow profile you will need to develop your eye-scanning patterns to include bicyclists. > • When you are turning right after passing a cyclist, leave ample room so you don’t cut him off when you slow for your turn. > • When opening your car door, check behind for cyclists. > • At night be extra alert, and don’t use your high beams for they will temporarily blind the cyclist. > > Remember, bicyclists are not special and privileged. They have the same rights, rules, and responsibilities as all other highway users. So, mjolley, care to admit you were, well, dead wrong, or do you want to do it the hard way and get humiliated some more? ---
**Author:** ![Venoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/c4cdca/32.png) [@Venoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Venoma)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2001, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-pedestrians/92170/12 "2001-11-08T13:56:10Z")
Holy cocksmoking felchwad. Are you really that fucking brainless? I’ll chip in with kabbes’s post and say that I, also, drive on curvy narrow rural roads and I have never had a problem with passing cyclists. Except for the one guy around here with a bit of a mental disability who likes to ride a bit too far over in the lane, the rest of them don’t have a problem keeping to the side, despite the crumbling shoulders, potholes and washouts. Maybe you should just learn to drive, kiddo. I don’t have the option of biking to work. I fully respect those who do so safely. > [@](#): > > Every time I see a bike convoy swerving their way up route 53 I just want to jam the accelerator and clip them with the corner of my car or the mirror or something…don’t these assholes have anything better to do? Moron. Pull that sort of trick around here and you’d be signing your own death certificate. ---
**Author:** ![KarlGrenze](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dbc845/32.png) [@KarlGrenze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGrenze)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2001, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-pedestrians/92170/13 "2001-11-08T14:21:01Z")
Pedestrians are those that use their feet as means of transportation(walkers). I am a pedestrian and MY personal rant is against those bikers who is the **sidewalks** instead of the road to ride. Not nice walking to someplace and being pushed out of the sidewalk thanks to a cyclist. Or worse, almost having a biker crash with you(the biker is riding behind you, and moves to you side at the last minute to pass you by). In fact, sometimes **I** am the one stuck walking in the road until the cyclists pass by. From [http://www.dictionary.com](http://www.dictionary.com): pedestrian- A person traveling on foot; a walker. Of course, according to [dictionary.com](http://dictionary.com) last definition, the OP could be classified as pedestrian:(not sure if it is possible, making it clear) pedestrian adj : lacking wit or imagination ---
**Author:** ![Slip\_Mahoney](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47774/32.png) [@Slip\_Mahoney](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slip_Mahoney)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2001, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-pedestrians/92170/14 "2001-11-08T14:24:30Z")
Laws in Kentucky and Toronto are certainly different, but on the care and feeding of bicycles, we pretty much agree. I have nothing to add to **pldennison’s** post except to reiterate that a bicycle is a vehicle. It’s true that some cyclists don’t take traffic laws seriously, but as a police officer, I can say the same about some motorists. And I sincerely hope that you contain your anger, **mjolley,** or you’ll wind up in jail. “Clipping” a cyclist is not recommended. ---
**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2001, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-pedestrians/92170/15 "2001-11-08T14:32:45Z")
You fucking moron, I have been nearly run over à plusieurs réprises by bicyclists who decided to ignore the law and basic human decency and chose to stay on the sidewalk with the soft killable objects instead of the hard unkillable ones. I have seen a little old lady come this close to getting her ass plastered by a cyclist zooming along at speeds that exceeded those on the adjacent street. _I’ve_ come that close. Bicyclists do not belong on the sidewalk; they belong to the street, and asshole motorists (who by the way, you would think would have little moral authority to make pronouncements like this, already absorbing as they are massively many times their fair share of transportation subsidies; getting to sit in large metal boxes; and spewing noxious fumes into the air) should shut up and deal. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2001, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-pedestrians/92170/16 "2001-11-08T14:40:22Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by pldennison \* > I’m giving all takers 25-1 odds that the OP will not be back in to acknowledge his, er, rather egregious errors here. I had some questions as to whether the OP was, in fact, just trolling, but decided to give **mjolley** the benefit of the doubt. This time. ---
**Author:** ![mug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/779978/32.png) [@mug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mug)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2001, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-pedestrians/92170/17 "2001-11-08T14:41:11Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by RainbowDragon \* > **When I saw the title, it made be think of the drivers in my city who have no compassion for pedestrians crossing the street. Here I am trying to cross a busy street with the white walk symbol clearly visible and drivers are cussing at me from their cars because I am trying to cross the street.** Hey, you live in Cincinnati too? ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_Wright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@Steve\_Wright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_Wright)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2001, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-pedestrians/92170/18 "2001-11-08T14:44:41Z")
So, nobody wants cyclists on sidewalks\*, and the OP doesn’t want them on the roads? Two words: cycle lanes. Work a treat, if you can persuade cyclists to use them, and other road users to respect them. (I think I’ve made my feelings clear before on cyclists who ride on the sidewalk, and the necessity of applying electric cattle prods to their shrivelled and warty genitalia.) Not being a driver myself, I’ll leave discussion of the OP’s driving skills to the experts… but I take a dim view of anything which forces cyclists off the roadway and onto my toes. \*[sub]Concession made here to North Americans, who don’t know which bit is properly called the pavement.[/sub] ---
**Author:** ![KarlGrenze](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dbc845/32.png) [@KarlGrenze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGrenze)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2001, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-pedestrians/92170/19 "2001-11-08T15:10:49Z")
There are cycle lanes where I live. Even with them, some cyclists don’t use them. :mad: The other motor vehicles generally respect them. ---
**Author:** ![DeadlyAccurate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac91a4/32.png) [@DeadlyAccurate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DeadlyAccurate)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2001, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-pedestrians/92170/20 "2001-11-08T15:23:17Z")
[QUOTE] \*Originally posted by pldennison \* \*\* > [@](#): > > I’m giving all takers 25-1 odds that the OP will not be back in to acknowledge his, er, rather egregious errors here. \*\* I think the OP will return and feverishly and angrily argue an irrelevant point without any attempt at logic while at the same time refusing to acknowledge his/her mistake. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-pedestrians/92170.md?page=2)