# Fuck you, Rowan County (KY) Clerk Kim Davis **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 13, 2015, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757 "2015-08-13T18:09:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 33
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2015, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/641 "2015-09-04T13:26:43Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > There are six deputy clerks who are employees. They are not elected. It’s like the District Attorney and the ADAs. > > Do you honestly think that these actual six deputies are somehow made up and every news article is incorrect and that the six real people who faced the judge are only one or two people and the rest are made up and it’s some elaborate cover up for god knows what? Or just maybe there are really six deputies. Perhaps I wasn’t clear. In the county where I work, there is one Deputy Clerk. They would step in if the Clerk gets hit by a bus. Everyone else in the department are ‘staff/administration’ I think the use of the word Deputy Clerk applied to all of them is either something quaint in that particular office, or the term is being used wrong by the media. And us. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2015, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/642 "2015-09-04T13:57:25Z")
> [@UltraVires](#): > > … > Jailing her serves no purpose. The law abiding citizens who will receive their licenses as a direct result of this jailing might disagree with that. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2015, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/643 "2015-09-04T13:57:37Z")
I feel bad for her in a way. She hates gays so much, nobody will style her hair. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2015, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/644 "2015-09-04T13:59:56Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > Perhaps I wasn’t clear. In the county where I work, there is one Deputy Clerk. They would step in if the Clerk gets hit by a bus. Everyone else in the department are ‘staff/administration’ > > I think the use of the word Deputy Clerk applied to all of them is either something quaint in that particular office, or the term is being used wrong by the media. And us. It’s more likely that your locality is the one with the quaint usage. Deputy Clerk is - at least in the South - the title generally used by anyone who can issue or certify a document under the clerk’s authority. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2015, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/645 "2015-09-04T14:01:10Z")
If she wants to be a martyr so much, take her out back and stone her for adultery. Win-win. ---
**Author:** ![doreen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/858c86/32.png) [@doreen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doreen)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2015, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/646 "2015-09-04T14:21:13Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > It’s more likely that your locality is the one with the quaint usage. Deputy Clerk is - at least in the South - the title generally used by anyone who can issue or certify a document under the clerk’s authority. And “deputy” in general is often used that way - a “deputy sheriff” is the person in the patrol car, and "deputy district attorney " is used in the same way that “assistant district attorney” is used in other places. Neither of those are resricted to the second-in-command- different titles are used for that position, such as “undersheriff” or “chief deputy” or “first deputy”. The difference is that the sheriff and district attorney generally have administrative/clerical employees who are not their deputies and due to the nature of the job that may not be the case in a relatively small clerk’s office. ---
**Author:** ![StarvingButStrong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/starvingbutstrong/32/335_2.png) [@StarvingButStrong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StarvingButStrong)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2015, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/647 "2015-09-04T14:34:10Z")
This is totally shallow of me, but her hair grosses me out. Couldn’t she at least braid it or tie it back into a pony tail or something? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2015, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/648 "2015-09-04T14:44:45Z")
> [@StarvingButStrong](#): > > This is totally shallow of me, but her hair grosses me out. Couldn’t she at least braid it or tie it back into a pony tail or something? [From here.](http://www.theapostolicwayupcff.com/page/holiness_12744) > [@](#): > > Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair I will presume that she interprets plaiting as any kind of hair restraint or binding. ---
**Author:** ![Human\_Action](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@Human\_Action](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Human_Action)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2015, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/649 "2015-09-04T14:45:43Z")
Also, bigotry based on sexual orientation and bigotry based on the state one was born or resides in are both wrong. There’s no real difference between “Gays are diseased perverts!” and “Kentuckians are incestuous hillbillies!”. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2015, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/650 "2015-09-04T14:47:07Z")
Well, one is accurate. 😉 And nobody is suggesting we should take away Kentuckians’ civil rights. ---
**Author:** ![Honey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/honey/32/5074_2.png) [@Honey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Honey)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2015, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/651 "2015-09-04T14:55:10Z")
> [@running coach](#): > > I will presume that she interprets plaiting as any kind of hair restraint or binding. Even the Duggar girls use barretts. > [@StarvingButStrong](#): > > This is totally shallow of me, but her hair grosses me out. Couldn’t she at least braid it or tie it back into a pony tail or something? Yeah, just imagine her cooking dinner, with her hair hanging down like that. :gag: ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2015, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/652 "2015-09-04T15:07:29Z")
> [@Human\_Action](#): > > There’s no real difference between “Gays are diseased perverts!” and “Kentuckians are incestuous hillbillies!”. RNATB is correct. Until there’s a national movement to deny marriage certificates to Kentuckians, there IS a real difference. And I say this as someone who thinks anyone spouting off about Kentuckians is an ignorant asshole. ---
**Author:** ![Human\_Action](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@Human\_Action](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Human_Action)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2015, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/653 "2015-09-04T15:11:28Z")
That difference isn’t in the message, though, but rather the cultural context. The messages are equally bigoted, with the same purpose: dehumanizing a group of people to make them easier to hate. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2015, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/654 "2015-09-04T15:13:42Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > I feel bad for her in a way. She hates gays so much, nobody will style her hair. Let’s go to the quarry and throw stuff down there! ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2015, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/655 "2015-09-04T15:15:56Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > RNATB is correct. Until there’s a national movement to deny marriage certificates to Kentuckians, there IS a real difference. And I say this as someone who thinks anyone spouting off about Kentuckians is an ignorant asshole. > [@Human\_Action](#): > > That difference isn’t in the message, though, but rather the cultural context. The messages are equally bigoted, with the same purpose: dehumanizing a group of people to make them easier to hate. I agree. I don’t think it’s necessary to make generalizations about Kentuckians. Hell, I don’t think it’s necessary to discuss Davis’ ugly hair or even her personal moral failings. It all just detracts from the real story. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2015, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/656 "2015-09-04T15:16:51Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > I agree. I don’t think it’s necessary to make generalizations about Kentuckians. Hell, I don’t think it’s necessary to discuss Davis’ ugly hair or even her personal moral failings. It all just detracts from the real story. Can we discuss her religion? ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2015, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/657 "2015-09-04T15:21:16Z")
Sure. But it’s really not relevant from a legal perspective. Nobody is going to argue that she doesn’t sincerely believe in this nonsense, and it doesn’t matter whether it’s internally inconsistent. ---
**Author:** ![Ulf\_the\_Unwashed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Ulf\_the\_Unwashed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ulf_the_Unwashed)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2015, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/658 "2015-09-04T15:22:17Z")
Yes, of course we can. She sure is a great advertisement for Christianity, isn’t she? –Ulf, Sunday school teacher, former choir member, longtime clerk of the vestry, etc. etc. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2015, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/659 "2015-09-04T15:24:56Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Sure. But it’s really not relevant from a legal perspective. Nobody is going to argue that she doesn’t sincerely believe in this nonsense, and it doesn’t matter whether it’s internally inconsistent. I have a hard time believing she “really believes in this nonsense.” I haven’t paid too much attention to her actual religious claims, but I’m skeptical that she honestly believes her god cares if she does her damn job. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2015, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/660 "2015-09-04T15:27:03Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > [From here.](http://www.theapostolicwayupcff.com/page/holiness_12744) > I will presume that she interprets plaiting as any kind of hair restraint or binding. She uses a barrette to pull back the front. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757.md?page=32) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757.md?page=34)