# Fuck you, Rowan County (KY) Clerk Kim Davis **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 13, 2015, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757 "2015-08-13T18:09:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 57
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2015, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1121 "2015-09-13T17:44:35Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > Yeah, but I assume you don’t have my problem of getting way too angry at these idiots. > > And, anyways, I post on Reddit. I don’t need to see these assholes here to remember they exist. :shrug: I see it more as comedy. Especially Huckabees attempt to bring Dred Scott into it. It’s good info for me if I ever run into one of these bigots in real life. Also, I work for county government. Twenty three years now. I find it quite interesting how this is… being handled. ---
**Author:** ![boytyperanma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4491bb/32.png) [@boytyperanma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/boytyperanma)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2015, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1122 "2015-09-13T18:21:31Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > Oh, I wouldn’t put any of these folks on my ignore list. I don’t have one. > > Let Huckabee and their ilk expose their ignorance for all to see. Paying attention to them is important. I’ve been on this board for 10 years now, I’ve only ever put one person on ignore and it was **D’Anconia**. I’m generally against the ignore function. In his case it’s been totally worth it. There hasn’t been a more useless contributor to this board. I’m not missing a thing. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2015, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1123 "2015-09-13T18:52:02Z")
> [@boytyperanma](#): > > I’ve been on this board for 10 years now, I’ve only ever put one person on ignore and it was **D’Anconia**. I’m generally against the ignore function. In his case it’s been totally worth it. There hasn’t been a more useless contributor to this board. I’m not missing a thing. Keep your friends close. Keep your enemies closer. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2015, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1124 "2015-09-13T19:33:23Z")
There is a new billboard in her town, where it seems that she may be less than universally supported. “Dear Kim Davis, the fact that you can’t sell your daughter for three goats and a cow means we’ve already redefined marriage,” the billboard reads. > **[Kim Davis Mocked by 'Marriage' Billboard in Her Hometown](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/kim-davis-chastised-billboard-erected-her-hometown-n426586)** > > "Dear Kim Davis, the fact that you can't sell your daughter for three goats and a cow means we've already redefined marriage," the billboard reads. ---
**Author:** ![boytyperanma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4491bb/32.png) [@boytyperanma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/boytyperanma)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2015, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1125 "2015-09-13T19:59:25Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > Keep your friends close. Keep your enemies closer. He’s not an enemy, that would require some degree of intelligence. He’s more like the screaming child three rows back in on the plane. I’ll put on my noise canceling headphones and move on with my life. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2015, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1126 "2015-09-13T20:31:01Z")
> [@boytyperanma](#): > > He’s not an enemy, that would require some degree of intelligence. He’s more like the screaming child three rows back in on the plane. I’ll put on my noise canceling headphones and move on with my life. Unfortunately, the screaming petulant child may turn into another Donald Trump. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2015, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1127 "2015-09-13T21:49:38Z")
FFS some people are stupid. Check this out:[ > [@](#): > > Southern Baptist Convention leader Russell Moore recently helped put together a legal guide for churches called “Protecting Your Ministry from Sexual Orientation Gender Identity Lawsuits.” > > He shares the concern of some other conservative Christians that the religious liberty rights of a government official should not be conflated with that of a private citizen. But he also believes the entire conflict with Davis could have been avoided. > > “I hope that what comes out of the Kim Davis case is that we agree to sit down and find a way to protect the consciences of people when it comes to issues they cannot morally endorse,” he said. “ **The state of Kentucky so far doesn’t have much of an answer besides jailing people.** ” ]([http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US\_REL\_GAY\_MARRIAGE\_KENTUCKY?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2015-09-13-14-13-04](http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_REL_GAY_MARRIAGE_KENTUCKY?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2015-09-13-14-13-04)) (bolding mine) Judge David Bunning is a federal judge for the United States District Court for the Eastern District of Kentucky. The state of Kentucky, its statutes and its legal system did not put Mrs. Davis in jail, the federal government did. Southern Baptist Convention leader Russell Moore, you are a fucking idiot. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2015, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1128 "2015-09-13T21:59:39Z")
Sure, the situation could have been readily avoided. Kim Davis could simply have realized that signing a license does not mean she is giving moral endorsement, nor do I expect anyone applying for a marriage cares whether Kim Davis gives her moral endorsement or not. ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2015, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1129 "2015-09-13T22:14:03Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Sure, the situation could have been readily avoided. Kim Davis could simply have realized that signing a license does not mean she is giving moral endorsement, nor do I expect anyone applying for a marriage cares whether Kim Davis gives her moral endorsement or not. Or she could have resigned once it became clear that her religious sensibilities prevented her from doing her job. ---
**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2015, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1130 "2015-09-13T22:15:33Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Southern Baptist Convention leader Russell Moore, you are a fucking idiot. Disagree. He’s not trying to find an equitable legal balance between individuals’ religious liberty and their official duties - he’s pretending in order to scare people and get them mobilized to keep his shrinking demographic relevant for as long a she can. Anyone who takes Moore’s “guide” at face value, on the other hand, is definitely an idiot. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2015, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1131 "2015-09-14T00:11:30Z")
> [@74westy](#): > > That will be a win for Davis. She’s the type of Christian who only lives to be martyred. It is irrelevant if, in her opinion or her supporters’ opinions, she wins by being a martyr. What matters is that marriage licenses are issued to the applicants. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2015, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1132 "2015-09-14T00:21:18Z")
> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#): > > Awesome idea. Then when some Republicans get in power they can appoint for life good Christian Republicans who will show them gays what for. It’s just a matter of establishing a neutral public service. Look north of your border for examples of how it works quite nicely. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2015, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1133 "2015-09-14T04:46:53Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > Where is the “imagination or humor” in statements like that? > > Mrs. Davis has received death threats IRL. Should we handwave those away, too? Of course, it’s impossible to determine any significant differences between death threats from people in her area and anonymous posters ranting on a message board in an obviously joking manner. Poor taste does not make those differences go away. > [@bosbfdsfd](#): > > No sorry, you don’t get to use it to comment on her morality unless we get to use it to comment on yours. So, tell us, which parts are you currently violating in your private life, since, according to you, that’s completely relevant to the discussion at hand? Wait, _what_? So if someone says “I hold X up as the basis of my morality”, we’re not allowed to point out hypocrisy unless _we_ hold it up as the basis of our morality as well? What utter nonsense! The fact that I don’t believe in the bible doesn’t change the fact that Davis claims she does, and yet clearly cherry-picks her morals rather than applying the book as a whole. The point being, she’s _lying_ about the bible being the source of her morality. ---
**Author:** ![bosbfdsfd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ba8739/32.png) [@bosbfdsfd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bosbfdsfd)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2015, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1134 "2015-09-14T05:10:37Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > We are using the Bible as a barometer for Kim Davis’s morality, since she was the one who invoked it. We are not using the Bible as a barometer for anyone else’s morality, since they did not invoke it. Are we clear? Sure we are, just not in the way you’re hoping 🙂 You are indeed invoking it to condemn her morality, so others get to invoke it to question yours. I understand how sputteringly angry you get when your idiotic tactics are used against you (nothing is more amusing to us than watching Bible-hating liberals try and fail to use it as a hammer, especially when they never shut up about others using it as a hammer), but come up with something new. ---
**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2015, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1135 "2015-09-14T05:16:41Z")
> [@bosbfdsfd](#): > > You are indeed invoking it to condemn her morality, so others get to invoke it to question yours. That makes absolutely zero sense. If a person who claims to live up to a certain set of values and condemns others for not doing so is then discovered to live in clear violation of those values there is a conflict. Pointing out the conflict does not mean the observer becomes bound by that set of values by the simple act of making the observation. ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2015, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1136 "2015-09-14T05:57:50Z")
> [@bosbfdsfd](#): > > . . . You are indeed invoking it to condemn her morality, so others get to invoke it to question yours. . . . Likewise, logically, we get to question yours. What is the basis for your morality, and how does it align with the Bible? You’ve already fallen well afoul of the “false witness” commandment, so the answer would seem to be that you’re seriously deficient. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2015, 6:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1137 "2015-09-14T06:26:57Z")
> [@bosbfdsfd](#): > > Sure we are, just not in the way you’re hoping 🙂 > > You are indeed invoking it to condemn her morality, so others get to invoke it to question yours. I understand how sputteringly angry you get when your idiotic tactics are used against you (nothing is more amusing to us than watching Bible-hating liberals try and fail to use it as a hammer, especially when they never shut up about others using it as a hammer), but come up with something new. If her moral stance is hypocritical, that’s an issue worth talking about. I think you’re the one sputtering in inchoate anger here. ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2015, 7:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1138 "2015-09-14T07:04:59Z")
> [@bosbfdsfd](#): > > You are indeed invoking it to condemn her morality, so others get to invoke it to question yours No, you’re confused. Posters here are condemning Davis as a hypocrite and a liar if she says she sources her morality from the Bible and seeks to impose that morality on others but doesn’t follow the Bible herself. They are not condemning her for not following the Bible in itself. They are condemning her lies and hypocrisy. ---
**Author:** ![bosbfdsfd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ba8739/32.png) [@bosbfdsfd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bosbfdsfd)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2015, 7:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1139 "2015-09-14T07:18:49Z")
> [@Trinopus](#): > > Likewise, logically, we get to question yours. What is the basis for your morality, and how does it align with the Bible? You’ve already fallen well afoul of the “false witness” commandment, so the answer would seem to be that you’re seriously deficient. While I applaud you for proving my point and using the Bible to question someone’s morality, I’m afraid I haven’t used it to cast aspersions on anyone. Better luck next time 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2015, 7:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1140 "2015-09-14T07:35:47Z")
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