# Fuck you, Rowan County (KY) Clerk Kim Davis **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 13, 2015, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757 "2015-08-13T18:09:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Spud](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spud/32/347_2.png) [@Spud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spud)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/121 "2015-08-17T01:00:01Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > And this very close family friend happens to be gay, right? Oh, and wants to get married while still in college. Sure. Are you fucking kidding me… I really don’t know if she is gay or not and it really doesn’t matter. Actually I know that she in the past had a black boyfriend… should we hold that against her (she is white). And I married my wife on campus about a week after she graduated,… we’ve been married 28 years. What the hell does this have to do with anything? You said nobody had a loved one in that county. I think of a “loved one” as someone related by blood or marriage. She is not, but I’ve known her since she was 8 and I would gladly give her one of my kidneys if she needed one, and I’m pretty sure she would do the same for me. Therefore you are wrong. You said nobody knew where this county was… I do and I would guess many others do as well. Again you are wrong. I do know that both she and I have gay friends and I don’t think someone should be able to break the law because they don’t agree with it. You are just proving yourself to be a bigger and bigger asshole every time you post. Are you trying? ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/122 "2015-08-17T01:04:46Z")
So your family friend isn’t affected by the County Clerk, either. But you’re OUTRAGED nonetheless. Got it. ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/123 "2015-08-17T01:08:16Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > So your family friend isn’t affected by the County Clerk, either. But you’re OUTRAGED nonetheless. Got it. Well, whether she wants to get opposite- or same-sex married, she would be affected by the County Clerk, since Ms. Davis isn’t issuing _any_ marriage licenses. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/124 "2015-08-17T01:10:02Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > So your family friend isn’t affected by the County Clerk, either. But you’re OUTRAGED nonetheless. Got it. That kind of attitude has the potential to affect the rest of the county if others feel they can do as they please rather than the duties they swore to perform. The clerk’s attitude, to be clear. ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/125 "2015-08-17T01:10:39Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > So your family friend isn’t affected by the County Clerk, either. But you’re OUTRAGED nonetheless. Got it. I don’t know anyone that was beheaded in Syria either you giant sack of shit. ---
**Author:** ![boytyperanma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4491bb/32.png) [@boytyperanma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/boytyperanma)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/126 "2015-08-17T01:11:13Z")
> [@Spud](#): > > You are just proving yourself to be a bigger and bigger asshole every time you post. Are you trying? I think that’s the only reason he posts. The board would be better off overall if he was ignored by everyone, so people stopped falling for the troll. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/127 "2015-08-17T01:13:49Z")
> [@boytyperanma](#): > > I think that’s the only reason he posts. The board would be better off overall if he was ignored by everyone, so people stopped falling for the troll. The shit would flow regardless. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/128 "2015-08-17T01:14:42Z")
> [@RitterSport](#): > > Well, whether she wants to get opposite- or same-sex married, she would be affected by the County Clerk, since Ms. Davis isn’t issuing _any_ marriage licenses. Thanks for the clarification. ---
**Author:** ![Spud](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spud/32/347_2.png) [@Spud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spud)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/129 "2015-08-17T01:16:49Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > So your family friend isn’t affected by the County Clerk, either. But you’re OUTRAGED nonetheless. Got it. Does this change anything about the fact that you were totally wrong on two of your four statements? ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/130 "2015-08-17T01:43:21Z")
> [@Spud](#): > > Does this change anything about the fact that you were totally wrong on two of your four statements? Yes, I acknowledged the correction in the post above yours. ---
**Author:** ![Spud](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spud/32/347_2.png) [@Spud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spud)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/131 "2015-08-17T02:07:29Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > Yes, I acknowledged the correction in the post above yours. Sorry, but “Thanks for the clarification” doesn’t acknowledge the error. I’m not an educator but a 50% I believe is an F which stands for Fail. I did the math for you because I’m pretty sure you are no better at that than you are at human rights, compassion, or constitutional law. ---
**Author:** ![DoctorJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctorj/32/2904_2.png) [@DoctorJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DoctorJ)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/132 "2015-08-17T02:36:36Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > How many SDMB posters live in Rowan County, KY? > > Zero > > How many SDMB posters have loved ones in Rowan County, KY? > > Zero > > How many SDMB posters even know where Rowan County, Kentucky IS? > > Zero > > And yet, the Mundane and Pointless RO is going in full force. :smack: I live an hour and change away, have friends there, know dozens of people who went to school there, and have several close friends who have kids going to school there now. Is that enough of a connection that I’m allowed to care? If it isn’t, how about this: this nutjob makes the whole state of Kentucky, and especially in eastern Kentucky, look bad. A lot of us are trying really hard to drag this region into the 21st century, and this doesn’t fucking help. The clerk in my own county (who, in his sort-of defense, has been showing serious signs of dementia in recent months) gave a batshit interview in which his biggest complaint is that the new forms they have to use list “Spouse 1” and “Spouse 2” instead of “Bride” and “Groom”, and he would want his granddaughter to be listed as a bride, dammit. He made it clear that he personally objected to the SCOTUS ruling but stopped short of saying he’d deny marriage licenses to SS couples. (It doesn’t appear to have come up here yet; unlike Rowan Co., we don’t have a university.) I wish there were a good way to force Davis to do her job (or to somehow get her job done) without making her a martyr. My favorite detail of all of this, which I haven’t actually seen confirmed but I have heard from local people, is that Davis is such a fan of “traditional marriage” that she’s had four of them. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/133 "2015-08-17T02:59:28Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > What is wrong is five unelected judges in D.C. telling people in Rowan County, KY what to do. Do you live in Rowan County, Kentucky? Are you personally affected in any way by the ruling, such as being a clerk who issues marriage licenses? If not, why are you so upset by the ruling? It doesn’t affect you in any way, so why the recreational outrage about what the Supreme Court did? ---
**Author:** ![Spud](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spud/32/347_2.png) [@Spud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spud)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/134 "2015-08-17T03:30:51Z")
Maybe D’Anconia is still steamed about not being granted that marriage license to him and his sister/cousin/mother/aunt/hostage in his state. ---
**Author:** ![bizzwire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/958977/32.png) [@bizzwire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bizzwire)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/135 "2015-08-17T04:22:19Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > Like the civil servants in San Francisco, Chicago and other places that are so-called sanctuary cities? Do you live in San Francisco or Chicago? If not, “why bother getting outraged about things that you have no control over, and have nothing to do with you?” ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/136 "2015-08-17T04:41:21Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > If not, why are you so upset by the ruling? It doesn’t affect you in any way, so why the recreational outrage about what the Supreme Court did? I’m not upset about the ruling per se. We already had SSM in my state. What is annoying are leftists who are inconsistent in their criticism of the SCOTUS. According to politicians like the President and the Democrat Minority Leader, _Citizens United_ is a dire and ongoing threat to the nation. I don’t think that’s an exaggeration of Harry Reid’s position, since he still inserts it into his floor speeches on a regular basis, more than five years after the ruling. But suddenly the justices are geniuses when they uphold Obamacare and gay marriage. By my reading of the cases in the upcoming Term, the left will be back to jeering the Court’s decisions. ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/137 "2015-08-17T06:45:57Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > . . . But suddenly the justices are geniuses when they uphold Obamacare and gay marriage. . . . Cite, please? I know of no one who has said this. Most of us believe this was the correct decision, but I defy you to find anyone who has called it “genius.” You’re a strange and very dishonest form of toad. You can only argue by putting up fallacious opinions and attributing them to others. I’d like to dip the points of my arrows into your sweat. ---
**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 7:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/138 "2015-08-17T07:48:29Z")
What the decision upholding Obamacare comes down to is this: The will of the people, as expressed by their elected representatives, shouldn’t be denied because a key part of a law was badly drafted. That law has a real impact on the lives of a nontrivial number of real people, and it shouldn’t be destroyed by a capriciously literal reading which either second-guesses or ignores the intent of the people who created it and made it law. In short, that decision preserved the will of the people in the face of a minor incompetence perpetrated by their representatives. Besides, if you can’t accept a decision which doesn’t rely on the strictest construction of all of the text available, _Heller_ goes right out the window. The majority holding in _Obergefell_ is correct because being able to get married to another consenting adult of your choice is a basic human right. It should never have required a vote or a court case to begin with. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 10:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/139 "2015-08-17T10:54:18Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > Are you a Kentuckian? A resident of Rowan County? I’m an American. I’m free to travel to Rowan County, and to take up residence there if I wish. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [August 17, 2015, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/140 "2015-08-17T12:18:13Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > What is annoying are leftists who are inconsistent in their criticism of the SCOTUS. Do you think this is only true of leftists? _Everyone_ is going to like some court decisions and dislike or disagree with others. Sometimes the disagreement is based on a interpretation of the facts and laws at issue and sometimes the disagreement is simply based on not liking the decision. And this is true even of non-legal issues. Ever been to a sports game? People will agree or disagree with the umpire or the referee based on whether their team was ruled against. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757.md?page=8)