# Fuck you, Rowan County (KY) Clerk Kim Davis **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 13, 2015, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757 "2015-08-13T18:09:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 25
**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/481 "2015-09-03T14:33:04Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > Ask yourself why you didn’t quote the complete sentence I wrote. :rolleyes: The part about the military, WTF does that have to do with the [duties](http://rowancountyclerk.com/) of a county clerk? > [@Kim Davis](#): > > As county clerk I am responsible for providing many services to the people of Rowan county. These duties include general categories of clerical duties of the fiscal court: **issuing and registering** , recording and keeping **various legal records** , registering and purging voter rolls, and conducting election duties and tax duties. bolding mine. It’s her job, one of the key duties of her position, to issue legal documents, like marriage licenses. The people elected her to provide services to the people of Rowan county, and she’s refusing to provide those services, in direct violation of the rights of people in her county. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/482 "2015-09-03T14:36:46Z")
> [@Trinopus](#): > > Kim Davis is a bad “poster child” for Religious Conscience, because of her serial adultery (as Jesus defined the term.) She’s a regular adulterer in the usual sense (from **Czarcasm’s** link upthread): > [@](#): > > The Kentucky county clerk facing potentially stiff penalties for refusing to issue same-sex marriage licenses has been married four times, raising questions of hypocrisy and selective application of the Bible to her life. The marriages are documented in court records obtained by U.S. News, which show that Rowan County Clerk Kim Davis divorced three times, first in 1994, then 2006 and again in 2008. She gave birth to twins five months after divorcing her first husband. They were fathered by her third husband but adopted by her second. Davis worked at the clerk’s office at the time of each divorce and has since remarried. This means she was screwing her future third husband four months before divorcing her first. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/483 "2015-09-03T14:45:38Z")
Fining her will not work, she’s going to be able to live off the donations that will be pouring in. Ultimately, she has to be relieved of her duties. Perhaps a judge could direct that neighboring counties provide offices in her county to take care of marriage licenses. This cannot be allowed to stand. She put her hand on the Bible to uphold the Constitution, not the other way around. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/484 "2015-09-03T14:47:18Z")
> [@leftfield6](#): > > She should receive the customary sentence for contempt of court in these circumstances. She should not receive less just because interested private citizens request it. Nor should she be given more just to prove a point. > > I don’t want her to wind up being a martyr here. The legislature needs to call a special session and relieve her of her duties. There is no “customary sentence” for contempt. Contempt is a tool designed to effect compliance with rules and orders of the court, not a punitive measure. It’s not a statutory offense like, say, perjury. The “interested private citizens” are _the other parties_ to the case, so their requests should absolutely be taken into account. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/485 "2015-09-03T14:49:58Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > She’s a regular adulterer in the usual sense (from **Czarcasm’s** link upthread): But she says that, as a Christian, she’s forgiven, so it’s good. Not hypocritical at all, in no way undermining her claim to sincerity. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/486 "2015-09-03T14:50:07Z")
So, I’m just curious. Is it only this issue that has Ms. Davis’s hackles up? What if a group of Jews wants to start a synagogue, or say a group of Muslims wants to start a mosque in her county? Going by her so-called logic, she cannot issue them permits for that because then she’d be agreeing with all of their teachings. What about a restaurant that wants to serve shellfish? What about when someone comes in to apply for a marriage license and that person has been divorced but not for the one stated reason in the New Testament. Oops! I forgot; she doesn’t think that part of the Bible applies. Look, Kim. You’re not approving or disapproving of anything by issuing a license. You’re not even officiating at the marriage unless you want to and then only if (a) the law permits you to do so, and (b) the applicants request you do so. All you’re doing by issuing a license is certifying to a set of facts; to wit: the applicants meet the requirements under the law to receive said license. Here’s a good example of someone certifying to a fact but without approving of the individual case: I certify you are a hypocrite. I do not approve of you nor of your actions. Pretty simple. Even a rube like that witch should be able to get it. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/487 "2015-09-03T14:51:38Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Do we have to? The other issues seem pretty cut-and-dried. > > Why is Kim Davis acting that way? Because she’s a stupid bitch. > > Why is D’Anconia acting that way? Because he’s a stupid bitch. [Cartman] _ **Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeellll…** _ \ [/Cartman] ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/488 "2015-09-03T15:24:32Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Is it Thursday, 3 September 2015 already? 😕 Yes it is. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/489 "2015-09-03T15:25:43Z")
At least you know how to read a calendar. There is some base level of numeracy there after all. ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/490 "2015-09-03T15:32:51Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > At least you know how to read a calendar. derpy derpy doo ---
**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/491 "2015-09-03T15:46:39Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > Explain it. Use small words, if you have to. How does this affect you, let alone everyone? “No one is free when others are oppressed.” How’s that? ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/492 "2015-09-03T15:51:16Z")
> [@Cheesesteak](#): > > The part about the military, WTF does that have to do with the [duties](http://rowancountyclerk.com/) of a county clerk? bolding mine. You’re kidding, right? Especially after my post to The Kink Imbecile, Elvis? Yeesh. > [@Cheesesteak](#): > > It’s her job, one of the key duties of her position, to issue legal documents, like marriage licenses. The people elected her to provide services to the people of Rowan county, and she’s refusing to provide those services, in direct violation of the rights of people in her county. You seem to be under the impression that I in any way do not agree with this. If so, you are mistaken. ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/493 "2015-09-03T15:57:47Z")
I find this quote of hers quite telling: “I would have to either make a decision to stand or I would have to buckle down and leave,” she said, pondering her choices. “And if I left, resigned or chose to retire, **I would have no voice for God’s word."** (bolding mine.) So for her, it’s more than just her beliefs. It’s also evangelizing. Let’s hope she gets defeated quite handily in the next election. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/494 "2015-09-03T16:05:21Z")
One wonders what other impermissible practices her office engages in if she thinks the purpose of her job is evangelism. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/495 "2015-09-03T16:08:47Z")
> [@ivylass](#): > > I find this quote of hers quite telling: > > “I would have to either make a decision to stand or I would have to buckle down and leave,” she said, pondering her choices. “And if I left, resigned or chose to retire, **I would have no voice for God’s word."** (bolding mine.) … Without her, God is helpless! ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/496 "2015-09-03T16:11:41Z")
She can go evangelize all she wants outside of her responsibilities. But what she is _required_ to do as part of the job she gets paid to do is issue licenses to SS couples. It seems clear that an earlier poster was correct in saying that she is just trying to expand her celebrity for the lecture circuit or to write a book. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/497 "2015-09-03T16:12:28Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > Without her, God is helpless! Someone should give her a copy of Milton. Then punch her in her smarmy face. ---
**Author:** ![lost4life](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c4cdca/32.png) [@lost4life](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lost4life)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/498 "2015-09-03T16:17:23Z")
> [@ivylass](#): > > … Let’s hope she gets defeated quite handily in the next election. Sadly, this has probably guaranteed her a landslide victory. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/499 "2015-09-03T16:33:32Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > Especially after my post to The Kink Imbecile, Elvis? Kink Imbecile? Is that, like, a guy who puts his ball gag on backwards? ---
**Author:** ![Foggy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foggy/32/1082_2.png) [@Foggy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Foggy)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/500 "2015-09-03T16:50:46Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > Kink Imbecile? Is that, like, a guy who puts his ball gag on backwards? No, the Hood. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757.md?page=24) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757.md?page=26)