# Fuck you, Rowan County (KY) Clerk Kim Davis **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 13, 2015, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757 "2015-08-13T18:09:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 40
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2015, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/781 "2015-09-07T04:19:17Z")
Point online I read that struck me (sorry if already discussed): a county clerk’s job encompasses a LOT of fairly important approvals, not just marriage licenses. Are marriages the ONLY part of the duty that conservatives think should be up to the discretion of the clerk’s religion? ---
**Author:** ![suranyi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@suranyi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/suranyi)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2015, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/782 "2015-09-07T04:19:25Z")
> [@Derleth](#): > > I’m on the edge of creating a GQ thread, but what the Hell: Why would you need an official copy of your marriage license? In what circumstances would it be required? I just needed one a few weeks ago, as a matter of fact. As proof my wife was eligible to join my company’s health insurance plan under my policy. ---
**Author:** ![suranyi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@suranyi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/suranyi)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2015, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/783 "2015-09-07T04:24:39Z")
> [@Honey](#): > > A marriage license and a marriage certificate are 2 different things. You need a marriage license to get married, after the ceremony the officiant files a marriage certificate with the county within a few days. A certified copy of the marriage certificate is sent to the couple a few weeks after the ceremony. > > Having just the license doesn’t prove you ever got married, only the certificate does that. That’s true, but to get a marriage certificate you have to get a marriage license. In fact, in California they are the same form, except that the certificate has a few more fields filled out. Like the date of the wedding and the name of the officiant. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2015, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/784 "2015-09-07T04:26:56Z")
> [@suranyi](#): > > I just needed one a few weeks ago, as a matter of fact. As proof my wife was eligible to join my company’s health insurance plan under my policy. Wow. I’ve never had to prove anything regarding my wife or kids. Good thing too, I have no idea if I still have it. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2015, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/785 "2015-09-07T04:49:14Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > Wow. I’ve never had to prove anything regarding my wife or kids. Good thing too, I have no idea if I still have it. Usually (barring a situation such as mentioned in my last post) it’s rather easy to get one. You contact the records office for the state or county in which you got married. Services such as [this one](https://www.vitalchek.com/) make that easier. ---
**Author:** ![DMC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dmc/32/18049_2.png) [@DMC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMC)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2015, 7:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/786 "2015-09-07T07:33:12Z")
> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#): > > [“FREE KIM DAVIS! FREE KIM DAVIS! FREE KIM DAVIS!”](http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/09/05/437831610/kim-davis-supporters-rally-in-front-of-detention-center) > > The rallying starts. That guy in the grey wife-beater has an awfully odd looking penis that he is displaying, as well as a pretty wide stance. Also, why is that guy in the funny hat caressing it if he finds gay marriage so offensive? At least the other fellow has enough sense to hold his left (dominant) hand behind his back so that he won’t be equally tempted. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2015, 10:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/787 "2015-09-07T10:11:28Z")
> [@Jungian\_Camisole](#): > > Because it isn’t in accordance with her religious faith, a Muslim flight attendant was suspended for not serving alcohol to a passenger. I’m rather curious to see if the supporters of Kim Davis will object. After all, it _is_ about religious freedom. Right? > > [http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/05/travel/muslim-flight-attendant-feat/index.html](http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/05/travel/muslim-flight-attendant-feat/index.html) Don’t be silly. That’s proof that Muslims are trying to force Sharia down our throats. It’s _completely_ different than a government employee requiring employees and members of the public to abide by their religious beliefs. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2015, 10:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/788 "2015-09-07T10:26:29Z")
> [@DMC](#): > > That guy in the grey wife-beater has an awfully odd looking penis that he is displaying, as well as a pretty wide stance. Also, why is that guy in the funny hat caressing it if he finds gay marriage so offensive? At least the other fellow has enough sense to hold his left (dominant) hand behind his back so that he won’t be equally tempted. 😃 It took me a moment but once you see it you can’t unsee it. ---
**Author:** ![Honey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/honey/32/5074_2.png) [@Honey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Honey)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2015, 11:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/789 "2015-09-07T11:43:51Z")
> [@suranyi](#): > > That’s true, but to get a marriage certificate you have to get a marriage license. > > In fact, in California they are the same form, except that the certificate has a few more fields filled out. Like the date of the wedding and the name of the officiant. Uh yeah, that’s why I said you need a marriage license to get married. Why is spellcheck saying that officiant is spelled wrong? Odd. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2015, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/790 "2015-09-07T18:58:38Z")
[http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/09/07/us-usa-gaymarriage-kentucky-idUSKCN0R71XP20150907](http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/09/07/us-usa-gaymarriage-kentucky-idUSKCN0R71XP20150907) Now she wants the Governor to say that it’s ok for her to deny the licenses. “The Governor’s refusal to take elementary steps to protect religious liberties has now landed Kim Davis in jail,” Liberty Counsel founder and chairman Mat Staver said. No, moron, that’s not what landed her in jail. You guys are completely wrong about every aspect of this situation. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2015, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/791 "2015-09-07T20:43:53Z")
[Even Fox commentators are opposing her, and call her lawyer “stunningly obtuse.”](http://www.mediaite.com/tv/fox-host-kim-davis-lawyer-is-stunningly-obtuse/) ---
**Author:** ![Emiliana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f0a364/32.png) [@Emiliana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Emiliana)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2015, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/792 "2015-09-08T00:13:35Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > To show to HR at you work to get your spouse on your insurance. I never had to do this. Nor did I need it when we bought a home under the type of ownership only available to married couples. The only time in my entire married life that I was required to produce a marriage license was when I applied for a (non-tourist) visa in Mexico. They didn’t actually need it, they were just giving me shit. I suppose one of us will need it to settle the other’s estate. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2015, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/793 "2015-09-08T00:18:59Z")
> [@Emiliana](#): > > I never had to do this. Nor did I need it when we bought a home under the type of ownership only available to married couples. So therefore no one else ever has to do it? ---
**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2015, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/794 "2015-09-08T01:13:02Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > [Even Fox commentators are opposing her, and call her lawyer “stunningly obtuse.”](http://www.mediaite.com/tv/fox-host-kim-davis-lawyer-is-stunningly-obtuse/) At Shawshank, that’ll get you months in solitary. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2015, 5:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/795 "2015-09-08T05:42:59Z")
> [@Derleth](#): > > I’m on the edge of creating a GQ thread, but what the Hell: Why would you need an official copy of your marriage license? In what circumstances would it be required? The U.S. Consulate has asked me to present my certified marriage certificate on at least four occasions. In one case, it was _all_ they needed and I made a trip to the Capital just for that. I suggested they save work for everybody by making some computer notation (“have verified marriage certificate”) since, after all, any divorce would not affect our possession of that certificate. Needless to say, the suggestion only confused them. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2015, 10:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/796 "2015-09-08T10:18:08Z")
Here is the oath Numb Nutz took: “I do solemnly swear (or affirm, as the case may be) that I will support the Constitution of the United States and the Constitution of this Commonwealth, and be faithful and true to the Commonwealth of Kentucky so long as I continue a citizen thereof, and that I will faithfully execute, to the best of my ability, the office of ——————— according to law; and I do further solemnly swear (or affirm) that since the adoption of the present Constitution…” cite: [http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/oath-court-clerk-now-jailed-gay-marriage-33516278](http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/oath-court-clerk-now-jailed-gay-marriage-33516278) ---
**Author:** ![DoctorJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctorj/32/2904_2.png) [@DoctorJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DoctorJ)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2015, 11:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/797 "2015-09-08T11:10:34Z")
They’re calling school off today in Carter County, where Davis is jailed, because of Mike Huckabee’s rally and the ensuing traffic clustershag. The county asked the organizers to move the rally to another time so this wouldn’t be necessary, and they refused. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_stainless_steel_rat/32/5727_2.png) [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Stainless_Steel_Rat)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2015, 11:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/798 "2015-09-08T11:47:59Z")
> [@DoctorJ](#): > > They’re calling school off today in Carter County, where Davis is jailed, because of Mike Huckabee’s rally and the ensuing traffic clustershag. The county asked the organizers to move the rally to another time so this wouldn’t be necessary, and they refused. Of course they refused, education can take a back seat to a politician trying to score points and improve his poll numbers. That said, I don’t doubt that Huckabee truly does believe he is right in backing Ms. Davis: More fool he, but it may give him a temporary boost in the polls with the Religious Right voters. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2015, 12:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/799 "2015-09-08T12:17:24Z")
I do feel sorry for her in a way, [being a dead ringer for Dick Cheney.](http://members.boardhost.com/politics/msg/1441646298.html) Right now, she’s a double waste of tax dollars. She’s presumably still getting paid for not doing her job because she’s in jail for not doing her job, and she’s costing taxpayers a bundle in feeding and housing her sorry ass. I say put an ankle tracker on her and confine her to her house. ---
**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2015, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/800 "2015-09-08T14:43:42Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > Did I ever tell you about the time that one of the managers where I used to work let us know that one of her employees was going to be absent but sending an email that said, “Charle’s will be out today.”? - twitches \* [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757.md?page=39) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757.md?page=41)