# Fuck you, Rowan County (KY) Clerk Kim Davis

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 13, 2015, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757 "2015-08-13T18:09:20Z")\
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**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/521 "2015-09-03T17:45:47Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> You’re kidding, right? Especially after my post to The Kink Imbecile, Elvis? Yeesh.

Ok, fine. My father was in the Marines for 4 years and didn’t go to war or kill anyone. There are thousands upon thousands of people in our armed forces who do not personally act to kill anybody.

OTOH, every single county clerk who has the responsibility to issue marriage licenses is going to be asked to issue SSM licenses. Every. fucking. one. of. them.

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**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/522 "2015-09-03T17:47:58Z")

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But I thought her immediate deputy was her son, who shared to views. How’s that going to work?

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**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/523 "2015-09-03T17:48:20Z")

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> [@Inner\_Stickler](#):
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> So what happens now? Does someone else issue licenses? Do they deliver a license to the cell every day and if she doesn’t sign it nothing happens? Can she say she’ll issue licenses and when they release her, double down on her religious stance?

She’s got deputies (who she’s refused to let issue licenses because the rubber stamp they use has her name on it). Last news I read said that the judge gave them until 1:45 pm (their time) to meet with the defense lawyers before the hearing continues. Presumably, the deputies either A) won’t be as retarded as the clerk or B) will be tossed in jail too.

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/524 "2015-09-03T17:57:19Z")

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> [@Fenris](#):
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> She’s got deputies (who she’s refused to let issue licenses because the rubber stamp they use has her name on it). Last news I read said that the judge gave them until 1:45 pm (their time) to meet with the defense lawyers before the hearing continues. Presumably, the deputies either A) won’t be as retarded as the clerk or B) will be tossed in jail too.

> [@](#):
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> 1:15 p.m.
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> A federal judge is warning deputy clerks in Kentucky that they must issue marriage licenses to gay couples or face fines or jail.
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> U.S. District Judge David Bunning already jailed Rowan County Clerk Kim Davis for refusing to comply with his order. She was led out of the courtroom by U.S. marshals on Thursday.
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> The judge gave the deputy clerks time to go meet with public defenders and said the hearing will resume at 1:45 p.m.

(from the article linked above - its rolling updates)

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/525 "2015-09-03T17:58:07Z")

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> [@simster](#):
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> jailed in contempt -
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> [http://www.lex18.com/story/29953141/rowan-co-clerk-jailed-in-contempt](http://www.lex18.com/story/29953141/rowan-co-clerk-jailed-in-contempt)

I sure hope her cellmate is gay, just for the irony.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/526 "2015-09-03T17:58:43Z")

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> [@elbows](#):
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> But I thought her immediate deputy was her son, who shared to views. How’s that going to work?

Her son is _a_ deputy clerk, but there are several of them. I don’t think there are superior and inferior ranks.

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**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/527 "2015-09-03T18:02:00Z")

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> [@elbows](#):
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> But I thought her immediate deputy was her son, who shared to views. How’s that going to work?

Arrest his ass, too. If we need to arrest the entire office, go right ahead! But it seems like at least some of them think she’s cray-cray.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/528 "2015-09-03T18:15:46Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> From what I’m reading, if the county clerk is “absent” from office, the authority to issue marriage licenses devolves unto the judge-executive of the county.
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> [I.e. this fellow.](http://www.kcjea.org/rowan.html)

[Slate confirms this](http://www.slate.com/blogs/outward/2015/09/03/kim_davis_anti_gay_kentucky_clerk_held_in_contempt_of_court.html):

> [@](#):
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> Under Kentucky law, a county’s judge executive may issue marriage licenses “in the absence of the county clerk.” Presuming Davis is jailed, then, the judge executive may step in to help the gay couples who faced the brunt of Davis’ discrimination.

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**Author:** ![Kelby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/a587f6/32.png) [@Kelby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kelby)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/529 "2015-09-03T18:19:21Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> I sure hope her cellmate is gay, just for the irony.

Which may lead to her becoming gay herself, at least according to Dr. Ben Carson.

The humanity!

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**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/530 "2015-09-03T18:25:29Z")

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I’m sure this has been shared already but:

[Defiant Kentucky clerk says he’s wiling to die for his right to tell LGBT people they’re going to Hell](http://www.rawstory.com/2015/08/defiant-kentucky-clerk-says-hes-wiling-to-die-for-his-right-to-tell-lgbt-people-theyre-going-to-hell/)

That’s the son, right?

Fucking Kentucky, man. Before this I didn’t particularly think of Kentucky one way or another. I thought our stupidest and craziest people were in Mississippi and Texas. Apparently Kentucky got jealous or something.

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/531 "2015-09-03T18:36:00Z")

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> [@Anaamika](#):
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> I’m sure this has been shared already but:
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> [Defiant Kentucky clerk says he’s wiling to die for his right to tell LGBT people they’re going to Hell](http://www.rawstory.com/2015/08/defiant-kentucky-clerk-says-hes-wiling-to-die-for-his-right-to-tell-lgbt-people-theyre-going-to-hell/)
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> That’s the son, right?.

No. He’s an unrelated county clerk from a different county who coincidentally has the same last name.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/532 "2015-09-03T18:36:27Z")

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> [@Anaamika](#):
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> That’s the son, right?

Different county, no relation, he claims she’s his “sister in Christ”.

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**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/533 "2015-09-03T18:40:12Z")

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Thank you both, and ugh!

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/534 "2015-09-03T18:44:35Z")

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> [@hajario](#):
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> No. He’s an unrelated county clerk from a different county who coincidentally has the same last name.

One never knows. In Kentucky, family trees don’t fork.

Let her stay in jail until she promises to do her job and/or her term expires and/or she gets removed from office.

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/535 "2015-09-03T18:53:32Z")

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> [@Fenris](#):
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> She’s got deputies (who she’s refused to let issue licenses because the rubber stamp they use has her name on it). Last news I read said that the judge gave them until 1:45 pm (their time) to meet with the defense lawyers before the hearing continues. Presumably, the deputies either A) won’t be as retarded as the clerk or B) will be tossed in jail too.

They will also be given the option to comply or go to jail.

> **[Kentucky clerk Kim Davis held in contempt for refusing to issue marriage...](https://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/09/03/1418078/-Kentucky-clerk-Kim-Davis-held-in-contempt-going-to-jail?detail=facebook)**
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> ...

In an earlier link it was stated that they were all interviewed and four said that they would stick with Kim, one said that he or she would issue licenses and one declined to state an opinion.

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**Author:** ![Emiliana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f0a364/32.png) [@Emiliana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Emiliana)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/536 "2015-09-03T18:57:02Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> Guess he also anticipated the deluge of donations she’d get if she were merely fined. Smart!

She’ll make a ton of money in any case. The memoir is undoubtedly already ghost written and the speaking tour planned.

Hell those pizza folks made a million just for pondering what they’d do if faced with pizza-wanting gay folk.

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**Author:** ![theR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/977dab/32.png) [@theR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/theR)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/537 "2015-09-03T18:58:25Z")

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> [@raventhief](#):
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> And let the martyrdom commence. She said thank you as she was sent to jail. This whole thing was planned. Now she suffers from religious persecution, the poor dear.

Except she is an agent of the government and she is the one doing the persecuting. I know those who agree with her won’t see it that way, but that is the reality.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/538 "2015-09-03T18:59:19Z")

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> [@Honey](#):
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> According to [this](http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2015/09/03/3698353/kim-daviss-deputies-reportedly-say-they-want-to-issue-marriage-licenses-but-are-too-afraid-of-davis/) article, the deputies have always wanted to issue the licenses, but were afraid of Kim Davis.

I hope they can figure out a way to charge for for ordering her staff to disobey the law.

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**Author:** ![Honey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/honey/32/5074_2.png) [@Honey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Honey)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/539 "2015-09-03T19:00:02Z")

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I hate those religious whack-a-doos saying that she’s being jailed for her beliefs. No, she’s being jailed for failure to comply with a court order.

I think she’ll resign in jail.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/540 "2015-09-03T19:00:03Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Different county, no relation, he claims she’s his “sister in Christ”.

So they’re just _spiritually_ incensual?

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