# Fuck You, Psycho Pirate **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 19, 2005, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-psycho-pirate/326951 "2005-10-19T17:51:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2005, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-psycho-pirate/326951/1 "2005-10-19T17:51:08Z")
So in [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=340442), we were discussing comments made by avowed atheist and children’s author **Phillip Pullman** about _The Chronicles of Narnia_, which he was basically savaging. And just about every single person who responded disagreed with Pullman, most quite strongly.\* Now, this being the liberal-leaning God-hating SDMB, it seems quite likely that a reasonable portion of those posts, which disagreed with and criticized Pullman, were from atheists or agnostics of some sort. So, what do we learn from that thread? Well, I’d say we’d learn that Pullman, at least in the context of that specific attack, is a bit of an asshole, and that most people on the SDMB recognize that assholitude and do not support it. Our good friend **Psycho Pirate** , however, never one to miss a chance to smear an entire group based on the actions of an individual, dropped [this stinking, unsupported, drive-by turd](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=6701501&postcount=29) into the thread. I mean, come ON, man, have you even READ the thread? Point out just ONE atheist in the thread who is supporting Pullman. I mean, if Pullman is an asshole, he’s an asshole, and you’re free to point it out (and believe me, in this context at least, he is). And if there’s a thread full of atheists being assholes, feel free to point THAT out too. But when Pullman is an asshole, and a thread full of people (presumably many of them atheists) CALL him on it, HOW IN THE NAME OF ALL THAT IS HOLY DOES THAT GIVE YOU THE BALLS TO ATTACK ATHEISTS IN GENERAL? \*True, a few said “some of his points have some validity” or words to that effect, but there was universal disagreement with his tone, and with his most vitriolic points. Shit. ---
**Author:** ![PunditLisa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4af34b/32.png) [@PunditLisa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PunditLisa)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2005, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-psycho-pirate/326951/2 "2005-10-19T19:18:03Z")
I read the post. Didn’t seem particularly Pitworthy to me. Kind of like saying that Al Gore shouldn’t critique a book by George Bush because he’s not an impartial observer. ::shrug:: ---
**Author:** ![Psycho\_Pirate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Psycho\_Pirate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Psycho_Pirate)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2005, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-psycho-pirate/326951/3 "2005-10-19T19:31:59Z")
Looks like I hit a nerve. And it only took me 5+ years of lurking/posting! Any reason why **furt** , who basically said the same thing I did, isn’t being pitted? And I miss plenty of chances to smear a group based on an individual. You should have seen the post I deleted. That was the “nice” version. Heck, you should see _half_ the posts I draft and never post. But, I was in the moment, and I posted when I was angry. Mea culpa, and I apologize for painting all atheists with such a large brush. Not all atheists are hand-stabbing atheists. Some, like Pullman, are, but not all. ---
**Author:** ![Anne\_Neville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Anne\_Neville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anne_Neville)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2005, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-psycho-pirate/326951/4 "2005-10-19T19:32:33Z")
> [@PunditLisa](#): > > I read the post. Didn’t seem particularly Pitworthy to me. Kind of like saying that Al Gore shouldn’t critique a book by George Bush because he’s not an impartial observer. I disagree. I think that his post definitely did come across as saying that all atheists are incapable of being open-minded (or choose not to be open-minded) when reviewing material with Christian themes. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2005, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-psycho-pirate/326951/5 "2005-10-19T19:42:16Z")
> [@Psycho Pirate](#): > > Looks like I hit a nerve. And it only took me 5+ years of lurking/posting! > > Any reason why **furt** , who basically said the same thing I did, isn’t being pitted? Because **furt** was talking specifically about Pullman, you were talking about atheists in general. Or at least, that’s the way you came across. Regardless, thanks for the apology. ---
**Author:** ![Scott\_Plaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Scott\_Plaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scott_Plaid)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2005, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-psycho-pirate/326951/6 "2005-10-19T19:50:22Z")
> [@MaxTheVool](#): > > I mean, come ON, man, have you even READ the thread? Point out just ONE atheist in the thread who is supporting Pullman. Hell, I posted the first reply to that thread, and it was hardly a ringing endorsement of Pullman’s words. Howevver, I do not think you should be so surprised about what Mr. Halstead has said. [Not only is he quite frustrated almos to the point of insanity](http://my.execpc.com/~icicle/GAPSYCHO.html), but he belongs to the group of people who can see only strawmen. For example- Oh, I see he posted. Hmm. ---
**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2005, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-psycho-pirate/326951/7 "2005-10-19T21:14:58Z")
> [@Psycho Pirate](#): > > Any reason why **furt** , who basically said the same thing I did, isn’t being pitted? As Miller said, you were attacking atheists in general, he was just attacking Pullman. > [@](#): > > And I miss plenty of chances to smear a group based on an individual. No doubt true. I withdraw my hyperbole. > [@](#): > > Mea culpa, and I apologize for painting all atheists with such a large brush. Not all atheists are hand-stabbing atheists. Some, like Pullman, are, but not all. Appreciated and accepted. ---
**Author:** ![JThunder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e95f7d/32.png) [@JThunder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JThunder)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2005, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-psycho-pirate/326951/8 "2005-10-19T21:16:09Z")
Hmm. And here I thought someone was going to complain about _Infinite Crisis_. ---
**Author:** ![furt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/439d5e/32.png) [@furt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furt)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2005, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-psycho-pirate/326951/9 "2005-10-19T21:52:23Z")
> [@Psycho Pirate](#): > > Looks like I hit a nerve. And it only took me 5+ years of lurking/posting! Lucky bastard. I’ve still never been pitted. :mad: ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2005, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-psycho-pirate/326951/10 "2005-10-19T21:57:37Z")
Hand Stabbing? ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2005, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-psycho-pirate/326951/11 "2005-10-19T22:05:30Z")
> [@Larry Borgia](#): > > Hand Stabbing? Atheist douchebag Madelyn Murray O’Hare is alleged to have stabbed someone in the hand with a pen when they said, “God bless you,” after she sneezed. So far as I know, there’s no evidence that this ever happened. **Liberal** seems to be the only source for both the phrase and the associated anecdote. ---
**Author:** ![Scott\_Plaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Scott\_Plaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scott_Plaid)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2005, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-psycho-pirate/326951/12 "2005-10-19T22:10:10Z")
> [@JThunder](#): > > Hmm. And here I thought someone was going to complain about _Infinite Crisis_. Complain? No. I am happy he is in an asylum 😛 Oh, and it wasn’t that Ms. O’Hare was offended, she was just hungry. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2005, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-psycho-pirate/326951/13 "2005-10-19T22:10:59Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > Atheist douchebag Madelyn Murray O’Hare is alleged to have stabbed someone in the hand with a pen when they said, “God bless you,” after she sneezed. So far as I know, there’s no evidence that this ever happened. **Liberal** seems to be the only source for both the phrase and the associated anecdote. Huh. Never heard this before. ---
**Author:** ![Excalibre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@Excalibre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Excalibre)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2005, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-psycho-pirate/326951/14 "2005-10-19T23:55:36Z")
> [@Larry Borgia](#): > > Huh. Never heard this before. **Liberal** , with his typical flair, used to use the phrase “hand-stabber” routinely in reference to atheists. ---
**Author:** ![Metacom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecae2f/32.png) [@Metacom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Metacom)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2005, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-psycho-pirate/326951/15 "2005-10-20T00:13:59Z")
> [@MaxTheVool](#): > > But when Pullman is an asshole, and a thread full of people (presumably many of them atheists) CALL him on it, HOW IN THE NAME OF ALL THAT IS HOLY DOES THAT GIVE YOU THE BALLS TO ATTACK ATHEISTS IN GENERAL? It doesn’t and it was lame of him to do so. So… Can us believers start making a pit thread everytime an atheist throws a drive-by turd at us? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2005, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-psycho-pirate/326951/16 "2005-10-20T00:22:35Z")
> [@Metacom](#): > > It doesn’t and it was lame of him to do so. > > So… Can us believers start making a pit thread everytime an atheist throws a drive-by turd at us? 🙂 Of course you can. Why do you even need to ask? ---
**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2005, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-psycho-pirate/326951/17 "2005-10-20T02:15:39Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > Atheist douchebag Madelyn Murray O’Hare is alleged to have stabbed someone in the hand with a pen when they said, “God bless you,” after she sneezed. So far as I know, there’s no evidence that this ever happened. **Liberal** seems to be the only source for both the phrase and the associated anecdote. Oh, no. That phrase is old. I’ve heard it used with some regularity from as far back as I can remember. It is apocryphally attributed to Madalyn Murray O’Hair, and from what I’ve read about her it wouldn’t surprise me if it was true, but regardless of that, it is an old saying. ---
**Author:** ![Talon\_Karrde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Talon\_Karrde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Talon_Karrde)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2005, 7:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-psycho-pirate/326951/18 "2005-10-20T07:52:36Z")
I’ve never liked **Psycho Pirate** , but the apology does make him look better in my eyes. **Psycho** , maybe I’ll try and show you why you’re annoying so you can stop doing it. The post in the CS Lewis thread is a good example. You didn’t actually participate in what the thread was about, instead posting a short frustrated knee-jerk response. STOP DOING THAT. Maybe you’re not such a bad guy, but you don’t come off that way. Why not discuss the topic at hand, and if you don’t like what someone says, bring it up in a better way than making generalizations about them. Finally, my advice may not be worth much. I’m sure there are people on the SDMB that don’t like me, or wouldn’t if they felt strongly enough about me to care. But it might be worth considering anyway. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2005, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-psycho-pirate/326951/19 "2005-10-20T12:51:50Z")
Jeez, **Talon** , the guy has 400 posts in 6 years, yet **Psycho Pirate** is someone you’ve “never liked”? Must not take much to get on your shit list, and you must have a memory like an elephant. ---
**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2005, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-psycho-pirate/326951/20 "2005-10-20T13:42:19Z")
> [@Psycho Pirate](#): > > Not all atheists are hand-stabbing atheists. Some, like Pullman, are, but not all. Not all Christians are child-molesting priests. Some are, but not all. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-psycho-pirate/326951.md?page=2)