# Fuck you, Rowan County (KY) Clerk Kim Davis **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 13, 2015, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757 "2015-08-13T18:09:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2015, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/101 "2015-08-16T19:35:38Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > What is wrong is five unelected judges in D.C. telling people in Rowan County, KY what to do. Welcome to the United States. How recently did you move here? Which country were you living in previously? Perhaps you might start a thread so that you can learn all about the American system of government. Basically, we have three branches of government, only two of which are elected. One of the elected branches is the President of the United States while the second is the US Congress (which has two chambers). ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2015, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/102 "2015-08-16T19:41:17Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > What is wrong is five unelected judges in D.C. telling people in Rowan County, KY what to do. Just so you know, you’re fucking stupid. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2015, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/103 "2015-08-16T19:48:03Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > Just so you know, you’re fucking stupid. What’s funny is that **D’Anconia** posted this in the minimum wage thread. > [@Fallout from higher minimum wage](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fallout-from-higher-minimum-wage/726182/188): > > I can certainly understand why you only trot out the Supreme Court argument when it goes your way, and rage when it doesn’t. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2015, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/104 "2015-08-16T20:02:56Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > Welcome to the United States. How recently did you move here? Which country were you living in previously? Perhaps you might start a thread so that you can learn all about the American system of government. Basically, we have three branches of government, only two of which are elected. One of the elected branches is the President of the United States while the second is the US Congress (which has two chambers). Wow, you’re so smart. Have you schooled your fellow travelers on this board who think that _Citizens United_ is somehow invalid? ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2015, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/105 "2015-08-16T20:07:15Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > What is wrong is five unelected judges in D.C. telling people in Rowan County, KY what to do. So a clerk here can use the same argument regarding gun control, and refuse to issue weapons permits? Nice to know, thanks. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2015, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/106 "2015-08-16T20:10:24Z")
> [@Trinopus](#): > > So a clerk here can use the same argument regarding gun control, and refuse to issue weapons permits? Nice to know, thanks. I don’t follow the issues WRT gun laws very often, but aren’t there jurisdictions that pretty much try to do that? ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2015, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/107 "2015-08-16T20:50:03Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > Wow, you’re so smart. Have you schooled your fellow travelers on this board who think that _Citizens United_ is somehow invalid? Who here thinks Citizens United is “invalid”? I know of many people who disagree with the decision or feel that the grounds on which the decision was made aren’t good, but I can’t recall anyone saying the Supreme Court lacked the authority to adjudicate the matter. The only person here who seems to be arguing that the Supreme Court is invalid is you. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2015, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/108 "2015-08-16T21:35:07Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > Take immigration out of the picture. Can San Francisco offer Sanctuary to murderers and be in compliance with federal laws? Well, murders is generally a state crimes, so it’s not really an issue here. Keep trying, though. I think you’re on the verge of convincing people they shouldn’t care about this county clerk. ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2015, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/109 "2015-08-16T21:54:29Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > I don’t follow the issues WRT gun laws very often, but aren’t there jurisdictions that pretty much try to do that? Is that “okay?” (Jurisdictions violating court orders and refusing to issue weapons permits.) It’s okay for any civil official to refuse to perform his job, any time, for personal religious reasons, because “five unelected judges” have made a constitutional ruling? What makes this different from, say, Obama refusing to deport illegal immigrants who have been residing in the U.S. since early childhood? It’s a personal religious stance, and must be respected? I hate to invoke the slippery slope…but…where do you draw the line? If constitutional law may be interpreted by individuals, how can there be a constitution? ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2015, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/110 "2015-08-16T22:29:09Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Who here thinks Citizens United is “invalid”? I know of many people who disagree with the decision or feel that the grounds on which the decision was made aren’t good, but I can’t recall anyone saying the Supreme Court lacked the authority to adjudicate the matter. A poster here says that the Supreme Court justices were “assholes” when they voted in Citizens, but suddenly, the same justices are A-OK when they vote the way he politically likes. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2015, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/111 "2015-08-16T22:31:46Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > A poster here says that the Supreme Court justices were “assholes” when they voted in Citizens, but suddenly, the same justices are A-OK when they vote the way he politically likes. Saying “The justices are assholes” is different than saying “The justices lack the authority to make this decision”. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2015, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/112 "2015-08-16T22:37:05Z")
> [@Trinopus](#): > > What makes this different from, say, Obama refusing to deport illegal immigrants who have been residing in the U.S. since early childhood? It’s a personal religious stance, and must be respected? It’s not OK when Obama violates the Constitution, as he did in _Noel Canning_, but I haven’t heard anyone on the left complaining about it, before or since. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2015, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/113 "2015-08-16T22:45:04Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > It’s not OK when Obama violates the Constitution, as he did in _Noel Canning_, > but I haven’t heard anyone on the left complaining about it, before or since. Is anyone advocating that Obama should ignore the Canning decision and continue issuing recess appointments in violation of the ruling? ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2015, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/114 "2015-08-16T22:50:57Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Is anyone advocating that Obama should ignore the Canning decision and continue issuing recess appointments in violation of the ruling? Obama was a professor of Constitutional Law. Shouldn’t he have known better? He lost 9-0, and his own appointees voted against him. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2015, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/115 "2015-08-16T23:00:17Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > Obama was a professor of Constitutional Law. Shouldn’t he have known better? He lost 9-0, and his own appointees voted against him. How is that in any way relevant to gay marriage? The Court ruled against him and he is abiding by that decision, unlike Kim Davis. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2015, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/116 "2015-08-16T23:09:09Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > The Court ruled against him and he is abiding by that decision, unlike Kim Davis. Obama broke the law, and he hoped that the Court wouldn’t call him out on it. He is not some innocent bystander. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2015, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/117 "2015-08-16T23:18:21Z")
But I’m not an Obama appointee, so why should I care about it? ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [August 16, 2015, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/118 "2015-08-16T23:30:22Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > Obama broke the law, and he hoped that the Court wouldn’t call him out on it. He is not some innocent bystander. And now that the court ruled against him, is it your opinion that he has the right to ignore the Court and continue doing what he wants anyway? Because that’s what Kim Davis is doing, and what you’re supporting her in doing by asserting that “five unelected judges” can’t tell people what to do. ---
**Author:** ![Spud](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spud/32/347_2.png) [@Spud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spud)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/119 "2015-08-17T00:02:13Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > How many SDMB posters have loved ones in Rowan County, KY? > > Zero > > How many SDMB posters even know where Rowan County, Kentucky IS? > > Zero Sorry… missed it by two. Maybe not technically a loved one, but a very close family friend attends Morehead State. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/120 "2015-08-17T00:44:08Z")
> [@Spud](#): > > Sorry… missed it by two. > > Maybe not technically a loved one, but a very close family friend attends Morehead State. And this very close family friend happens to be gay, right? Oh, and wants to get married while still in college. Sure. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757.md?page=7)