# Fuck You, Pothead neighbor.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-pothead-neighbor/699778>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 28, 2014, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-pothead-neighbor/699778 "2014-09-28T14:54:48Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2014, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-pothead-neighbor/699778/141 "2014-10-01T21:06:28Z")

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If there were drugs that would soothe that red ass, would you take them?

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**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2014, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-pothead-neighbor/699778/142 "2014-10-01T21:08:53Z")

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> [@Cartooniverse](#):
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> Oooooh, I get it ! So, I - the person who lived in the building already who is law-abiding - is now a PITA for wishing to continue to live in a drug-free environment, while the pot-smoking law-breaker gets the courtesy call from the NYPD.
> 
> Or have I misconstrued? Please confirm.
> 
> The neighbor has agreed to try to ventilate his apartment a bit while smoking. I haven’t smelled anything in a few days. Hopefully this is the end of it.
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> I asked a patrol woman on the street about this last weekend. I started by asking about the new Mayor’s “quality of life” agenda. Asked if having to smell pot smoke in one’s residence fell under that category, or would I just be regarded as a crank of I filed a complaint. She told me to walk over to the Precinct and file my complaint if I wished.
> 
> Now, that obviously seems a PITA irrational blah blah blah response by the druggies who are posting into this thread. But, yanno, I could just give two fucks for what the whole lot of the drug-users have to say. Or think.
> 
> If they’re capable of thinking.

First you ask us to please confirm your thoughts and then in the very next paragraph you claim not to give two fucks for what “drug-users” think.  
Why ask us to confirm if you don’t give a fuck?

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**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2014, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-pothead-neighbor/699778/143 "2014-10-01T21:20:19Z")

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> [@Cartooniverse](#):
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> Oooooh, I get it ! So, I - the person who lived in the building already who is law-abiding - is now a PITA for wishing to continue to live in a drug-free environment, while the pot-smoking law-breaker gets the courtesy call from the NYPD.
> 
> Or have I misconstrued? Please confirm.
> 
> The neighbor has agreed to try to ventilate his apartment a bit while smoking. I haven’t smelled anything in a few days. Hopefully this is the end of it.
> 
> I asked a patrol woman on the street about this last weekend. I started by asking about the new Mayor’s “quality of life” agenda. Asked if having to smell pot smoke in one’s residence fell under that category, or would I just be regarded as a crank of I filed a complaint. She told me to walk over to the Precinct and file my complaint if I wished.
> 
> Now, that obviously seems a PITA irrational blah blah blah response by the druggies who are posting into this thread. But, yanno, I could just give two fucks for what the whole lot of the drug-users have to say. Or think.
> 
> If they’re capable of thinking.

You are coming off as irrational. Maybe you have PTSD from the 9-11. Seeking therapy could probably do you some good.

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**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2014, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-pothead-neighbor/699778/144 "2014-10-01T21:21:53Z")

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> [@Cartooniverse](#):
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> Oooooh, I get it ! So, I - the person who lived in the building already who is law-abiding - is now a PITA for wishing to continue to live in a drug-free environment, while the pot-smoking law-breaker gets the courtesy call from the NYPD.

You were living a drug free environment, and you weren’t a PITA, you were an entitled arsehole who should have minded his own business. You want to live somewhere you don’t have to see, hear, smell, and so forth other people, don’t live in a fucking apartment.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2014, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-pothead-neighbor/699778/145 "2014-10-01T21:38:44Z")

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> [@Shakes](#):
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> First you ask us to please confirm your thoughts and then in the very next paragraph you claim not to give two fucks for what “drug-users” think.  
> Why ask us to confirm if you don’t give a fuck?

Because he’s lying to himself. He does care. He’s angry we didn’t all jump in and back him up. He’s angry we tried to explain reality to him and that it doesn’t match the version of reality he wants. So he’s trying to act like he doesn’t care mostly to convince himself not to look at where he might possibly be wrong, so that he doesn’t have to be.

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**Author:** ![miss\_elizabeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/838e76/32.png) [@miss\_elizabeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/miss_elizabeth)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2014, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-pothead-neighbor/699778/146 "2014-10-01T23:01:00Z")

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> [@Cartooniverse](#):
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> Oooooh, I get it ! So, I - the person who lived in the building already who is law-abiding - is now a PITA for wishing to continue to live in a drug-free environment, while the pot-smoking law-breaker gets the courtesy call from the NYPD.
> 
> Or have I misconstrued? Please confirm.
> 
> The neighbor has agreed to try to ventilate his apartment a bit while smoking. I haven’t smelled anything in a few days. Hopefully this is the end of it.
> 
> I asked a patrol woman on the street about this last weekend. I started by asking about the new Mayor’s “quality of life” agenda. Asked if having to smell pot smoke in one’s residence fell under that category, or would I just be regarded as a crank of I filed a complaint. She told me to walk over to the Precinct and file my complaint if I wished.
> 
> Now, that obviously seems a PITA irrational blah blah blah response by the druggies who are posting into this thread. But, yanno, I could just give two fucks for what the whole lot of the drug-users have to say. Or think.
> 
> If they’re capable of thinking.

You’re an idiot.

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**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2014, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-pothead-neighbor/699778/147 "2014-10-01T23:15:16Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> Because he’s lying to himself. He does care. He’s angry we didn’t all jump in and back him up. He’s angry we tried to explain reality to him and that it doesn’t match the version of reality he wants. So he’s trying to act like he doesn’t care mostly to convince himself not to look at where he might possibly be wrong, so that he doesn’t have to be.

Not hardly. I wouldn’t expect advocates of illegal activities involving drugs to “jump in and back me up”.

I’d expect pretty much what we’ve all seen. Bleary-eyed bemusement that there’s someone on the Internet who isn’t a fucked-up pothead.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2014, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-pothead-neighbor/699778/148 "2014-10-01T23:26:35Z")

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[Cartooniverse](http://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/a562/ChimeraPic/Potpotpotpotpot_zps0376e6e1.png)

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2014, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-pothead-neighbor/699778/149 "2014-10-01T23:35:04Z")

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> [@Cartooniverse](#):
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> Not hardly. I wouldn’t expect advocates of illegal activities involving drugs to “jump in and back me up”.
> 
> I’d expect pretty much what we’ve all seen. Bleary-eyed bemusement that there’s someone on the Internet who isn’t a fucked-up pothead.

Except for the folks who, yanno, aren’t that. Who are also telling you you’re overreacting.

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**Author:** ![SecretaryofEvil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@SecretaryofEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SecretaryofEvil)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2014, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-pothead-neighbor/699778/150 "2014-10-02T00:16:30Z")

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> [@Cartooniverse](#):
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> Not hardly. I wouldn’t expect advocates of illegal activities involving drugs to “jump in and back me up”.
> 
> I’d expect pretty much what we’ve all seen. Bleary-eyed bemusement that there’s someone on the Internet who isn’t a fucked-up pothead.

I attempted to articulate a counterpoint to Cartooniverse’s elegant, logical, and totally fact based arguments but I couldn’t because marijuana has destroyed my young and once promising life.

I’m yet another victim of reefer madness.

[![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/8P_qjLhtA74/hqdefault.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEmCOADEOgC8quKqQMa8AEB-AH-BIAC8AKKAgwIABABGGUgZShlMA8=&rs=AOn4CLCcGLeFXdDLGGFCX998zoAbmD0ntQ "Alan Cumming - Reefer Madness") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8P_qjLhtA74)

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**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2014, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-pothead-neighbor/699778/151 "2014-10-02T01:03:29Z")

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> [@Cartooniverse](#):
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> Not hardly. I wouldn’t expect advocates of illegal activities involving drugs to “jump in and back me up”.
> 
> I’d expect pretty much what we’ve all seen. Bleary-eyed bemusement that there’s someone on the Internet who isn’t a fucked-up pothead.

While I certainly wouldn’t consider myself a pothead by a long-shot, I’ve known those who are who’ve exhibited far more rational thinking than on display in your reactionary posts here.

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**Author:** ![Penfeather](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penfeather/32/384_2.png) [@Penfeather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Penfeather)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2014, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-pothead-neighbor/699778/152 "2014-10-02T02:27:38Z")

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> [@Cartooniverse](#):
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> I asked a patrol woman on the street about this last weekend. I started by asking about the new Mayor’s “quality of life” agenda. Asked if having to smell pot smoke in one’s residence fell under that category, or would I just be regarded as a crank of I filed a complaint. She told me to walk over to the Precinct and file my complaint if I wished.

So she told you to piss off and quit bothering her unless you had a real problem, in other words.

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**Author:** ![SeaDragonTattoo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df705f/32.png) [@SeaDragonTattoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SeaDragonTattoo)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2014, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-pothead-neighbor/699778/153 "2014-10-02T03:20:38Z")

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> [@Cartooniverse](#):
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> Not hardly. I wouldn’t expect advocates of illegal activities involving drugs to “jump in and back me up”.
> 
> I’d expect pretty much what we’ve all seen. Bleary-eyed bemusement that there’s someone on the Internet who isn’t a fucked-up pothead.

Yeesh. I handle controlled substances as part of my job. I have neighbors who toke, and friends who toke. I don’t, and my tests prove it even though I’m at least whiffing the stuff daily via my neighbor across the hall. It’s just not an issue. I would have been fired a long time ago, or at least restricted from handling Class II drugs.

If I understand correctly, pot possession under a certain limit has been decriminalized in your area (since you haven’t said people quoting New York are wrong). It has in mine, too. Walking down the street with less than 15 grams in Chicago is just a ticketable offense. That’s about 15 joints. While smoking it on the sidewalk could lead to bigger issues with cops, they just don’t care if you have it, and smoking it in your own home is no more criminal than having it in your pocket walking around outside.

The smell bothers you, fine. Get an air purifier and be done with it if a conversation is so difficult. Your ire and arm waving about it being OMG ILLEGAL is misplaced.

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**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2014, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-pothead-neighbor/699778/154 "2014-10-02T04:11:11Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> [Cartooniverse](http://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/a562/ChimeraPic/Potpotpotpotpot_zps0376e6e1.png)

What kind of self-respecting “advocate of illegal activities involving drugs” uses PhotoBucket? The narcs are on to that!

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**Author:** ![Crazyhorse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crazyhorse/32/31_2.png) [@Crazyhorse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crazyhorse)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2014, 6:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-pothead-neighbor/699778/155 "2014-10-02T06:41:22Z")

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> [@Cartooniverse](#):
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> Oooooh, I get it ! So, I - the person who lived in the building already who is law-abiding - is now a PITA for wishing to continue to live in a drug-free environment, while the pot-smoking law-breaker gets the courtesy call from the NYPD.
> 
> Or have I misconstrued? Please confirm.

I can confirm that yes, it is you who is the PITA in this situation to both the neighbor and the NYPD.

But if you’re so sure he’s committing a crime why don’t you make a citizen’s arrest and see how it goes?

Don’t waste time railing against a world where so many drug-addicted and flawed individuals, including the legislature and police, think you are a laughable hot-headed asshole.

You have no crime to report. This is just a butthurt rant about how having to live near other human beings isn’t always perfect for you in every little way. Boo hoo.

> [@Cartooniverse](#):
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> I asked a patrol woman on the street about this last weekend. I started by asking about the new Mayor’s “quality of life” agenda. Asked if having to smell pot smoke in one’s residence fell under that category, or would I just be regarded as a crank of I filed a complaint. She told me to walk over to the Precinct and file my complaint if I wished.

That was a polite way of saying that you’re a laughable, hot-headed asshole. When you went away she laughed at you and thought “what a dickhead”. It’s true.

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2014, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-pothead-neighbor/699778/156 "2014-10-02T13:07:09Z")

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> [@SeaDragonTattoo](#):
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> The smell bothers you, fine. Get an air purifier and be done with it if a conversation is so difficult. Your ire and arm waving about it being OMG ILLEGAL is misplaced.

I’m more on your side than most here, but your first option should be to contact building management. My property managers would be filing for eviction (breach of lease terms) real fast. Just wish I could do the same for those who continuously burn incense.

If building management ignores you, continue to send an email every time they light up. _If_ they are doing more than just smoking (and that’s a big “if”), and if the building manager’s ignored complaints, an over-zealous DA _might_ try to use asset forfeiture laws against the owner. A lot of ducks have to line up for that to happen, but it is the reason for my own zero-tolerance of illegal activities in properties I own.

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2014, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-pothead-neighbor/699778/157 "2014-10-02T13:11:54Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Also, you smoke the shit and you forget your kids, so they drown in the bathtub! And don’t give me any of that “cite?” shit, I saw it on _Dragnet_!

Like when Friday talked about how some stoner took LSD and went blind from staring at the Sun. I never did acid because I’m like, “That’s some scary shit man.”

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**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2014, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-pothead-neighbor/699778/158 "2014-10-02T13:44:52Z")

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> [@Crazyhorse](#):
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> You have no crime to report.

It’s kind of predictable. First, the admission by drug apologists that yes, in the State of New York it’s illegal. A misdemeanor. Illegal- but apparently that is irrelevant.

Now, you’ve moved the chains to state that there is no crime to report.

This thread lasts long enough, you’ll be darkly hinting at "those non-drug user citizens who must be watched. "

[retired icon]Putz ![/retired icon]

**D\_Odds** , there is no formal building management. This is not a condo or co-op situation. Therefore, at least in this state, the ability of one tenant to react to the behaviors of another tenant are greatly reduced.

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2014, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-pothead-neighbor/699778/159 "2014-10-02T13:59:04Z")

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> [@Cartooniverse](#):
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> It’s kind of predictable. First, the admission by drug apologists that yes, in the State of New York it’s illegal. A misdemeanor. Illegal- but apparently that is irrelevant.

It’s not even a misdemeanor. It’s a violation, like a parking ticket.

That said, you seemed to have solved the issue by calmly and reasonably discussing it with your neighbor like a grown man. Which is not what your behavior in this thread led me to expect. So, good for you!

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2014, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-pothead-neighbor/699778/160 "2014-10-02T15:30:36Z")

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> [@Cartooniverse](#):
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> It’s kind of predictable. First, the admission by drug apologists that yes, in the State of New York it’s illegal. A misdemeanor. Illegal- but apparently that is irrelevant.

You say “drug apologists”, I say “rational human beings”. Which apparently doesn’t include you.

And as said, it doesn’t even rise to the level of a misdemeanor. It is merely a civil citation. The moral equivalent of your mom giving you a dirty look and saying “Please don’t do that”.

Noting that the penalty ($100 fine) is actually LESS than you’d get for speeding, according to the following chart of New York Law;

For non-commercial vehicles, the fines and possible prison sentences are:  
Speed Minimum fine Maximum fine Possible prison time  
up to 10 mph over $90 $150 not more than 15 days  
more than 10 mph over - less than 30 mph over $180 $300 not more than 30 days  
more than 30 mph over $360 $600 not more than 30 days  
inappropriate speed $45 $150 not more than 15 days  
Fines increase if your are convicted of more than one speed violation in 18 months. License is revoked for 3 convictions in 18 months. Fines may vary for speeding in school zone or restricted highway. Fines are doubled in work zones.

That’s right; Possess a small amount of pot, $100 fine and no jail time. Speed by 1 freaking MPH and you can be fined up to $150 **AND** go to jail for up to 15 days!

Makes your carrying on like this look even more ridiculous in context.

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