# Fuck you, Rowan County (KY) Clerk Kim Davis

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 13, 2015, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757 "2015-08-13T18:09:20Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Kimballkid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b5a626/32.png) [@Kimballkid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimballkid)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2015, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/41 "2015-08-14T19:14:47Z")

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I heard/read somewhere that county clerks in Kentucky are elected.

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**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2015, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/42 "2015-08-15T03:40:08Z")

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How many SDMB posters live in Rowan County, KY?

Zero

How many SDMB posters have loved ones in Rowan County, KY?

Zero

How many SDMB posters even know where Rowan County, Kentucky IS?

Zero

And yet, the Mundane and Pointless RO is going in full force. :smack:

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2015, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/43 "2015-08-15T03:43:42Z")

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> [@D\_Anconia](#):
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> How many SDMB posters live in Rowan County, KY?
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> Zero
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> How many SDMB posters have loved ones in Rowan County, KY?
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> Zero
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> How many SDMB posters even know where Rowan County, Kentucky IS?
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> Zero
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> And yet, the Mundane and Pointless RO is going in full force. :smack:

So ignoring the Constitution and the Supreme Court is OK?

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**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2015, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/44 "2015-08-15T03:52:26Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> So ignoring the Constitution and the Supreme Court is OK?

Did I say that?

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2015, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/45 "2015-08-15T03:59:43Z")

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> [@D\_Anconia](#):
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> Did I say that?

You obviously approve of her actions since you object to the publicity.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2015, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/46 "2015-08-15T04:03:26Z")

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> [@D\_Anconia](#):
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> How many SDMB posters live in Rowan County, KY?
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> Zero
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> How many SDMB posters have loved ones in Rowan County, KY?
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> Zero
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> How many SDMB posters even know where Rowan County, Kentucky IS?
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> Zero
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> And yet, the Mundane and Pointless RO is going in full force. :smack:

Wow. You just made…some point?

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**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2015, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/47 "2015-08-15T04:11:06Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> You obviously approve of her actions since you object to the publicity.

No, I don’t obviously, or otherwise, approve of anything of the sort.

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**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2015, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/48 "2015-08-15T04:13:25Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> Wow. You just made…some point?

What is the point of RO threads in the Pit?

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2015, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/49 "2015-08-15T04:54:58Z")

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> [@D\_Anconia](#):
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> What is the point of RO threads in the Pit?

To express outrage…

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2015, 7:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/50 "2015-08-15T07:20:22Z")

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**D’Anconia** , I invite you to look up and peruse the posting history of one **Carol Stream** , a late, and not widely lamented former Doper who, like you in this instance, occasionally felt compelled to appoint herself as the arbiter of that which is worthy of the BBQ Pit treatment.

I make no representation that such behavior led to the fact of her being a _former_ Doper; I bring her up simply as an illustration of someone who never did much of anything to make a visit to the board worthwhile.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2015, 10:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/51 "2015-08-15T10:51:06Z")

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> [@D\_Anconia](#):
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> What is the point of RO threads in the Pit?

> [@Snarky\_Kong](#):
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> To express outrage…

In a recreational manner!

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**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2015, 12:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/52 "2015-08-15T12:02:58Z")

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> [@MsRobyn](#):
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> Some right-wingers will start a Go Fund Me to raise the money to pay her fines. Or some organization will write the check for her. There’s no way she can lose because either she becomes a martyr for the cause by going to jail, or she won’t have to pay any fines out of her own pocket and she’ll still be a martyr for the cause and allow her contributors to feel good about themselves.
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> The only way she can possibly lose is if she’s removed from office and barred from holding any other elected or civil service position.

Tax law question - if she receives money from Go Fund Me, is that income? Would she have to pay taxes on it? It wouldn’t be the same as carrying the full freight of the fine, but it would at least be something.

Although I’m guessing it would be the same as getting an inheritance, and not taxable to the recipient.

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**Author:** ![HeXen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@HeXen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HeXen)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2015, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/53 "2015-08-15T12:05:12Z")

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Go to another county, find another clerk. the solution to a problem did have a simple solution despite everything else since marriage itself is the end goal but it appears the end goal was really to be a drama queen.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2015, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/54 "2015-08-15T12:09:53Z")

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It does not matter to me if this particular clerk, or any other similar clerk receives glory as a martyr or a million bucks in donations. I really don’t care about that. What I would like to see is simply: Evil clerk loses job and is replaced by a good clerk who will issue licenses.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2015, 12:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/55 "2015-08-15T12:19:27Z")

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> [@HeXen](#):
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> Go to another county, find another clerk. the solution to a problem did have a simple solution despite everything else since marriage itself is the end goal but it appears the end goal was really to be a drama queen.

Maybe someone could publish a Green Book for [del]Negro Motorists[/del] Gay Document Requesters.

IOW, fuck that noise.

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**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2015, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/56 "2015-08-15T12:51:54Z")

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> [@HeXen](#):
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> Go to another county, find another clerk. the solution to a problem did have a simple solution despite everything else since marriage itself is the end goal but it appears the end goal was really to be a drama queen.

And if I don’t have any transport to the next county seat? A quick check makes it seem like at least a round-trip of an hour to the next county seat. And how do I know that the clerk at the next county over is issuing same-sex licenses?

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2015, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/57 "2015-08-15T12:57:41Z")

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> [@Folacin](#):
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> And if I don’t have any transport to the next county seat? A quick check makes it seem like at least a round-trip of an hour to the next county seat. And how do I know that the clerk at the next county over is issuing same-sex licenses?

And what if you just don’t want to? Same-sex marriage is the _supreme law of the land_ now. It’s no longer something that requires explanation, argument, evasion, or permission. Every last public official in the country made a binding oath, irrevocable during their time in office, that now requires them to treat same-sex couples equally.

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**Author:** ![Human\_Action](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@Human\_Action](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Human_Action)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2015, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/58 "2015-08-15T15:37:20Z")

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> [@D\_Anconia](#):
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> How many SDMB posters even know where Rowan County, Kentucky IS?
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> Zero
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> And yet, the Mundane and Pointless RO is going in full force. :smack:

I do, I do! I’ve been there on several occasions, mostly to attend events at Morehead State University.

Am I allowed to oppose criminal activity there now? Need answer fast.

> [@HeXen](#):
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> Go to another county, find another clerk. the solution to a problem did have a simple solution despite everything else since marriage itself is the end goal but it appears the end goal was really to be a drama queen.

We don’t let county clerks violate the law, or decide what the law is. That’s a bit above their pay grade.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2015, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/59 "2015-08-15T16:23:16Z")

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> [@D\_Anconia](#):
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> How many SDMB posters live in Rowan County, KY?
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> Zero
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> How many SDMB posters have loved ones in Rowan County, KY?
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> Zero
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> How many SDMB posters even know where Rowan County, Kentucky IS?
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> Zero
> 
> And yet, the Mundane and Pointless RO is going in full force. :smack:

Asshole. If you can’t join in on the outrage, at least post something worthwhile. Otherwise just shut the fuck up and crawl back under your rock.

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2015, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/60 "2015-08-15T16:57:55Z")

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> [@BubbaDog](#):
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> I don’t disagree with you but there’s more to it than just Kim Davis. There appears to be a whole county government structure that is backing her up.
> 
> The big question is why doesn’t her boss (County Supervisor?) take action and remove an employee who refuses to do her job?
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> She’s not an elected official. She has a chain of command to report to and apparently that chain of command is a whole list of people who are hiding behind her as she does the dirty work.
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> If I was the judge I’d be going after the whole lot of them.

This. Kinda. I view this as 1) an internal matter and 2) one in which the person ultimately in charge is responsible. So, let the courts go to her boss, or her boss’s boss, and tell them that the person in that potion needs to be able to fulfill her duties ion accordance with the laws. Then the “boss” can either fire her or move her to another role where her duties do not conflict with her religious beliefs.

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