# Fuck you, Rowan County (KY) Clerk Kim Davis

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 13, 2015, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757 "2015-08-13T18:09:20Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2015, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1261 "2015-09-16T17:25:38Z")

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> [@YogSosoth](#):
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> So thanks for that, I guess that’s the flower that grew out of the pot of dirt.

That’s not dirt. 😃

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2015, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1262 "2015-09-16T17:32:22Z")

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Good fertilizer, though.

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2015, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1263 "2015-09-16T17:47:25Z")

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> [@davidm](#):
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> I wonder if there’s any truth to this:  
> [More fun with Kim Davis - Democratic Underground Forums](http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027174467)

I hope the image(s) get posted to validate that - this is exactly what I posted earlier - SHe’s setting up the next ‘battle’ where she will refuse to record the marriages due to the licenses “not being worth the paper they’re printed on” (her words).

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2015, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1264 "2015-09-16T17:49:54Z")

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Actually, I’m a little surprised the judge didn’t specify that that would be considered “shenanigans.”

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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2015, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1265 "2015-09-16T18:04:08Z")

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Here’s a picture.  
[http://www.scoopnest.com/user/CNN/643456757885440001](http://www.scoopnest.com/user/CNN/643456757885440001)  
You can see where it says “Pursuant to Federal Court Order…” in a field which has had its label X’ed out.

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2015, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1266 "2015-09-16T18:14:58Z")

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> [@davidm](#):
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> Here’s a picture.  
> [| | Scoopnest](http://www.scoopnest.com/user/CNN/643456757885440001)  
> You can see where it says “Pursuant to Federal Court Order…” in a field which has had its label X’ed out.

yeah - I say thats shenanigans - and I can’t wait to see what happens when the license comes back to be recorded.

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**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2015, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1267 "2015-09-16T18:15:54Z")

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I didn’t think Kim’s office actually was the entity that validated validity once you sent everything back in, though, is it? If not, there’s an opportunity to just ignore what Kim has done to the license and accept them at face value, sort of akin to accepting dollar bills covered in sharpie marks, for example.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2015, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1268 "2015-09-16T18:18:12Z")

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Well, it’s one thing if your kid scraws on the license in crayon. It’s quite another if the agency _responsible for issuing the license_ defaces it. The deputy clerks who agreed to issue licenses told the court they’d be scratching out Davis’ name, though, so as far as compliance goes I don’t think this is an issue. It _is_ an issue in terms of the validity of the licenses, as I’ve noted, but that’s not Bunning’s problem.

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2015, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1269 "2015-09-16T18:22:00Z")

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> [@Martin\_Hyde](#):
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> I didn’t think Kim’s office actually was the entity that validated validity once you sent everything back in, though, is it? If not, there’s an opportunity to just ignore what Kim has done to the license and accept them at face value, sort of akin to accepting dollar bills covered in sharpie marks, for example.

They come back to teh clerks office for recording.

> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> Well, it’s one thing if your kid scraws on the license in crayon. It’s quite another if the agency _responsible for issuing the license_ defaces it. The deputy clerks who agreed to issue licenses told the court they’d be scratching out Davis’ name, though, so as far as compliance goes I don’t think this is an issue. It _is_ an issue in terms of the validity of the licenses, as I’ve noted, but that’s not Bunning’s problem.

They are ‘valid’ from the sense that the couple can get married, and that the marriage itself would not be contested based on this - but they are technically “not valid” according to the statute that says how they are to be signed, etc.

Bunning’s order was all about getting the licenses issued - I don’t recall right now exactly how it was worded as to the signatures, etc - so again, ‘technically’ she’s complying with the order to issue the licenses - it will be another thing when it comes to recording the actual marriages tho (I bet).

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2015, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1270 "2015-09-16T18:29:33Z")

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From - [http://www.lrc.ky.gov/Statutes/statute.aspx?id=36475](http://www.lrc.ky.gov/Statutes/statute.aspx?id=36475) -

> [@](#):
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> A signed statement by the county clerk or a  
> deputy county clerk of the county  
> in which the marriage license was issued that the marriage certificate was  
> recorded. The statement shall indicate the name of the county and the date the  
> marriage certificate was recorded
> 
> A certificate to be delivered  
> by the person performing the marriage ceremony or the  
> clerk of the religious society performing the marriage ceremony to the parties  
> married. This certificate shall provide for the entering of:  
> (a)  
> A statement by the person performing the marriage ceremon  
> y or the clerk of  
> the religious society performing the marriage ceremony that the ceremony was  
> performed. The statement shall include the name and title of the person  
> performing the ceremony, or the name of the religious society performing the  
> ceremony, th  
> e names of persons married, the date and place of the marriage,  
> the names of two (2) witnesses, and the following information as recorded on  
> the license authorizing the marriage: the date the license was issued, the name  
> of the county clerk under whose aut  
> hority the license was issued, and the  
> county in which the license was issued;

So, while typing the name may count as a signature “pursuant to federal court order” - DOES NOT.

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**Author:** ![Punoqllads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@Punoqllads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Punoqllads)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2015, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1271 "2015-09-16T19:32:23Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> It’s pretty simple, really, any moron should be able to grasp it.

Ah, but bob’s not just any moron!

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**Author:** ![bosbfdsfd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ba8739/32.png) [@bosbfdsfd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bosbfdsfd)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2015, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1272 "2015-09-16T20:41:48Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> It’s pretty simple, really, any moron should be able to grasp it.
> 
> If you claim that a book of rules guides your life, everyone in the universe is free to point out when you violate those rules or casually ignore the ones you do not like.

And when they use their own simian-like understanding of that book to do the judging they’d better live up to that themselves if they want anyone to take them seriously. This admittedly trips liberals up constantly since nobody listens to them anyway 🙂

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**Author:** ![bosbfdsfd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ba8739/32.png) [@bosbfdsfd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bosbfdsfd)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2015, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1273 "2015-09-16T20:43:09Z")

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> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#):
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> See, this is the problem with spending time at Christianforums. When someone is blatantly and obviously intellectually retarded like our friend here, it doesn’t usually occur to everyone, so it’s worth it to spell it out, step by step, for the peanut gallery, so that _maybe_ they get it. Here, people aren’t fucking morons, so everyone else has already figured it out.
> 
> …See, that’s why I don’t post here as often. You guys are all just too damn smart, and anything actually worth saying has already been said by someone better-qualified to say it. Buncha dicks. :mad:
> 
> 😛

How are the new knee pads working out for you? 🙂

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2015, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1274 "2015-09-16T20:43:45Z")

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> [@](#):
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> And when they use their own simian-like understanding of that book to do the judging they’d better live up to that themselves if they want anyone to take them seriously. This admittedly trips liberals up constantly since nobody listens to them anyway

You seem to be, though _comprehending_ is obviously beyond you.

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**Author:** ![bosbfdsfd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ba8739/32.png) [@bosbfdsfd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bosbfdsfd)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2015, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1275 "2015-09-16T20:44:26Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> Don’t worry, he will slink off to the same rathole he disappeared into the last time he got his ass handed to him in the Gamergate thread.

Aw, it’s so cute that you remember. Hope Zoe Quinn’s well-used landwhale cooch was worth it 🙂

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**Post date:** [September 16, 2015, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1276 "2015-09-16T20:51:09Z")

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What a sad little man you are. I genuinely don’t know how you provoke any emotion except pity.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2015, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1277 "2015-09-16T21:28:55Z")

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> [@bosbfdsfd](#):
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> How are the new knee pads working out for you? 🙂

Is this a gay joke? Do you think being gay is bad?

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**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2015, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1278 "2015-09-16T22:08:28Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> What a sad little man you are. I genuinely don’t know how you provoke any emotion except pity.

Is nausea an emotion?

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**Author:** ![Cazzle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cazzle/32/75_2.png) [@Cazzle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cazzle)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2015, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1279 "2015-09-17T03:27:13Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> Well, it’s one thing if your kid scraws on the license in crayon. It’s quite another if the agency _responsible for issuing the license_ defaces it. The deputy clerks who agreed to issue licenses told the court they’d be scratching out Davis’ name, though, so as far as compliance goes I don’t think this is an issue. It _is_ an issue in terms of the validity of the licenses, as I’ve noted, but that’s not Bunning’s problem.

Are the licences free, or do people pay for them?

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**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2015, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1280 "2015-09-17T03:40:18Z")

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There is a fee.

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