# Fuck you, Rowan County (KY) Clerk Kim Davis **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 13, 2015, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757 "2015-08-13T18:09:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 76
**Author:** ![Fubaya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@Fubaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fubaya)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2015, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1501 "2015-09-30T15:21:22Z")
Well, now it seems that God has weighed in on the subject and claims it’s true: [https://mobile.twitter.com/TheTweetOfGod/status/649240439967625216?ref\_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^tweet](https://mobile.twitter.com/TheTweetOfGod/status/649240439967625216?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet) ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2015, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1502 "2015-09-30T15:27:17Z")
> [@Fubaya](#): > > Does the Pope do any meet and greet type things that basically anybody can get into? Meeting the Pope doesn’t seem far fetched, but having the Pope call you and sneak you in to a private meeting is a little too much. > > The Vatican refusing to deny it just sounds to me like “Never heard of her but the Pope shook thousands of hands of people he didn’t know so we can’t say no.” [QUOTE=[http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/30/us/county-clerk-kim-davis-who-denied-gay-couples-visited-pope.html](http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/30/us/county-clerk-kim-davis-who-denied-gay-couples-visited-pope.html)] Mr. Staver, her lawyer, said Vatican officials had been aware of Ms. Davis, and that the meeting had been arranged through them — not through bishops or the bishops’ conference in the United States. He would not identify the Vatican officials. [/QUOTE] But there’s nothing there to suggest thta the meeting was long enough for the “pope to agree with her” on actual facts/principles - and more likely an 'agreement to stand firm" (whatever that means). ---
**Author:** ![xenophon41](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xenophon41/32/253_2.png) [@xenophon41](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xenophon41)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2015, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1503 "2015-09-30T15:27:23Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Kim Davis thought her request for support had been answered by a note reading “POPE: YES” but it turns out it was just a napkin from Popeyes. \ ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2015, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1504 "2015-09-30T15:30:12Z")
> [@Fubaya](#): > > Well, now it seems that God has weighed in on the subject and claims it’s true: [x.com](https://mobile.twitter.com/TheTweetOfGod/status/649240439967625216?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet) Thats hilarious. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2015, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1505 "2015-09-30T15:33:16Z")
Let me just re-add what I said onthe previous page - I do not care if the Pope ‘agrees with her’ in any way shape or form - he doesn’t write the laws for this country, and that is what she is currently violiating. She has every right to ‘object’ as an individual - she does not get to deny the rights of others based on that. ---
**Author:** ![Kenm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bc79bd/32.png) [@Kenm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kenm)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2015, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1506 "2015-09-30T15:36:35Z")
Why is the leader of a centuries-old hate organization dedicated to fucking babies embracing a rabid homophobe not believable? ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2015, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1507 "2015-09-30T15:40:21Z")
> [@Kenm](#): > > Why is the leader of a centuries-old hate organization dedicated to fucking babies …I think I must have skipped over that part of the Bible. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2015, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1508 "2015-09-30T15:46:12Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > …I think I must have skipped over that part of the Bible. The part of the Bible that mentions establishing the Roman Church also seems to be missing. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2015, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1509 "2015-09-30T15:51:59Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > The part of the Bible that mentions establishing the Roman Church also seems to be missing. [QUOTE=Matthew 16:18-19] And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it. I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will bee loosed in heaven. [/QUOTE] That’s the scriptural argument the Catholic church uses, anyway. Where are you getting “dedicated to fucking babies” from? ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2015, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1510 "2015-09-30T15:54:41Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > The part of the Bible that mentions establishing the Roman Church also seems to be missing. something about peter and a rock I think - ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2015, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1511 "2015-09-30T16:02:36Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Where are you getting “dedicated to fucking babies” from? Pedophile priest hyperbole? ---
**Author:** ![Ambrosio\_Spinola](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9de0a6/32.png) [@Ambrosio\_Spinola](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambrosio_Spinola)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2015, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1512 "2015-09-30T16:03:39Z")
I was pretty sure that Apostolic Christians don’t seek the blessing of the pope for _anything_, so whatever else I guess it’s a step forward for ecumenism. ---
**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2015, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1513 "2015-09-30T16:10:06Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Sorry, but I’m going to need more than this: A spokesman for the Vatican confirmed the visit. What more do you need for confirmation that the visit occurred? ---
**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2015, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1514 "2015-09-30T16:12:13Z")
> [@Frylock](#): > > A spokesman for the Vatican confirmed the visit. What more do you need for confirmation that the visit occurred? I guess you’re relying on the non equivalence between affirming and not denying. Given the context, ‘I don’t debt’ is a confirmation. What would be needed for your reading is ‘I neither confirm nor deny.’ ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2015, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1515 "2015-09-30T16:12:28Z")
> [@Frylock](#): > > A spokesman for the Vatican confirmed the visit. What more do you need for confirmation that the visit occurred? A spokesman for the Vatican _refused to deny_ the visit. That’s not the same thing as confirming it, or saying that it in any way resembled Davis’ description of events. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2015, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1516 "2015-09-30T16:14:52Z")
> [@Frylock](#): > > A spokesman for the Vatican confirmed the visit. What more do you need for confirmation that the visit occurred? No, he did not confirm the visit. ---
**Author:** ![Terr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2015, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1517 "2015-09-30T16:21:33Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > No, he did not confirm the visit. “I do not deny that the meeting took place, but I have no other comments to add,” he said. That’s a confirmation. ---
**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2015, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1518 "2015-09-30T16:24:36Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > A spokesman for the Vatican _refused to deny_ the visit. > > That’s not the same thing as confirming it, or saying that it in any way resembled Davis’ description of events. I didn’t say it resembled her description and if asked 'did it happen,: the reply ‘I don’t deny it’ pragmatically unless it did happen. ---
**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2015, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1519 "2015-09-30T16:25:40Z")
^implies, not unless ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2015, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1520 "2015-09-30T16:26:56Z")
> [@Terr](#): > > “I do not deny that the meeting took place, but I have no other comments to add,” he said. > > That’s a confirmation. Refusal to deny != confirmation. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757.md?page=75) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757.md?page=77)