# Fuck you rjung...oh, and you too gonzomax

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 15, 2006, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rjung-oh-and-you-too-gonzomax/368759 "2006-08-15T02:38:26Z")\
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**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2006, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rjung-oh-and-you-too-gonzomax/368759/41 "2006-08-15T23:48:58Z")

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Since I’m late to the party (and have already addressed **xtisme** in the thread he referred to in the OP), I’ll just mention that I have little patience for stupidity, and today’s Republican Party and religious conservatives have taxed my meager supplies to Empty. Hence my preference for energy-efficient one-line snipes over in-depth analysis.

That said, feel free to continue with the lovely **rjung** -bashing. I know it’s a major strain for all you yaboos to continue to find new excuses for the excesses of the Bush Administration, and I’m glad to provide some sort of diversionary entertainment for y’all, even indirectly. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2006, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rjung-oh-and-you-too-gonzomax/368759/42 "2006-08-16T00:03:18Z")

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Why don’t you fuck yourself?

You have little patience for stupidity? What could be more stupid than assuming everyone who disagrees with you only does so because Karl Rove ordered them to disagree with you?

I don’t hate you because I love George Bush. I hate you because you’re a moron who couldn’t argue himself out of a paper bag, and your “joking” response in this thread proves it.

Either debate honestly, or stay the fuck out of Great Debates from now on.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2006, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rjung-oh-and-you-too-gonzomax/368759/43 "2006-08-16T00:06:08Z")

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[QUOTE=rjung]  
That said, feel free to continue with the lovely **rjung** -bashing. I know it’s a major strain for all you yaboos to continue to find new excuses for the excesses of the Bush Administration, and I’m glad to provide some sort of diversionary entertainment for y’all, even indirectly. 🙂  
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You know, quite a few die-hard liberals think you’re an asshole, too. God knows I do.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2006, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rjung-oh-and-you-too-gonzomax/368759/44 "2006-08-16T00:08:48Z")

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[QUOTE=rjung]  
Since I’m late to the party (and have already addressed **xtisme** in the thread he referred to in the OP)  
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Yeah, you sure did. In usually dumb-ass way:

> [@rjung](#):
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> My goof, sorry. I was thinking of Evil One. Or John Mace. Or Shodan. Or Starving Artist. Or Clothahump. Or… heck, it’s so hard to tell all you sheep apart…

A simple apology and an admission of error would suffice. Fucking moron! :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2006, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rjung-oh-and-you-too-gonzomax/368759/45 "2006-08-16T00:55:04Z")

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[QUOTE=rjung]  
Since I’m late to the party (and have already addressed xtisme in the thread he referred to in the OP), I’ll just mention that I have little patience for stupidity, and today’s Republican Party and religious conservatives have taxed my meager supplies to Empty. Hence my preference for energy-efficient one-line snipes over in-depth analysis.  
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Couldn’t find a cite for me saying Bush was doing a heck of a job, ehe? And instead of doing the adult thing and saying you apologized and/or it was only a joke (not that THIS would fly where you are at wrt your rep on this board), you instead decided to call a bunch of OTHERS Bush apologists as well. :rolleyes:

[QUOTE=rjung]  
My goof, sorry. I was thinking of Evil One. Or John Mace. Or Shodan. Or Starving Artist. Or Clothahump. Or… heck, it’s so hard to tell all you sheep apart… 😃  
[/QUOTE]

So, though you couldn’t prove your point, you still lump me in with the supposed ‘sheep’ (John Mace? A Bush Apologist/supporter? Are you serious???) a.k.a. Bush Apologists™ anyway? And then you have the gall to say that you have little patience with ‘stupidity’? You must have a hard time living with yourself is all I can say. Not only did you overload my irony detector, but you pegged out the BS detector with this little gem “Hence my preference for energy-efficient one-line snipes over in-depth analysis.” :rolleyes:

Seriously rjung you need to get a grip. Even those nominally on your side think you are an ass…in GD at least.

-XT

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**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2006, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rjung-oh-and-you-too-gonzomax/368759/46 "2006-08-16T01:01:08Z")

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[QUOTE=rjung]  
Since I’m late to the party (and have already addressed **xtisme** in the thread he referred to in the OP), I’ll just mention that I have little patience for stupidity, and today’s Republican Party and religious conservatives have taxed my meager supplies to Empty. Hence my preference for energy-efficient one-line snipes over in-depth analysis.  
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Save more energy. Don’t post.

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**Author:** ![Triskadecamus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b19c9b/32.png) [@Triskadecamus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Triskadecamus)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2006, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rjung-oh-and-you-too-gonzomax/368759/47 "2006-08-16T04:30:56Z")

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**rjung**

Your ineffective argumentation lends great credence to all who favor the current administration. Your braying upon a single note is not informative, persuasive, or interesting. It’s just self indulgent, and stupid. I assure you, no one on this board thinks of me as a Bushista. I am seldom confused for a right wing supporter. I opposed the Iraq war on this board from the first threads on the subject, and in fact from the beginnings of the Afghan bombing discussions.

I don’t object to your posts because I support any part of the Republican Party, or its leaders, or their policies. I object because they are pointless, insipid, and reflect poorly on the genuine dissatisfaction that deserves to be brought out by people willing to actually engage in the hard work of expository rhetoric. This particular board has very high, if very unofficial standards. You need to suck it up, get over yourself, and do the job, or be thought a buffoon, and make everyone who agrees with you wince when they see you on their side.

If you find the opinions of others beneath your intellectual consideration, consider not posting, as opposed to posting without intellect. It would be an improvement.

Tris

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2006, 10:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rjung-oh-and-you-too-gonzomax/368759/48 "2006-08-16T10:01:16Z")

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[QUOTE=Shodan]  
I’m often surprised at how Dopers insist in being included in groups they say they dislike.

**rjung** is a mindless partisan. I object to mindless partisans, and give them a name (the Usual Suspects). **Left Hand of Dorkness** also objects to mindless partisans, and insists he should be counted as one of them.

Go figure.

Regards,  
Shodan  
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Can I get some of that action? Please please please?

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2006, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rjung-oh-and-you-too-gonzomax/368759/49 "2006-08-16T12:31:38Z")

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[QUOTE=Bryan Ekers]  
Can I get some of that action? Please please please?  
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Nope, you have to _earn_ it. The dumbassery of **rjung** and the other Usual Suspects is the product of years of dedicated stupidity, not the work of a moment.

Go forth and learn from their ignorance, young Jedi.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2006, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rjung-oh-and-you-too-gonzomax/368759/50 "2006-08-16T13:30:39Z")

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[QUOTE=Shodan]  
Nope, you have to _earn_ it. The dumbassery of **rjung** and the other Usual Suspects is the product of years of dedicated stupidity, not the work of a moment.

Go forth and learn from their ignorance, young Jedi.

Regards,  
Shodan  
[/QUOTE]  
Oh, you go fuck yourself, asshole. There isn’t a bigger fucking partisan on the board than yourself. Most of your posts, as I’ve noted recently, are such that a bot spewing random “Democrats are bad” posts would be indistinguishable from your contributions.

The content of your typical posts is also represented well in the quoted posts. That is, absolutely nothing.

As to **rjung** , while I might not have agreed with the particular post that prompted this pitting, he is generally heads and shoulders above many other posters here. And, as I said before, **xtisme** had historically been one to voice support for Bush and think about it later. I was particularly frustrated to work and work to get him to understand a point, only to have him revert to form within a day or two.

He is, on the other hand, capable of critical thinking, which distinguishes him completely and pleasantly from fucking **Shodan-bot** , as well as many other brain-dead conservative lick-spittles here.

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**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2006, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rjung-oh-and-you-too-gonzomax/368759/51 "2006-08-16T14:49:55Z")

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[QUOTE=Hentor the Barbarian]

He is, on the other hand, capable of critical thinking, which distinguishes him completely and pleasantly from fucking **Shodan-bot** , as well as many other brain-dead conservative lick-spittles here.  
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Who? If you mean Xtisme then I agree that he is capable of critical thinking. If you mean rjung than you’re crazy. Rjung (in any type of political thread) is an ignorant goat testicle capable of doing nothing more than repeating “Bush sucks! You’re a Bush apologist” over and over and over and over and over. Parrots have a wider range of things to say than he does, and likely a slightly higher IQ.

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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2006, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rjung-oh-and-you-too-gonzomax/368759/52 "2006-08-16T15:11:12Z")

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[QUOTE=Weirddave]  
Who? If you mean Xtisme then I agree that he is capable of critical thinking. If you mean rjung than you’re crazy. Rjung (in any type of political thread) is an ignorant goat testicle capable of doing nothing more than repeating “Bush sucks! You’re a Bush apologist” over and over and over and over and over. Parrots have a wider range of things to say than he does, and likely a slightly higher IQ.  
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I mean that they both are capable of critical thinking.

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**Author:** ![crazyjoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f14d63/32.png) [@crazyjoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crazyjoe)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2006, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rjung-oh-and-you-too-gonzomax/368759/53 "2006-08-16T16:30:35Z")

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Wasn’t rjung suspended at one point for being a one-liner and also doing the Mac-taunting? I read a lot of threads here and post to very few, but have to say that I definitely notice rjung’s one-liner stupidity everywhere, even in inappropriate threads. I mean, we could be complaining about Sony recalling batteries, and it would be Bush’s fault. He pushes the line anywhere he can, and only leaves it alone (mostly) in GQ where he has been specifically warned about doing it in the past.

His behavior in terms of political debating can ONLY be termed as trollish, and I wouldn’t mourn his contributions elsewhere on the board were he to reap the consequences of his trollhood. I’ve never noticed any particularly insightful contribution from him.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2006, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rjung-oh-and-you-too-gonzomax/368759/54 "2006-08-16T16:48:41Z")

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[QUOTE=Hentor the Barbarian]  
I mean that they both are capable of critical thinking.  
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Probably. But I’ve seen no evidence that \*\*rjung \*\*actually taps into his capability. Are you seriously going to tell us that he is not the king of contentless, one-line driveby posts? He may share that regency with a few other posters (both on the left and the right), but no one who’s been around here even 1/4 as long as he has can best him for that title.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2006, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rjung-oh-and-you-too-gonzomax/368759/55 "2006-08-16T17:16:26Z")

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[QUOTE=John Mace]  
Probably. But I’ve seen no evidence that \*\*rjung \*\*actually taps into his capability. Are you seriously going to tell us that he is not the king of contentless, one-line driveby posts? He may share that regency with a few other posters (both on the left and the right), but no one who’s been around here even 1/4 as long as he has can best him for that title.  
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Umm, Handy? I think his name was? He had the most posts for years, then was banned recently? Not really a bad guy, in fact I don’t think he should have been banned, but _damn_ his posts were contentless one liners.

There are few things more annoying that some dude asking about the Spyware that has infect his PC and some idiot Mac-ophile driving by with same asshole comment like “Well, if you had a Mac like me you wouldn’t have any problems”. That _should_ be bannable. Now, maybe, if some dude asks “What is the right PC for me to buy?” then a query of “Have you considered a Mac? Blahblahblahetcetcetc” is tolerable.

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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2006, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rjung-oh-and-you-too-gonzomax/368759/56 "2006-08-16T17:23:25Z")

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[QUOTE=John Mace]  
Are you seriously going to tell us that he is not the king of contentless, one-line driveby posts?  
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I’ve already indicated who I think holds that title. Are you seriously going to tell me that **Shodan** is _not_ far and away worse for generating contentless, one line driveby posts? Nearly everything that guy writes is exactly what he wrote just a few posts up from this one. Or do you not count them as one liners because they all have two fucking lines taken up with his “Regards, Shodan” bullshit?

I am willing to not automatically discount the possibility that, since I agree with what **rjung** says, I might be less sensitive to the impact of his posts. However, just scanning over the first couple pages of “view all posts” results for **rjung** , and even skipping over the non-political ones, I do not see support for him as particularly deserving of such condemnation.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2006, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rjung-oh-and-you-too-gonzomax/368759/57 "2006-08-16T19:23:29Z")

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[QUOTE=Hentor the Barbarian]  
I’ve already indicated who I think holds that title. Are you seriously going to tell me that **Shodan** is _not_ far and away worse for generating contentless, one line driveby posts? Nearly everything that guy writes is exactly what he wrote just a few posts up from this one. Or do you not count them as one liners because they all have two fucking lines taken up with his “Regards, Shodan” bullshit?

[/QUOTE]  
I can’t tell - is it that you **can’t** read, or that you **don’t** read?

The “contentless” part of the above merely means that you don’t recognize anything with which you disagree. The “one-line” part is a mere lie.

What’s that, now, three lines? More than you’re worth, anyway.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![Yeticus\_Rex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a698b9/32.png) [@Yeticus\_Rex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yeticus_Rex)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2006, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rjung-oh-and-you-too-gonzomax/368759/58 "2006-08-16T20:44:04Z")

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Note: Consider this when making future comparisons:  
**rjung** : 16,113 posts since September, 2000.

**shodan** : 8,215 posts since July, 2000.

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**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2006, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rjung-oh-and-you-too-gonzomax/368759/59 "2006-08-16T20:51:37Z")

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Too bad they don’t give the average length of post in that statistic. From my own memory rjung (at least in GD) usually posts a single sentence…maybe with a quote from someone he’s trying to accuse of being a Bush supporter. Shodan, reguardless of if you agree with his politics or view point or not, usually posts significantly more (again, this is from memory on my part…I’m willing to be proved wrong).

In GD at least its pretty clear who is most guilty of drive by posting.

-XT

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2006, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rjung-oh-and-you-too-gonzomax/368759/60 "2006-08-16T22:05:46Z")

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[QUOTE=Hentor the Barbarian]  
I’ve already indicated who I think holds that title. Are you seriously going to tell me that **Shodan** is _not_ far and away worse for generating contentless, one line driveby posts? Nearly everything that guy writes is exactly what he wrote just a few posts up from this one. Or do you not count them as one liners because they all have two fucking lines taken up with his “Regards, Shodan” bullshit?  
[/quote]

**Shodan** , in my experience, uses a different technique, although it tends to be highly partisan as well. He’ll argue with you until the cows comes home, stating things that are mostly his own opinion and difficult to prove. \*\*rjung \*\*makes one stupid post and then flees the scene whenever asked to provide any cites. I’d hardly call \*\*Shodan \*\*a drive-by poster, though.

> [@](#):
>
> I am willing to not automatically discount the possibility that, since I agree with what **rjung** says, I might be less sensitive to the impact of his posts. However, just scanning over the first couple pages of “view all posts” results for **rjung** , and even skipping over the non-political ones, I do not see support for him as particularly deserving of such condemnation.

Well, sometime when the server isn’t so slow maybe we can do a comparison over a month time-span or something.

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