# Fuck you, Rowan County (KY) Clerk Kim Davis **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 13, 2015, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757 "2015-08-13T18:09:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 54
**Author:** ![bosbfdsfd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ba8739/32.png) [@bosbfdsfd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bosbfdsfd)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2015, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1061 "2015-09-12T04:03:20Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > Unless I’m mistaken, she’s currently married isn’t she? So, by her beliefs, she’s currently living in sin and apparently unrepentant about it. I don’t think you can benefit from forgiveness for a sin if you continue committing that same sin. We’ll leave the theological interpretations to the experts, thanks. You’re free to continue reading her mind and knowing what her beliefs are though. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2015, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1062 "2015-09-12T04:07:29Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > > [@JRDelirious](#): > > > > That’s what THEY think. > > > > The Big Guy knows if you repented for reals, or thought\*\* it was just a matter of sayin’ the magic words\*\*. Nothin’ like hearing “gotcha ya” coming from the High Throne in the voice of the whirlwind. > > God’s throne room has a fringed flag? I think there is a bit of overlap among the relevant groups and their view of the world. Find one passage in the Bible or in the Constitution or in some arcane statute, that out of context fits how you think things should be, and then hammer the rest of the document and its derivative treatises to be all about supporting that one notion. However, it does seem to me it may be that in the theology of her new church, the proscription against divorce and remarriage is if you were in a True Christian Marriage to begin with. Unequal yokes and all that. And then, it’s only after we have ourselves the reborn in the Spirit, New And Improved, Kim Davis, that NOW she will be in a True Christian Marriage. Everything “wrong” that she did before no longer counts, period. But as has been mentioned, disagreement on this aspect of theology, her marital background, the sincerity of the New Improved Kim persona… should be irrelevant. The problem here is that the New Improved Kim is engaging in misconduct in public office and offering her religion as an excuse, and serving as a tool for the enemies of equal civil rights and for those who’d privilege Mob Rule over Rule of Law. It would be just as much of a problem if she had been a model Fundamentalist from the day she was born or her religious background were of an observant hardline Roman Catholic or Orthodox Jewish or if she had led a marital life without reproach or a life of celibacy or even if she had lived her life in a Free Love cult commune or self-published homophobic porn on the side. Her shirking of duties would be the same. ---
**Author:** ![bosbfdsfd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ba8739/32.png) [@bosbfdsfd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bosbfdsfd)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2015, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1063 "2015-09-12T04:08:27Z")
> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#): > > I don’t like this logic. > It’s true what you say, yes… > …but it doesn’t make her any less of a hypocrite. > > Even taking that example out of the equation, there’s still the fact that the bible also says “love thy neighbor”, so her talking about how gays are so “unequal” and “an abomination” and going to “burn in hell for all of eternity” doesn’t sound like she’s listening much to that part of her good book, only the parts that back her up. > > As I said to someone a few days ago, you can’t just pick and choose what parts of the bible count and what ones don’t. Either it all counts or none of it does. I imagine many, if not all, people of faith, take their spiritual advice from those with no expertise in the Bible whatsoever, combined with a healthy hatred for Christians. ---
**Author:** ![bosbfdsfd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ba8739/32.png) [@bosbfdsfd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bosbfdsfd)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2015, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1064 "2015-09-12T04:10:05Z")
> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#): > > This, this, a hundred times this…but with a pinch of what **Bridget Burke** is saying too. Not about being used by men or that stuff, but about how she’s feeding off this stuff now. > > At this point, she thinks she can do no wrong. She feels/thinks she’s the champion of all “true Christian” people. With the amount of attention and publicity and support and possible money from these groups, she’s not going to be stopping any time soon. > I mean, yeah, just as many (if not wayyyy more) people dislike and disagree with her very strongly, but she already knew about that stuff and it doesn’t faze her. All she’s soaking in is the praise and support from other deluded, like-minded people and especially from a lot of “higher up” people (I.E. Huckabee, Cruz, etc) giving their support and meeting her. > > They’re all flaming this fire pretty hot and I can see it turning ugly really fast, really easily…really soon. > > I mean, she sees herself as an outcast, martyr type now…taking a huge stand against thousands of “naysayers” and there will be no backing down for her now. She’s basically made it her personal mission to do everything she can to impede as much as she can and she will not ever stop. > > I think it’s going to get (much) worse before it gets better…and I cannot wait until she gets fully smacked down with a huge dose of reality. The frothing and endless hatred of the overemotional hyenas on the left isn’t reality, I’m afraid. ---
**Author:** ![Punoqllads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@Punoqllads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Punoqllads)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2015, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1065 "2015-09-12T04:13:27Z")
> [@bosbfdsfd](#): > > The frothing and endless hatred of the overemotional hyenas on the left isn’t reality, I’m afraid. Bless your heart. ---
**Author:** ![Fubaya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@Fubaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fubaya)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2015, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1066 "2015-09-12T04:24:15Z")
I can’t even keep up anymore. Apparently she also filed an emergency motion today asking Bunning to order the governor to take her name off of marriage licenses. Bunning denied it on the basis of states rights. > **[Federal Judge Slaps Down Kim Davis Emergency Request, Ironically Uses States'...](https://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/2015/09/federal_judge_slaps_down_kim_davis_emergency_request_ironically_uses_states_rights_as_reason/)** > > Kim Davis once again has been told no by a federal judge, but this time, the irony is exquisite. “Under the Eleventh Amendment, as interpreted by Pennhurst, the Court simply does not have the authority to order Governor Beshear or Commissioner Onkst to alter the marriage license form or amend KRS §402.100 based on alleged violations of Davis’ rights under the Kentucky Constitution and Ky. RFRA. Davis’ claims brought under state law should therefore be brought in Kentucky state court.” ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2015, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1067 "2015-09-12T04:37:02Z")
> [@bosbfdsfd](#): > > The frothing and endless hatred of the overemotional hyenas on the left isn’t reality, I’m afraid. Do you know you’re stupid, or do you just walk around confused and angry all the time? ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2015, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1068 "2015-09-12T05:21:05Z")
> [@bosbfdsfd](#): > > I imagine many, if not all, people of faith, take their spiritual advice from those with no expertise in the Bible whatsoever, combined with a healthy hatred for Christians. I’m curious, do you pay someone to tie your shoes for you or do you just wander around barefoot? ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2015, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1069 "2015-09-12T05:31:37Z")
> [@bosbfdsfd](#): > > We’ll leave the theological interpretations to the experts, thanks. You’re free to continue reading her mind and knowing what her beliefs are though. But I am a theological interpretation expert, and I’m able to read minds. I know, for example, that you chose your user name by having your cat walk across your keyboard. ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2015, 7:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1070 "2015-09-12T07:40:51Z")
> [@bosbfdsfd](#): > > I imagine many, if not all, people of faith, take their spiritual advice from those with no expertise in the Bible whatsoever, combined with a healthy hatred for Christians. Well you got the first part right anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2015, 8:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1071 "2015-09-12T08:06:42Z")
It keeps getting worse . . . Lawyers for Davis have filed an appeal against the injunction, asking that Davis be allowed once again to refuse to issue marriage licenses. The argument seems to be this: The original lawsuit had four named plaintiffs (four couples) who were suing for marriage licenses. Three of those have gotten their licenses (and the fourth apparently has not pursued getting one). The lawyers claim that the injunction, requiring Davis to issue licenses, applies _only_ to these four named plaintiffs. So there is nothing left for Davis to do under the terms of the injunction. So when more couples start asking for marriage licenses, Davis is no longer under any injunction to provide them. But Bunning’s injunction requires Davis to issue marriage licenses to any couple that comes in asking, including future couples. The lawyers are claiming that this condition of the injunction is improper for some reason. How many layers of stupid is _that_ ? Story: [http://www.whas11.com/story/news/local/2015/09/11/liberty-counsel-files-emergency-stay-motion-federal-appeals-court-kim-davis/72072222/](http://www.whas11.com/story/news/local/2015/09/11/liberty-counsel-files-emergency-stay-motion-federal-appeals-court-kim-davis/72072222/) ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2015, 8:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1072 "2015-09-12T08:22:33Z")
> [@bosbfdsfd](#): > > The frothing and endless hatred of the overemotional hyenas on the left isn’t reality, I’m afraid. I have to be honest here, I really don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about. ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2015, 10:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1073 "2015-09-12T10:24:59Z")
Is divorce less of a sin than same sex marriage, in the religion of Kim? I mean, it must be, because she has had no problem with issuing licenses to divorced people since she converted 4 years ago. How does she decide which sins she should take a stand against? Is there like a chart or something? ---
**Author:** ![bosbfdsfd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ba8739/32.png) [@bosbfdsfd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bosbfdsfd)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2015, 10:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1074 "2015-09-12T10:57:49Z")
> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#): > > Is divorce less of a sin than same sex marriage, in the religion of Kim? I mean, it must be, because she has had no problem with issuing licenses to divorced people since she converted 4 years ago. > > How does she decide which sins she should take a stand against? Is there like a chart or something? It’s whatever causes the most liberals to have a stroke. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2015, 11:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1075 "2015-09-12T11:14:39Z")
> [@bosbfdsfd](#): > > It’s whatever causes the most liberals to have a stroke. 🙂 Fortunately, we don’t think masturbation is a sin. ---
**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2015, 11:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1076 "2015-09-12T11:42:44Z")
> [@Senegoid](#): > > How many layers of stupid is _that_ ? It’s the new kind of stupid that the religious have invented, the one where civil rights cases only apply to the plaintiffs of the case, and not to anyone else. ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2015, 11:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1077 "2015-09-12T11:45:19Z")
> [@bosbfdsfd](#): > > It’s whatever causes the most liberals to have a stroke. 🙂 Which book of the bible is that in? ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2015, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1078 "2015-09-12T12:09:46Z")
> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#): > > Which book of the bible is that in? Well I think we should leave that to the theologians, hmm? ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2015, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1079 "2015-09-12T12:23:41Z")
> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#): > > Which book of the bible is that in? Hateronomy? ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2015, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1080 "2015-09-12T12:27:03Z")
> [@Senegoid](#): > > How many layers of stupid is _that_ ? You misspelled “lawyers.” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757.md?page=53) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757.md?page=55)