# Fuck you, Rowan County (KY) Clerk Kim Davis

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 13, 2015, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757 "2015-08-13T18:09:20Z")\
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**Author:** ![Fubaya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@Fubaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fubaya)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2015, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/901 "2015-09-09T20:08:12Z")

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Here is an article that specifically said she’d be ok of her name was taken off, but maybe the attorney is trying to downplay the fact that they also wanted “her authority” taken off.

> **[Jailed Kentucky Clerk Kim Davis Offers 'Remedy' in Same-Sex Marriage License...](https://abcnews.go.com/US/jailed-kentucky-clerk-kim-davis-offers-remedy-sex/story?id=33532686)**
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> Kim Davis thinks she has a solution to her problem.

\*Kim Davis thinks she has a solution to her problem.

The Kentucky county clerk, jailed for failing to follow a judge’s orders to issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples, wants her name removed from the marriage certificates, her attorney Matthew Staver told ABC News.

“She has a very strong conscience and she’s just asking for a simple remedy, and that is, remove her name from the certificate and all will be well,” Staver said. “That simple remedy has simply been ignored by the court and by the governor and that’s what should have been done.

“I think it’s reprehensible that she’s in jail for this when a simple fix could have been easily handled.”

Marriage licenses in Kentucky are required to include an authorization statement of the county clerk issuing the license. Some state lawmakers, as well as the Kentucky County Clerks Association, have suggesting having clerks’ names removed from marriage licenses.\*

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2015, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/902 "2015-09-09T20:09:07Z")

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> [@davidm](#):
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> She should just resign and take a cushy position at Fox News or whatever. No doubt she’ll have offers.

But will she be making $80,000 a year, like she is in her current job?

Interesting that she’s taking time off. I hope it’s coming out of her annual leave time, or else without pay.

There are protesters outside the county offices demanding that the deputy clerks be fired for violating the state constitution.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2015, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/903 "2015-09-09T20:16:47Z")

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> [@Fubaya](#):
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> Here is an article that specifically said she’d be ok of her name was taken off, but maybe the attorney is trying to downplay the fact that they also wanted “her authority” taken off.
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> [Jailed Kentucky Clerk Kim Davis Offers 'Remedy' in Same-Sex Marriage License Battle - ABC News](http://abcnews.go.com/US/jailed-kentucky-clerk-kim-davis-offers-remedy-sex/story?id=33532686)
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> \*Kim Davis thinks she has a solution to her problem.
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> The Kentucky county clerk, jailed for failing to follow a judge’s orders to issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples, wants her name removed from the marriage certificates, her attorney Matthew Staver told ABC News.\*

Ya know, if she resigned that would take her name off the certificates; has she tendered her resignation yet?

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2015, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/904 "2015-09-09T20:46:37Z")

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> [@Fubaya](#):
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> Here is an article that specifically said she’d be ok of her name was taken off, but maybe the attorney is trying to downplay the fact that they also wanted “her authority” taken off.
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> [Jailed Kentucky Clerk Kim Davis Offers 'Remedy' in Same-Sex Marriage License Battle - ABC News](http://abcnews.go.com/US/jailed-kentucky-clerk-kim-davis-offers-remedy-sex/story?id=33532686)
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> \*Kim Davis thinks she has a solution to her problem.
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> The Kentucky county clerk, jailed for failing to follow a judge’s orders to issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples, wants her name removed from the marriage certificates, her attorney Matthew Staver told ABC News.
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> “She has a very strong conscience and she’s just asking for a simple remedy, and that is, remove her name from the certificate and all will be well,” Staver said. “That simple remedy has simply been ignored by the court and by the governor and that’s what should have been done.
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> “I think it’s reprehensible that she’s in jail for this when a simple fix could have been easily handled.”
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> Marriage licenses in Kentucky are required to include an authorization statement of the county clerk issuing the license. Some state lawmakers, as well as the Kentucky County Clerks Association, have suggesting having clerks’ names removed from marriage licenses.\*

I like that its “ignored by the court” - which couldnt change it if it wanted to, since there is no legal precendant and its not the case in front of them - that would be in fact ‘creating new law’ and that the Govener is ignoring it - even tho he’s on record as having told them “do it or resign”.

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2015, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/905 "2015-09-09T21:07:17Z")

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> [@simster](#):
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> I like that its “ignored by the court” - which couldnt change it if it wanted to, since there is no legal precendant and its not the case in front of them - that would be in fact ‘creating new law’ and that the Govener is ignoring it - even tho he’s on record as having told them “do it or resign”.

Exactly. Don’t call out the state legislature that can, you know, make it legal and all. Can the Governor make a change to the forms through an executive order until the legislature meets?

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**Author:** ![Hey\_Hey\_Paula](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/85e7bf/32.png) [@Hey\_Hey\_Paula](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hey_Hey_Paula)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2015, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/906 "2015-09-09T21:14:53Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> There are protesters outside the county offices demanding that the deputy clerks be fired for violating the state constitution.

😕 Did they not pay attention in high school or even junior high civics? Did they not learn that US Supreme Court case law trumps any state statutory laws, including state constitutions? :smack:

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2015, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/907 "2015-09-09T21:17:21Z")

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> [@Saint\_Cad](#):
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> Exactly. Don’t call out the state legislature that can, you know, make it legal and all. Can the Governor make a change to the forms through an executive order until the legislature meets?

Why would he? He’s already on record of instucting the clerks to follow the law or resign.

I doubt he would want to get in the middle of the argument of changing 150 years of existing law to do that.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2015, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/908 "2015-09-09T21:18:48Z")

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> [@Saint\_Cad](#):
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> Exactly. Don’t call out the state legislature that can, you know, make it legal and all. Can the Governor make a change to the forms through an executive order until the legislature meets?

Bah. I don’t think they should cave in to her. If she does not want her name on legal forms, she should resign. Are we going to make special exceptions for every one of these goofballs?

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2015, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/909 "2015-09-09T21:30:52Z")

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She also issues fishing licenses. What happens when a same sex couple wants to go fishing?

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2015, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/910 "2015-09-09T21:33:18Z")

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I have a solution that the judge should use to deal once and for all with Davis.

Rendite her to ISIS to get a taste of what it is like to have force of religion replace rule of law.

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2015, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/911 "2015-09-09T21:35:17Z")

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> [@Hey\_Hey\_Paula](#):
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> 😕 Did they not pay attention in high school or even junior high civics? Did they not learn that US Supreme Court case law trumps any state statutory laws, including state constitutions? :smack:

Many of them are home “schooled.”

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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2015, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/912 "2015-09-09T22:10:08Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> Bah. I don’t think they should cave in to her. If she does not want her name on legal forms, she should resign. Are we going to make special exceptions for every one of these goofballs?

That’s what they seem to want.

This whole spate of “religious freedom” cases we’re seeing recently - this, Hobby Lobby, etc. - may be another Republican backdoor attempt to disrupt so-called “big government” by making it impossible to enforce anything because of someone claiming “religious freedom”. Oh, I think the individuals, like Ms Davis, are sincere enough (if misguided), but we know that there are interests who like to tie the legislative and judicial branches in knots, seemingly for the hell of it.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2015, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/913 "2015-09-09T22:54:16Z")

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> [@Muffin](#):
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> She also issues fishing licenses. What happens when a same sex couple wants to go fishing?

Well, that’s taking slippery slope a bit far IMHO. And I seriously doubt that the clerk records fishing licenses. They don’t in Colorado anyway. And each person would have their own license.

But there are plenty of documents where both spouses are typically on the deed. Property ownership for instance. While not mentioned in the bible (AFAIK) what if this then becomes ‘icky’ to these fanatics. They twist the bible into such contortions, and interpret the parts they like, the way they like.

Or how about medical release forms. Will they frown that Mr Jones relationship to Mr Jones is spouse?

Situations involving inheritance could become a biggy too.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2015, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/914 "2015-09-09T22:58:21Z")

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> [@Muffin](#):
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> She also issues fishing licenses. What happens when a same sex couple wants to go fishing?

Is that what the kids are calling it these days?

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2015, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/915 "2015-09-10T00:09:29Z")

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That’s why I love this place. I’ve never before thought to contemplate the implications of gay fishing. Soon, I will have a position on it, though tentatively I support it.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2015, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/916 "2015-09-10T00:28:10Z")

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Gay fishing is what happens when you go regular fishing, and catch a rainbow trout.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2015, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/917 "2015-09-10T00:38:37Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> Gay fishing is what happens when you go regular fishing, and catch a rainbow trout.

_golf clap_

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2015, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/918 "2015-09-10T00:45:19Z")

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Indictment.

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**Author:** ![outlierrn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/outlierrn/32/3005_2.png) [@outlierrn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/outlierrn)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2015, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/919 "2015-09-10T05:31:04Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> Gay fishing is what happens when you go regular fishing, and catch a rainbow trout.

So you _can_ catch the gay, I’d been misinformed.

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2015, 8:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/920 "2015-09-10T08:57:43Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> Gay fishing is what happens when you go regular fishing, and catch a rainbow trout.

> [@outlierrn](#):
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> So you _can_ catch the gay, I’d been misinformed.

Brilliant! Both of you. I say we send this to Huckabee and Bachmann. Huckabee for the rainbow gag and catching the gay, as her husband did. Maybe on a fishing trip.

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