# Fuck you Republicans and your bullshit economics.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-republicans-and-your-bullshit-economics/480841>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 11, 2009, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-republicans-and-your-bullshit-economics/480841 "2009-01-11T22:14:15Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 7\
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**Author:** ![UncleBeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/977dab/32.png) [@UncleBeer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBeer)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2009, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-republicans-and-your-bullshit-economics/480841/81 "2009-01-15T21:00:37Z")

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“My guy?” Michael Badnarik? Bob Barr?

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2009, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-republicans-and-your-bullshit-economics/480841/82 "2009-01-15T21:14:56Z")

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Even you’re disowning him now?

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**Author:** ![UncleBeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/977dab/32.png) [@UncleBeer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBeer)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2009, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-republicans-and-your-bullshit-economics/480841/83 "2009-01-15T21:26:46Z")

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Never “owned” Bush, you fucking idiot. We’ve been thru this before. Go find a post from me approving of anything Bush has done during either of his terms.

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**Author:** ![Madgolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Madgolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Madgolf)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2009, 8:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-republicans-and-your-bullshit-economics/480841/84 "2009-01-17T08:38:14Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> The USA had a public debt of 60.8% of GDP in 2007. This ranked it 27th highest out of 126 countries.

Canary in the coal mine time re: public debt -

#1 Zimbabwe (yikes!)  
#3 Japan (ummm… K…)

Note to Obama… stay away from the #1 slot.

Seriously. We have natural resources to pay off all our debt tenfold.

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**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2009, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-republicans-and-your-bullshit-economics/480841/85 "2009-01-17T15:40:41Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Possible problems with President-elect Barack Obama’s economic stimulus plan must be thoroughly vetted. While only a few details are known, one overlooked issue is that it could create a major electoral advantage for Democrats at taxpayer expense. That would be unacceptable for what is being touted as a nonpartisan measure, and gives Republicans yet another reason to oppose it if not restructured.

> **[Obama's Trojan Horse](https://townhall.com/columnists/kenblackwell/2009/01/16/obamas_trojan_horse-n1415799)**
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> Possible problems with President-elect Barack Obama’s economic stimulus plan must be thoroughly vetted.

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Carrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@Captain\_Carrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Carrot)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2009, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-republicans-and-your-bullshit-economics/480841/86 "2009-01-17T15:46:23Z")

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> [@On another topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/481723/2):
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> The Democrats are statists just like the Republicans, not a bit of difference between them. Stop blaming the free market, we don’t HAVE a free market.

Yeah, man! Both parties are the same, man! Don’t vote, there’s no point! _puff_

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**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2009, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-republicans-and-your-bullshit-economics/480841/87 "2009-01-17T16:34:40Z")

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> [@Captain\_Carrot](#):
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> Cite? That’s ridiculous.

This probably referred to the debate moderated by Gibson. Gibson pointed out that when capital gains taxes were lowered (the opposite of what Obama proposed) under both Clinton and Bush, overall tax revenue actually increased, so how could Obama argue for such a change? Obama’s response was something along the lines of, it’s an issue of fairness. As I recall, he stipulated that whether or not revenue would _decrease_ as a result of the tax _increase_, it was still best to raise the capital gains tax, since all those rich guys who benefited from it needed a good ol’ fashioned dose of fairness. And maybe _this_ time tax revenue wouldn’t decrease, if vibrations in the Force were favorable. Or some other nonsense. It wasn’t Obama’s finest moment in the debates.

Anyway, it was in that debate if you want to get the actual quotes.

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