# Fuck you, Rowan County (KY) Clerk Kim Davis **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 13, 2015, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757 "2015-08-13T18:09:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 35
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2015, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/681 "2015-09-04T19:02:23Z")
> [@UltraVires](#): > > ETA: What if she fires all of her deputies? What if they show up for work today with pink slips in their inboxes? What if she closes her office today? Did the judge address any of this? Yes, he said that would not be happening. Last week, the office shut down for a day “for computer updates”, and the judge said nothing like that would be happening again. ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2015, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/682 "2015-09-04T19:03:54Z")
> [@Katriona](#): > > Still scratching my head of this one: > > [x.com](https://twitter.com/eyderp/status/639769661291253760) > > “We don’t hate these people… We just wanna have the same rights that they have,” Joe Davis says about Gay couples. #KimDavis I think he messed up. I think he meant to say “We don’t hate these people. …We just don’t want them to have the same rights as us.” ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2015, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/683 "2015-09-04T19:08:20Z")
> [@raventhief](#): > > I think he messed up. I think he meant to say “We don’t hate these people. …We just don’t want them to have the same rights as us.” I think it’s more “We don’t hate these people, we just enjoy the thought of them burning in Hell for eternity.” ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2015, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/684 "2015-09-04T19:41:14Z")
> [@Anaamika](#): > > . . . I want to carry around a magic marker to the grocery store sometime. Apple’s my ass. . . . That should have been written with quote marks and a comma. (And…Gaudere’s Law! I made four different typos in the course of composing this post! :o ) (Also…agreement! I laugh at the drug store with the big sign that says “Drug’s.” I also get a big grin out of “Don Jose Mexican Food.” My goodness, Jose, what a strange last name you have! How is Mrs. Mexican Food, and all the little Mexican Foods?) ---
**Author:** ![Suburban\_Plankton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suburban_plankton/32/219_2.png) [@Suburban\_Plankton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suburban_Plankton)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2015, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/685 "2015-09-04T19:55:50Z")
> [@Anaamika](#): > > I normally don’t say anything, but that one really got my goat! It was like four times in one post and I tried to be nice about it. I admit misused apostrophes drive me batty. How do you stand on “would of/could of/should of”? We could use some serious help there, too… ---
**Author:** ![Raygun99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Raygun99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raygun99)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2015, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/686 "2015-09-04T20:02:22Z")
> [@Katriona](#): > > Still scratching my head of this one: > > [x.com](https://twitter.com/eyderp/status/639769661291253760) > > “We don’t hate these people… We just wanna have the same rights that they have,” Joe Davis says about Gay couples. #KimDavis He shouldn’t worry - he can still marry someone of the same sex - oh wait, he doesn’t want to? FUNNY HOW THAT WORKS. ---
**Author:** ![Ulf\_the\_Unwashed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Ulf\_the\_Unwashed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ulf_the_Unwashed)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2015, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/687 "2015-09-04T20:12:03Z")
> [@Suburban\_Plankton](#): > > How do you stand on “would of/could of/should of”? We could use some serious help there, too… Well, we _could of_ used that help. But I would of said we got it under control now, thx. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2015, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/688 "2015-09-04T20:33:42Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > No you stupid baboon… That’s insulting. To baboons. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2015, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/689 "2015-09-04T20:37:52Z")
And… [http://news.yahoo.com/gay-couples-try-wed-defiant-clerk-sits-jail-082850785.html](http://news.yahoo.com/gay-couples-try-wed-defiant-clerk-sits-jail-082850785.html) Her attorney is claiming that the licenses issued by her people without her consent are invalid. Which to my mind, is just more Contempt of Court. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2015, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/690 "2015-09-04T20:47:08Z")
Her attorney isn’t licensed to practice law in Kentucky, so we can safely ignore his opinions about the enforceability of a marriage license. ETA: Or give it no more weight than mine, since I am just as qualified to opine on this issue as he is. It is _something_ of a concern, though. The worry would not be that the marriage won’t count, but that one of the partners’ families might try to claim their marriage was never valid when time comes to distribute the estate or somesuch. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2015, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/691 "2015-09-04T21:07:22Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > And… > > [http://news.yahoo.com/gay-couples-try-wed-defiant-clerk-sits-jail-082850785.html](http://news.yahoo.com/gay-couples-try-wed-defiant-clerk-sits-jail-082850785.html) > > Her attorney is claiming that the licenses issued by her people without her consent are invalid. > > Which to my mind, is just more Contempt of Court. No, it’s not. Judge Bunning specifically declined to rule on the issue of the validity of those licenses. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2015, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/692 "2015-09-04T21:11:32Z")
> [@Anaamika](#): > > I normally don’t say anything, but that one really got my goat! It was like four times in one post and I tried to be nice about it. I admit misused apostrophes drive me batty. > I remember reading a post long ago about this fellow who tried to quit smoking. He made himself a sign. The sign had a grammatical mistake. > He said that watching his girlfriend freak at the mistake over and over again was more than enough entertainment to distract him from smoking. That is totally me - I want to carry around a magic marker to the grocery store sometime. Apple’s my ass. Did I ever tell you about the time that one of the managers where I used to work let us know that one of her employees was going to be absent but sending an email that said, “Charle’s will be out today.”? ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2015, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/693 "2015-09-04T21:50:37Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > Most of the Repliopathidates came out squarely in favor of Jesus and Kim Davis and against sodomy, but Jeb! is hedging his bets. **He thinks the gays should be allowed to marry wherever they want AND Kim Davis should be allowed to refuse their marriage.** Deep thinking isn’t a strong suit for the Bush family. Rowan County, KY: Where the irresistible cannonball meets the immovable post. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2015, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/694 "2015-09-04T22:24:51Z")
A bit more detail on some points that have already been mentioned in various posts above: [Jailed clerk’s attorney: Marriage licenses for gays are void](http://news.yahoo.com/gay-couples-try-wed-defiant-clerk-sits-jail-082850785.html#), AP (as re-printed on Yahoo), Sept. 4. Yes, it is all about who has the power. God has the power, by God! > [@](#): > > Davis husband, Joe Davis, also came to the courthouse Friday, holding a sign saying “Welcome to Sodom and Gomorrah.” > > He said his wife was in good spirits after her first night in jail. Asked if she would resign, he said, “Oh, God no. She’s not going to resign at all. It’s a matter of telling Bunning he ain’t the boss.” (OMG, have we an apostrophe error in there somewhere?) Yes, Judge Bunning did say ixnay on the shenanigans. > [@](#): > > Davis’ son, who said he supports his mother, was warned by the judge Thursday not to interfere with his fellow employees. The judge said he did not want “any shenanigans,” such as closing the office for computer upgrades as they did briefly last week. > > “That would show a level of disrespect for the court’s order,” Bunning said. “I’m hoping that cooler heads will prevail.” (Have we a different apostrophe error this time? Make up your mind!) The licenses are being issued with _no_ signature on them. Even the County Attorney says they are valid, but Bunning himself isn’t sure. > [@](#): > > At least three gay couples received marriage licenses Friday from one of Davis’ deputies, embracing and celebrating after repeatedly being turned away before Davis was jailed on Thursday. Their attorneys, along with Rowan County Attorney Cecil Watkins, said the licenses are valid. Bunning said Thursday he did not know if the licenses were valid but ordered them to be issued anyway. > > Marriage licenses in Kentucky usually have the elected clerk’s signature on them; those handed out Friday lacked any signature. The Rowan County attorney and lawyers for the gay couples said they are legal and valid nevertheless. When the judge was asked if the licenses will be considered valid without Davis’ authorization, he said it was up to the gay couples to take that chance. (All right, what’s the correct possessive of Davis already? Is it Davis’ or Davis’s?) ---
**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2015, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/695 "2015-09-04T22:33:45Z")
Her attorney has compared her jailtime and communications from her cell to MLK and his letter from Birmingham. _“She’s not going to resign, she’s not going to sacrifice her conscience, so she’s doing what Martin Luther King Jr. wrote about in his Letter from the Birmingham Jail, which is to pay the consequences for her decision,” Staver said._ Boy, she really thinks highly of herself. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2015, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/696 "2015-09-04T22:36:58Z")
When the original word ends in an “s”, 2 apostrophes are necessary: Davis’’ While I’m here, fuck that donkey fart of an excuse of a woman. Hooray! Licenses are being issued! ---
**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2015, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/697 "2015-09-04T22:38:58Z")
> [@Senegoid](#): > > (All right, what’s the correct possessive of Davis already? Is it Davis’ or Davis’s?) _Davis’s_ is correct. Proper names ending in S form the possessive with an apostrophe-s. Traditionally, an exception is made for Jesus and names from mythology such as Hercules or Zeus, which take an apostrophe only. This usage may be falling by the wayside, though, in favor of consistently using apostrophe-s for all proper names. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2015, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/698 "2015-09-04T22:39:15Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > When the original word ends in an “s”, 2 apostrophes are necessary: Davis’’ Unless it ends in two of them in which case you add an additional apostrophe. Such as: Ross’‘’ ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2015, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/699 "2015-09-04T22:40:49Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > When the original word ends in an “s”, 2 apostrophes are necessary: Davis’’ > > While I’m here, fuck that donkey fart of an excuse of a woman. Hooray! Licenses are being issued! what if it ends in multiple s’s’ss’s’s? amiss’‘’’ ??? ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2015, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/700 "2015-09-04T22:42:54Z")
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