# Fuck you, Rowan County (KY) Clerk Kim Davis **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 13, 2015, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757 "2015-08-13T18:09:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 38
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2015, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/741 "2015-09-05T16:58:29Z")
> [@Ulf\_the\_Unwashed](#): > > Bolding mine. > > “Try and [infinitive verb],” a phrase which appears/appeared in the writing and speech of many well-respected authors such as Dickens, Lawrence, and Hemingway, is not the problem in this sentence. You might try and look at the bolded part again in hopes of discovering the \*real \*flaw. 🙂 When they used it, was it a character speaking? That would make sense. I not seeing the problem with the bolded part. 😉 :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2015, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/742 "2015-09-05T17:08:30Z")
> [@simster](#): > > what if it ends in multiple s’s’ss’s’s? > > amiss’‘’’ ??? 'Depends on whether Miss is gay or not, ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2015, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/743 "2015-09-05T17:23:51Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > Actually, it’s “would have/could have/should have”. And _I’ll / we’ll_ are _I will / we will_. What’s your point? ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2015, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/744 "2015-09-05T17:43:39Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > And _I’ll / we’ll_ are _I will / we will_. What’s your point? That the " 've " is a contraction for “have”, not “of”. That’s all. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2015, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/745 "2015-09-05T17:47:50Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > Correct. She can be removed by: > > 1. Impeachment by the legislature. > 2. Resignation. > 3. Death. > 4. The end of her term and not winning the next election. Stop impinging on her god given constitutional rights. Give her a cell phone with a camera/vid function, in accordance with the first amendment. Giver her a gun an ammunition, in accordance with the second amendment. Then just sit back and wait for her to deleon the mater by smith-and-wessoning herself. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2015, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/746 "2015-09-05T18:42:01Z")
[US News and World Report](http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2015/09/01/kentucky-clerk-fighting-gay-marriage-has-wed-four-times) > [@](#): > > Kentucky Clerk Fighting Gay Marriage Has Wed Four Times > . . . . > > Rowan County Clerk Kim Davis divorced three times, first in 1994, then 2006 and again in 2008. > > She gave birth to twins five months after divorcing her first husband. They were fathered by her third husband but adopted by her second. Davis worked at the clerk’s office at the time of each divorce and has since remarried. > > . . . > > The leader of the organization providing her legal representation, Mat Staver of Liberty Counsel . . . says “it’s not really relevant, it’s something that happened in her past” and that her conversion to Christianity about four years ago wiped her slate clean. “It’s something that’s not relevant to the issue at hand,” he says. “She was 180 degrees changed.” ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2015, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/747 "2015-09-05T19:22:39Z")
Glad I’m an atheist, for that Christian clap-trap sure is hateful, and it’s adherents hypocritical. It really comes down to religion being used to cloak personal preferences in a flag of supposed-legitimacy. Pity that the adulterous clerk and her bastard employee son are Christians, for according to their bible, she should be executed and go to hell, and he should go to hell. You should ignore the rest of this post – it’s just cites for the nutters who dispute the above. **The Bible on divorce and adultery:** > [@](#): > > Exodus 20:14 and Deuteronomy 5:18 You shall not commit adultery. > [@](#): > > Matthew 19:3-9 Some Pharisees came to him to test him. They asked, “Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife for any and every reason?” “Haven’t you read,” he replied, "that at the beginning the Creator 'made them male and female,5 and said, 'For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh? 6 So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate."7 “Why then,” they asked, "did Moses command that a man give his wife a certificate of divorce and send her away?"8 Jesus replied, "Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because your hearts were hard. But it was not this way from the beginning. 9 I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery. > [@](#): > > Mark 10:2-12 Some Pharisees came and tested him by asking, “Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife?” “What did Moses command you?” he replied.4 They said, "Moses permitted a man to write a certificate of divorce and send her away."5 “It was because your hearts were hard that Moses wrote you this law,” Jesus replied. 6 "But at the beginning of creation God ‘made them male and female.’ 7 'For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, 8 and the two will become one flesh.So they are no longer two, but one flesh. 9 Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate."10 When they were in the house again, the disciples asked Jesus about this. 11 He answered, "Anyone who divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery against her. 12 And if she divorces her husband and marries another man, she commits adultery” > [@](#): > > Luke 16:18 Anyone who divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery, and the man who marries a divorced woman commits adultery. > [@](#): > > Romans 7:2-3 For example, by law a married woman is bound to her husband as long as he is alive, but if her husband dies, she is released from the law that binds her to him. 3 So then if she marries another man while her husband is still alive, she is called an adultress. But if her husband dies, she is released from that law, and is not an adultress, even though she marries another man. **The Bible on punishment for adultery:** > [@](#): > > Leviticus 20:10 If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. > [@](#): > > Deuteronomy 22:22 If a man is found lying with the wife of another man, both of them shall die, the man who lay with the woman, and the woman. So you shall purge the evil from Israel. > [@](#): > > Hebrews 13:4 Let marriage be held in honor among all, and let the marriage bed be undefiled, for God will judge the sexually immoral and adulterous. > [@](#): > > 1 Corinthians 6:9 Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality > [@](#): > > Leviticus 20:13 If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them. > [@](#): > > Romans 7:1-3 Or do you not know, brothers—for I am speaking to those who know the law—that the law is binding on a person only as long as he lives? For a married woman is bound by law to her husband while he lives, but if her husband dies she is released from the law of marriage. Accordingly, she will be called an adulteress if she lives with another man while her husband is alive. But if her husband dies, she is free from that law, and if she marries another man she is not an adulteress. > [@](#): > > Romans 13:9 “You shall not commit adultery.” **The Bible on children born out of wedlock:** > [@](#): > > Deuteronomy 23:2 - A bastard shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD; even to his tenth generation shall he not enter into the congregation of the LORD. ---
**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2015, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/748 "2015-09-05T19:42:02Z")
Christians can be fine people if they don’t take every word of the Bible literally. Even the ones who do actually pick & choose. They tend to pick the most narrow-minded bits of the Old Testament while ignoring most of what Jesus said… ---
**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2015, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/749 "2015-09-05T19:58:11Z")
Even if she is saved or reborn, what’s Christian about judging someone because they sin differently than you? Why don’t those being married have the potential to be “saved” or “reborn” like her, and have the slate wiped clean, at some future date? And, are those that signed her prior marriage licenses in danger of their mortal souls by contributing to her adulterous unChristian marriages? ---
**Author:** ![theR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/977dab/32.png) [@theR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/theR)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2015, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/750 "2015-09-05T20:23:08Z")
> [@elbows](#): > > Even if she is saved or reborn, what’s Christian about judging someone because they sin differently than you? > > Why don’t those being married have the potential to be “saved” or “reborn” like her, and have the slate wiped clean, at some future date? > > And, are those that signed her prior marriage licenses in danger of their mortal souls by contributing to her adulterous unChristian marriages? I think the claim that she just converted to Christianity four years ago is pretty amusing. You know what she used to be? A [Baptist](https://www.thestranger.com/blogs/slog/2015/09/04/22812510/the-federalist-baptists-arent-christians). So she converted from Christianity to Christianity, making her not responsible for what she did the first time she was Christian. That said, it doesn’t matter. She is trying to enforce her religion on others illegally. I don’t give a fuck how much of a hypocrite she is. If she was true to her particularly version of Christianity for every second of her existence it wouldn’t matter. She still shouldn’t be imposing her beliefs on others who are trying to exercise their legal rights to marry. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2015, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/751 "2015-09-05T20:32:54Z")
> [@theR](#): > > I think the claim that she just converted to Christianity four years ago is pretty amusing. You know what she used to be? A [Baptist](https://www.thestranger.com/blogs/slog/2015/09/04/22812510/the-federalist-baptists-arent-christians). So she converted from Christianity to Christianity, making her not responsible for what she did the first time she was Christian. > > That said, it doesn’t matter. She is trying to enforce her religion on others illegally. I don’t give a fuck how much of a hypocrite she is. If she was true to her particularly version of Christianity for every second of her existence it wouldn’t matter. She still shouldn’t be imposing her beliefs on others who are trying to exercise their legal rights to marry. You win the thread with that Baptist cite. 😃 She’s confined behind jail bars of irony. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2015, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/752 "2015-09-05T20:46:18Z")
Well now, Mathew Staver, the attorney for Kim Davis, has shown us all what a charming fellow he is: > [@](#): > > Back in the 1930s, it began with the Jews, where they were evicted from public employment, then boycotted in their private employment, then stigmatized and that led to the gas chambers. This is the new persecution of Christians here in this country. [Link to the audio here.](http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/kim-davis-lawyer-invokes-nazi-gas-chambers-warns-massive-persecution) Oh well, looks like you’re on to our plan Mat. That’s what all us homos have been after all this time. We’ve just been itching to lock all the Christians up in camps and kill them. What a dick. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mighty\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Girl)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2015, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/753 "2015-09-05T21:41:07Z")
> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#): > > Well now, Mathew Staver, the attorney for Kim Davis, has shown us all what a charming fellow he is: > [Link to the audio here.](http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/kim-davis-lawyer-invokes-nazi-gas-chambers-warns-massive-persecution) > > Oh well, looks like you’re on to our plan Mat. That’s what all us homos have been after all this time. We’ve just been itching to lock all the Christians up in camps and kill them. > > What a dick. Good news for her, I hear stripes are slimming. ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2015, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/754 "2015-09-05T21:49:49Z")
[“FREE KIM DAVIS! FREE KIM DAVIS! FREE KIM DAVIS!”](http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/09/05/437831610/kim-davis-supporters-rally-in-front-of-detention-center) The rallying starts. ---
**Author:** ![Fubaya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@Fubaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fubaya)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2015, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/755 "2015-09-05T23:38:54Z")
> [@theR](#): > > I think the claim that she just converted to Christianity four years ago is pretty amusing. You know what she used to be? A [Baptist](https://www.thestranger.com/blogs/slog/2015/09/04/22812510/the-federalist-baptists-arent-christians). I dunno, it seems they’re basing that on the fact that her first three marriages were held in Baptist churches. I don’t think that means much. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2015, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/756 "2015-09-05T23:42:00Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > Also, I have a well educated friend who is always using the structure, “I going to try and make it”. Let’s try “…try to make it”, shall we? [Almost all disparaging criticism of “try and” comes from American critics; British commentators have generally been tolerant. There appears to be no rational basis for hostility to the expression and no need to avoid it in appropriate surroundings.](http://www.dailywritingtips.com/try-to-vs-try-and/) ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2015, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/757 "2015-09-05T23:45:45Z")
[Westboro Baptist blames Kim Davis for gay marriage.](http://www.advocate.com/religion/2015/09/04/westboro-baptist-joins-anti-kim-davis-bandwagon-reason-may-surprise-you) ---
**Author:** ![theR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/977dab/32.png) [@theR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/theR)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2015, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/758 "2015-09-05T23:50:27Z")
> [@Fubaya](#): > > I dunno, it seems they’re basing that on the fact that her first three marriages were held in Baptist churches. I don’t think that means much. You are correct that it doesn’t show whether she was actually Baptist, but like I said, it doesn’t actually matter. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2015, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/759 "2015-09-06T00:18:00Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > [Westboro Baptist blames Kim Davis for gay marriage.](http://www.advocate.com/religion/2015/09/04/westboro-baptist-joins-anti-kim-davis-bandwagon-reason-may-surprise-you) But of course. The crazy is strong in them! ---
**Author:** ![Fubaya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@Fubaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fubaya)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2015, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/760 "2015-09-06T01:07:52Z")
> [@theR](#): > > You are correct that it doesn’t show whether she was actually Baptist, but like I said, it doesn’t actually matter. Yeah, whether or not she was Baptist, she did have 3 Baptist weddings where she swore a bunch of stuff to God that she didn’t uphold. I say we stone her. Or maybe just get her stoned so she’ll chill the fuck out already. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757.md?page=37) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757.md?page=39)