# Fuck you, Rowan County (KY) Clerk Kim Davis

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 13, 2015, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757 "2015-08-13T18:09:20Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/561 "2015-09-03T20:07:30Z")

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> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> [Here’s an interesting story](http://www.newser.com/story/212305/kim-davis-unwittingly-issued-transgender-marriage-license.html) about how Davis has already unknowingly issued a marriage license to a trangender couple. She issued the licence in February to a couple, one of whom had had gender reassignment surgery. Even though poth of them had birth certificates identifying them as female, Davis apparently didn’t notice. This was back at a time whe could have declined legally to issue the license.
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> So she’s also incompetent. Why does this not surprise me?

Ooops. So she’s going to Hell anyways. If Jesus can forgive her on this, why not on SSM licenses?

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/562 "2015-09-03T20:07:34Z")

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[She’s off to jail.](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/kim-davis-jail_55e883a9e4b0aec9f356807d?aedygb9)

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/563 "2015-09-03T20:08:32Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> IIt’s also fair to say that her job _did_ change, because it did. That is a fact. One day she was not to required to issue licenses to SS couples, the next day she was.

Still stuck thinking same-sex marriage is something different from normal-people marriage, I see. That’s the core of your bigotry and the reason for your continued misunderstanding of the problem here.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/564 "2015-09-03T20:08:55Z")

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**Miller** , psst: post 504.

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/565 "2015-09-03T20:09:11Z")

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> [@Alan\_Smithee](#):
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> The alternative was an ever-increasing fine that takes into account likely donations and future remuneration through speaker’s fees and book deals. The only downside is that bankrupting her for life doesn’t have the immediate, visceral appeal of making her spend the night in jail. Oh well.

The judge knew that she’s have people to pay the fine for her so it wouldn’t really be a punishment.

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> BTW, why is this case the cause célèbre right now, when other clerks in Kentucky, Alabama, and possibly Texas are also refusing to issue licenses. Why do we care more about Kim Davis than the rest of them?

This is so plainly obvious that I’m not sure if I’m not being whooshed. We care about all of them equally but this is the first one to progress so far in the court system.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/566 "2015-09-03T20:10:11Z")

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> [@Alan\_Smithee](#):
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> BTW, why is this case the cause célèbre right now, when other clerks in Kentucky, Alabama, and possibly Texas are also refusing to issue licenses. Why do we care more about Kim Davis than the rest of them?

Because her attorneys acted more quickly than those representing litigants in other states.

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**Author:** ![PeskiPiksi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e495f1/32.png) [@PeskiPiksi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PeskiPiksi)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/567 "2015-09-03T20:10:15Z")

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Speaking of her co-workers or subordinates or whatever they’re considered…check out this Twitter feed:

[https://twitter.com/nexttokimdavis?lang=en](https://twitter.com/nexttokimdavis?lang=en)

Some pretty funny stuff there.

“#KimDavis - DID GOD ORDER YOU NOT TO REFILL THE XEROX TRAY, TOO? GODDAMN IT SOME OF US ARE TRYING TO GO HOME TO OUR FIRST HUSBAND.”

“Hey, @andersoncooper - WE’RE OUT OF FUCKING CREAMER. YOUR GUYS GOT SOME IN THE TRUCK?”

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/568 "2015-09-03T20:11:59Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> It’s certainly fair to parse things that way. It’s also fair to say that her job _did_ change, because it did. That is a fact. One day she was not to required to issue licenses to SS couples, the next day she was.

Heck, one day she was writing “2014” on documents AND THE VERY NEXT DAY SHE HAD TO WRITE “2015” !!! 1!!! 1! 1

Well, it probably wasn’t the very next day, she probably took January first off, but you get the point. Or maybe you don’t. You’re pretty determinedly stupid.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/569 "2015-09-03T20:13:31Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> **Miller** , psst: post 504.

Curses!

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**Author:** ![Iggy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iggy/32/3364_2.png) [@Iggy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Iggy)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/570 "2015-09-03T20:22:06Z")

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> [@Voyager](#):
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> Issuing licenses to those who are legally allowed to marry is part of the job. She doesn’t get to second guess who falls into that category.  
> We know a guy who has been in the Air Force for ages working as a supply clerk. he has about as much chance of killing someone as I do. However, if something \*\*happened where he had to, he doesn’t get to object. \*\*  
> Not that he would. He’s a good Christian.

Sure he does. The United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights has dealt with exactly this matter.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/571 "2015-09-03T20:33:59Z")

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Davis has [doubled](http://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/local/2015/09/02/kentucky-clerk-kim-davis-contempt-gay-marriage/71573666/) down: the judge told her he would lift the contempt charges since her deputies have (mostly) agreed to start issuing licenses, but she refused to leave jail and declared (through her attorney) that “she does not authorize any employee to issue licenses in her absence.”

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/572 "2015-09-03T20:37:27Z")

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I didn’t know you _could_ refuse to leave jail.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/573 "2015-09-03T20:38:31Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> Davis has [doubled](http://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/local/2015/09/02/kentucky-clerk-kim-davis-contempt-gay-marriage/71573666/) down: the judge told her he would lift the contempt charges since her deputies have (mostly) agreed to start issuing licenses, but she refused to leave jail and declared (through her attorney) that “she does not authorize any employee to issue licenses in her absence.”

I found this quote by her attorney a little ironic, “I hope that everyone will remain civil. This country has always had disagreements, but what makes this country different from other countries is that we respect the rule of law.”

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/574 "2015-09-03T20:40:19Z")

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She’s been institutionalized by life on the inside.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/575 "2015-09-03T20:41:21Z")

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Bunning is the judge, not her attorney.

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/576 "2015-09-03T20:43:06Z")

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So - even tho the other clerks have said they will, and the judge has said licenses will be issued - She can “not authorize” it?

whats to stop them from issueing them “without” her authorization? what would be the next step there?

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/577 "2015-09-03T20:49:30Z")

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> [@simster](#):
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> So - even tho the other clerks have said they will, and the judge has said licenses will be issued - She can “not authorize” it?
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> whats to stop them from issueing them “without” her authorization? what would be the next step there?

She’ll hold her breath, stamp her feet and call on God to rain Holy Fire on the unfaithful.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/578 "2015-09-03T20:50:20Z")

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This just in: [Gays are disease-ridden polygamists!](http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/03/politics/kentucky-clerk-same-sex-marriage-kim-davis/)

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**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/579 "2015-09-03T20:50:21Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> I didn’t know you _could_ refuse to leave jail.

So, now they should bill her for room and board. She wastes the tax dollars spent on her salary and now she wants free housing and food? She should ask Jesus to house and feed her.

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**Author:** ![Club\_33](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/df705f/32.png) [@Club\_33](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Club_33)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2015, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/580 "2015-09-03T20:53:00Z")

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> [@YogSosoth](#):
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> Now that marriages can proceed without her, there’s no reason for me to ever see her face again.

If only we were so lucky. If this happens to be a slow news week, I expect her face to remain plastered front and center on every media outlet.

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