# Fuck you, Rowan County (KY) Clerk Kim Davis **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 13, 2015, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757 "2015-08-13T18:09:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2015, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/181 "2015-08-20T18:48:47Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > A poster here says that the Supreme Court justices were “assholes” when they voted in Citizens, but suddenly, the same justices are A-OK when they vote the way he politically likes. It’s quite possible to disagree with some of the Supremes. But that’s not denying their legal right to make those decisions. Ted Cruz, who clerked for Rehnquist, was being especially disingenuous when he coined the term “five unelected judges.” He was shocked, _shocked_ to realize that they had not been elected! Anyone who knows the Constitution realizes there\* is\* a way to “fix” the Supreme Court–but it takes time. At this point, I’m hoping it is \*many \*years before another Republican has a chance to nominate a Supreme Court justice. (Historical note: As a young lawyer, Cruz was a junior member of the team that argued Bush V Gore. Speaking of assholes!) ---
**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2015, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/182 "2015-08-21T01:48:38Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > If a reason didn’t exist, they’d invent one. They’ve never hesitated to do so. So why put more bullets in their gun? The money shot that the Liberty Counsel people are after is Davis being led away in handcuffs; a great visual for their “Christians are being thrown to the lions again” narrative. The judge issuing a stay, then fining her for contempt, is simply not as sexy. ---
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2015, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/183 "2015-08-21T03:26:59Z")
> [@HeXen](#): > > American’s need to stop the whining over solvable issues and asking for someone to hold their hands by actually using their brains to solve life’s problems and dilemma’s for themselves. It’s part of being an adult. Rather some people would rather just give excuses after excuses and become a victim, practically going out of their way to become a victim. Helpless victim’s… cry, sue, profit, repeat…what a pathetic adult life that must be. You are absolutely correct here! And so when Liberal Town, USA bans guns, the NRA should keep its fucking mouth shut. After all, the people who have guns can simply go somewhere else. Or, given that it’s becoming increasingly obvious that organized religion is a bad influence on children, Liberal Town says “no more churches inside city limits”, the Christians should just start attending church outside the city and not whine about it. Right? After all, these are all solvable problems. Or is it only a solvable problem when it’s something you don’t care about? ---
**Author:** ![SCAdian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scadian/32/3292_2.png) [@SCAdian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCAdian)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2015, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/184 "2015-08-24T02:35:58Z")
> [@Martin\_Hyde](#): > > she will then be jailed indefinitely until she complies. :dubious: Presumably applications will be taken to her cell for her to sign (or not sign, as she pleases)? ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2015, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/185 "2015-08-27T15:05:47Z")
Well, now she’s defying the 6th Circuit Court’s ruling too. > **[Ky. clerk's office continues to defy same-sex marriage order](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/kentucky-clerks-office-continues-to-defy-same-sex-marriage-order/)** > > Despite another court ordering Rowan County clerk to issue marriage licences, the office still refuses ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2015, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/186 "2015-08-27T15:13:39Z")
This woman needs some jail time for contempt. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2015, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/187 "2015-08-27T15:21:46Z")
> [@](#): > > U.S. District Judge David Bunning had already ordered Davis to issue marriage licenses two weeks ago. He later delayed that ruling until Aug. 31 or until the U.S. 6th Circuit Court of Appeals issued a ruling. The appeals court did so on Wednesday, denying Davis’ appeal. > > But a deputy clerk in Davis’ office told Smith and Yates on Thursday that the office believes Bunning’s delay remains in effect until Aug. 31. He refused to give his name or give them a license. I see two people that need to have their asses hauled before a judge. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2015, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/188 "2015-08-27T15:23:16Z")
Well, he could have been just following orders – like the other camp guards. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2015, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/189 "2015-08-27T16:10:42Z")
Hmmm… the entire office is refusing to issue licenses. Does everyone in the office share that very same religious belief, or has she ordered everyone in the office to obey her religious belief? It’d be great if one of her own staff sued her for not respecting THEIR beliefs. ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2015, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/190 "2015-08-27T22:10:17Z")
> [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](#): > > Well, now she’s defying the 6th Circuit Court’s ruling too. > > [Kentucky clerk's office defies same-sex marriage order despite another court ruling - CBS News](http://www.cbsnews.com/news/kentucky-clerks-office-continues-to-defy-same-sex-marriage-order/) Maybe it’ll go all the way to the Supremes. ---
**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2015, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/191 "2015-08-28T00:04:16Z")
She will shortly be appointed Secretary of Sin by the soon-to-be-sworn-on President Trump. That’ll show us. ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2015, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/192 "2015-08-28T00:42:46Z")
I believe the deputy clerk is her son. And the prior clerk was her mother. They seem to have a little dynasty going on there. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2015, 6:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/193 "2015-08-28T06:18:04Z")
A DICK dynasty, if you will. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Greenjeans](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.greenjeans/32/551_2.png) [@Mr.Greenjeans](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Greenjeans)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2015, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/194 "2015-08-28T22:27:12Z")
> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#): > > Maybe it’ll go all the way to the Supremes. > **[Clerk asks US Supreme Court to intervene in marriage case](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/ap/article-3214718/Clerk-asks-US-Supreme-Court-intervene-marriage-case.html)** > > FRANKFORT, Ky. (AP) — Two months after it legalized gay marriage nationwide, the U.S. Supreme Court is being asked by a Kentucky county clerk for permission ... And if they say No, she’ll ask again. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2015, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/195 "2015-08-28T22:52:23Z")
> [@Mr.Greenjeans](#): > > [Clerk asks US Supreme Court to intervene in marriage case | Daily Mail Online](http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/ap/article-3214718/Clerk-asks-US-Supreme-Court-intervene-marriage-case.html) > > And if they say No, she’ll ask again. The justice hearing her appeal for the stay to continue is Kagan, who voted for the decision. I don’t think she’ll get the answer she’s hoping for. Davis has said that she will not issue licenses. Period. Ever. I don’t see any way this will end short of her being fined and/or imprisoned for contempt of court. Then I guess they start all over with the deputy clerk, her son. It’s Davis’s all the way down. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2015, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/196 "2015-08-31T00:42:38Z")
> [@](#): > > The Supreme Court ruled in June that the Constitution guarantees gay people the right to marry. But Davis contends the First Amendment guarantees her the right of religious freedom. _Garcetti v Ceballos_ found that 1st Amendment free speech rights were severely curtailed for public sector employees for statements made in accordance with their jobs; wouldn’t that same rationale apply to 1st Amendment religious rights? It seems to me that no matter where Mrs. Davis tries to make her stand, she has no legs at all. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2015, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/197 "2015-08-31T00:56:40Z")
[Clerk Who Refuses To Marry LGBT Couples Performed Trans Man’s Marriage](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/clerk-who-refuses-to-marry-lgbt-couples-performed-trans-mans-marriage_55e343d5e4b0c818f6183433?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000592&ref=yfp) > [@](#): > > A county clerk in Kentucky who petitioned the Supreme Court to allow her to refuse to wed LGBT couples unknowingly married a trans man and a pansexual woman, the couple says. > > Davis issued the marriage certificate without asking for\*\* Colen’s birth certificate, which identifies him as a female\*\*, he told the Courier-Journal. _collapses with laughter_ ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2015, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/198 "2015-08-31T02:29:24Z")
Satan and his ilk are deceivers, that’s what they do and it’s been proven here. So says her pastor, I’m sure. Naw, the real humor is in her poor knowledge of her civic responsibilities, the nepotism of this Podunk Town, and the scary knowledge that the outside world requires change despite her struggle against it. She will lose, that’s all that matters, we don’t need to make an example of her because this reality won’t change despite the angry foot stomping of childlike obstinance. ---
**Author:** ![Truman\_Burbank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@Truman\_Burbank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Truman_Burbank)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2015, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/199 "2015-08-31T06:29:27Z")
It seems obvious that no matter how far upstairs this case gets kicked, she’ll never relent, as her Supreme Being is always going gonna have rank. I wish she could at least be suspended without pay while she appeals. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2015, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/200 "2015-09-01T00:22:05Z")
[Take your God and shove it!](http://news.yahoo.com/reckoning-nears-clerk-resisting-same-sex-marriage-ruling-202230268.html) OK, so the Supremes weren’t quite that harsh but she loses another round. > [@](#): > > The Supreme Court on Monday ruled against the Kentucky county clerk who has refused to issue same-sex marriage licenses, and the clerk will arrive at work Tuesday morning to face her moment of truth. > > Rowan County Clerk Kim Davis will have to choose whether to issue marriage licenses, defying her Christian conviction, or continue to refuse them, defying a federal judge who could pummel her with fines or order that she be hauled off to jail. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757.md?page=11)