Back to the OP. Rexdart’s problem is that he obsesses with stuff that’s not even worth thinking about.
He was comparing slash writers to stalkers and the like and people who break the law and who are practically molesting the original actors who portrayed these characters…he’s foaming at the mouth, in fact.
Thanks, Loneraven, I forgot that thread. He comes off like a total lunatic.
You’re welcome, Guin. I just re-read that thread, and there’s furry-bashing in that, too! Rex is eventually described as a “provincial putz.” I’m quite ready to re-use that description.
Rex: Some furries get way to upset when someone attacks the freaks
Furries: We do not! Go Fuck yourself and a goat, too! The freaks are not representative!
Rex: That’s what i said! And the freaks are Freaks!
Furries: Stop attacking all Furries! You oppresive bastard!
Hey, he’s right! And my tolerance for furries ended the day Google returned pictures of 101 Dalmations puppies being tenticle raped when i was looking for movie sites. If you want do draw pictures of fox-people, call yourself something different from the people who want to draw pictures of fox-people with 3 foot erections. It just makes sense.
Sigh. I’d bring up my tired example about fans of Harry Potter vs. fans of Harry Potter who read/write slash, but I don’t see that much point in it. The ignorant Post Among Us™, but I’ve gotten enough information to know that they do not comprise the majority of Doperdom.
Hmm. There might be a lesson there.
Fuck it, hampsters ate my post.
I have no anthropomorphic dog in this fight, but I have to say before reading this thread I too had the notion that furries were people who liked to dress in costumes and have sex. Frankly I have no problem with that, doesn’t seem that far removed for costumes and role-play but maybe that’s just me. So my thanks to Daikona , Tengu and others for educating me. But I ask, in all seriousness, why insist on using the furry term when the mainstream media et al has insisted on linking it with the most extreme expressions of it. As mentioned above it’s much like the hackers/crackers thing, I appreciate your ire and understand your point but would it not be better to adopt a different term ?
But since I’m here, RexDart you’re being a tool. I don’t know why you’re still arguing, but nobody gives a flying fuck what you think is weird, normal, average or freakish – you are the judge of noone aside from inside your head. You’re being wilfully ignorant in the face of people trying to educate.
There are extremes of every section of people, every fetish, every ‘kink’. To judge people by the extermities is both wrong and narrow minded, for any section of society we could probably find a minority that take it too far. And ‘too far’ is purely based (outside of legal restraints) on the judgement of the judgers. RexDart, having read previous posts from you, you seem to have a problem with what you regard as obsesives, yet you seem to be terribly obsesed (even rabid) about pointing this out.
Chill out man.
SD
Am I the only one who finds this thread hilarious and surreal?
Please tell me I am not.
You’re not.
Fair question. Not a fair idea, but phrased in a way suggesting you’d actually accept an explaination as so why that’s the case. So…I’ll give you one.
It’s because we had it first. It’s the principal of the thing.
Continuing the Hacker/Cracker comparison (because it is, indeed, a good one): Hackers have been fighting the fight for a hell of a lot longer than we have, and have, to be blunt, lost, sadly. But there remains a vocal element who try to reclaim the term. Quite rightly, IMO.
We’ve still got a chance of hanging onto the term before having to go so far as to reclaim it (unlike Crackers, plushophiles and 'Suiters aren’t doing anyone any harm, so the stories misusing the term are generally fluff peices, so it spreads slow), and I, for one, am going to fight to the last breath.
There are, of course, those who use other terms.
I prefer ‘Furre’ over ‘Furry’, for myself (as a noun, Furry, Anthro, and Anthropomorphic are the usual adjectival forms.). There’s also Anthro, Morph, ‘Funny Animal’ (an old term that I, personally, prefer to use only for characters whose creators prefer the designation (with a handful of perverse exceptions), or ‘historical’ discussion of old Funny Animal comics), Anthropomorph, and probably a couple that are slipping my mind ATM.
But we - or rather an earlier generation of the fandom - coined the term Furry to describe themselves. We shouldn’t have to give it up because of misuse. Nor should we have to scurry off into holes whenever someone starts misusing the term for fear of the ignorant masses thinking the disengeious ‘and they take it so SERIOUSLY, those skunkfuckers!’ argument is a good one.
See, that’s not even pretending to be rational though. It’s the same as if you announced that all of humanity was a cesspool because there was kiddy porn somewhere.
Tars, you’ve enough intelligent posts here to convince me you’re not as dumb as you sound. So, let’s indulge in a thought experiment. I’m going to assume, based on statistics, that you’re a heterosexual male. If not, please adjust genders of the following accordingly.
There is, on the net, a great deal of gay male porn, some of it quite nasty. (And not a good nasty, either.) Now, you might be repulsed by this. But, it is not politic, polite, or indicitave of brain actividy to post about how horrible gay people are based on this porn.
Not a perfect analogy, as the furry fandom isn’t comparable to a sexual preference, but I think I get my point across.
Fair enough, I can’t argue with that. Thank you, Tengu for the explaination. I don’t know if it’s a fight you can win but I appreciate your conviction and your right to try. Hopefully this thread has done some good to that end.
I’d also just like to point out that I do really know how to spell hamster. Really.
SD
Glad to help, SD.
Glad there’s someone on the net who can. ^__~ (I say this as someone who always puts that frelling p in there. I also always spell Pigeon ‘Pidgeon’. >_< :smack: )
Oh - and I fear we’re not going to have any more success than the Hackers in holding on to our term, but I’m gonna keep trying.