# Fuck you, Rowan County (KY) Clerk Kim Davis **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 13, 2015, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757 "2015-08-13T18:09:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 85
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2017, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1681 "2017-07-22T20:45:30Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > I just found that out from an actual fucking lawyer. The only way a fucking lawyer would tell you what you have asserted is if the fucking lawyer was fucking iwth your mind. It’s more likely that you were talking to your cat. You wouldn’t recognize a lawyer who deals with costs considerations most working days if one was talking with you in this thread. > [@BigT](#): > > IT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE TO ATTACK SOMEONE FOR THEIR MENTAL ILLNESS. And don’t play coy. That’s what you were doing. You were saying the hardships of my life, which are primarily caused by my mental illness, are caused by stupidity. You were blaming me. You are being criticized for being both pompous and dumber than dog shit. I couldn’t care whether you are mentally ill or not. If you want to blame your pomposity and stupidity on your mental illness, then by all means do so, but don’t expect to parade them about like badges of honour and not get called on it. > [@BigT](#): > > I want to be a Christian. So did Rowan County Clerk Kim Davis and a great many members of the Kentucky legislature. Take your christianity and shove it up your dumb ass, dumbass. ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2017, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1682 "2017-07-22T20:47:18Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > Yes, I understand what is happening, you goddamned fucking assholes. Snipped. No, you don’t. 42 USC 1988 allows Federal courts, at their discretion, to award “reasonable” fees for cases involving civil rights. It has literally nothing to do with cases having no merit or being frivolous. Nothing. Nothing! The main issue the Federal judge was dealing with was whether Rowan County or the Kentucky Commonwealth was on the hook when the judge decided to award attorney’s fees. Kentucky didn’t step in and offer to pay the fees. [http://www.aclu-ky.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Kim-Davis-Fees-Order.pdf](http://www.aclu-ky.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Kim-Davis-Fees-Order.pdf) So you have got literally none of the facts right. > [@](#): > > IT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE TO ATTACK SOMEONE FOR THEIR MENTAL ILLNESS. I agree. But I know literally nothing about you, or your history. You posted something that has literally zero relation to the facts of a news story and I sought to challenge your ill-informed opinion. If you think that any of my response is a commentary on any medical issue you have, that is a result of your assumptions or misunderstandings, as opposed to anything written by me. So if you were yelling at me, you owe me an apology, not the other way around. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2017, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1683 "2017-07-22T20:58:23Z")
_Weber, leave Big Tard alone!_ ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2017, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1684 "2017-07-22T21:10:07Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > Yes, I understand what is happening, you goddamned fucking assholes. I just fucking read it. Kim Weber is not only responsible for a judgement, but also attorney’s fees. That she is responsible for attorney’s fees means that her entire fucking lawsuit had no merit from the beginning. That’s why such fees are given. Otherwise fees are not returned. I just found that out from an actual fucking lawyer. Furthermore, a lawsuit that is brought when the lawyers know it has no merit is commonly called a frivolous lawsuit. Kim Weber’s lawsuit is frivolous, because she and her lawyers knew she had no right to do what they did, and decided to roll the dice. > > But Kentucky has offered to pay this instead of her, which you guys just quoted. Which means that Kentucky is paying so that Kim Weber doesn’t face the actual consequences for her actions. It also sends a signal to other people with similar suits that they can also sue, and, if they fail, Kentucky will pick up the tab. > > If you want to challenge anything I said, I’m fine with that. But attacking me without even bothering to challenge anything only implies you don’t have any counterargument. You can attack me all you want, but you’d better actually have something to back it up. > > Well, almost. There are some attacks that are beyond the pale, and one of you chose to use it. IT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE TO ATTACK SOMEONE FOR THEIR MENTAL ILLNESS. And don’t play coy. That’s what you were doing. You were saying the hardships of my life, which are primarily caused by my mental illness, are caused by stupidity. You were blaming me. > > This is no different than attacking someone for being gay or being black. I will not tolerate this bigotry, and I don’t give a shit if other people come in and try to argue it’s not bigotry. > > So the gloves are off with you. I generally hope you get a mental illness. I genuinely hope you have to suffer at least some of what I’ve suffered. I said I would not wish this on my worst enemy, but things have changed. > > Human garbage like you needs to fucking learn that this is not acceptable. If that means you have to face suffering to do it, then I will gladly rejoice in your suffering. > > I want to be a Christian. I want to be a nice guy. But not when it means letting evil like you walk about. You have exactly one chance to say you are sorry, and then this is fucking over. Again, STFU, **BigTurd**! ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2017, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1685 "2017-07-22T21:33:41Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > I just found that out from an actual fucking lawyer. Cite please. Without mentioning you or the SDMB either directly or indirectly, I’d like to give this lawyer a call for a professional opinion on costs in the extant matter, 'cause I’m finding it hard to believe that you consulted with a lawyer even more ignorant that you. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2017, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1686 "2017-07-22T21:39:37Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > IT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE TO ATTACK SOMEONE FOR THEIR MENTAL ILLNESS. I didn’t realize “sanctimonious asshole” was in the DSM. ---
**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2017, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1687 "2017-07-22T21:54:31Z")
So the State of Kentucky learned their lesson about not firing her for not doing her job. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2017, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1688 "2017-07-22T22:05:03Z")
> [@tnetennba](#): > > So the State of Kentucky learned their lesson about not firing her for not doing her job. Yes, this was my thought. And this is why I think the taxpayers _should_ bear the costs, since otherwise the plaintiff’s lawyers would not get paid at all. Of course, it’s unfair on the minority of Kentucky taxpayers who would have been on the right side of the issue in the first place; but how else could this work? If the taxpayers don’t like these consequences, they can express their feelings through the ballot box. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2017, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1689 "2017-07-22T22:07:24Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > I didn’t realize “sanctimonious asshole” was in the DSM. It’s in BigT’s version, which is known as the B-DSM. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2017, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1690 "2017-07-22T22:08:12Z")
> [@tnetennba](#): > > So the State of Kentucky learned their lesson about not firing her for not doing her job. A good example of the expression “The buck stops here here.” ---
**Author:** ![JackieLikesVariety](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackielikesvariety/32/296_2.png) [@JackieLikesVariety](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JackieLikesVariety)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2017, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1691 "2017-07-22T22:10:21Z")
> [@tnetennba](#): > > So the State of Kentucky learned their lesson about not firing her for not doing her job. I certainly hope so! Big T? have you considered getting off the internet for awhile? take a walk or something. anything. go get an ice cream cone, seriously. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2017, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1692 "2017-07-22T22:13:34Z")
> [@tnetennba](#): > > So the State of Kentucky learned their lesson about not firing her for not doing her job. If you’re referrimg to the people of the state, then you don’t know bigots. Now, of course I know not everybody in the state of Kentucky is a bigot. But it’s a guarantee the bigots who are there will proudly whine about how unfair these court decisions are and, if Davis were eligible to run for political office again (I don’t know if she’s eligible or not), they’ll vote for her because she’s a damn martyr and a “good Christian”. She proved that, in their minds, by pissing all over Matthew 5:37. If that idiot is eligible to run for office again and does run, she’ll get elected in a landslide. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2017, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1693 "2017-07-22T22:47:19Z")
> [@tnetennba](#): > > So the State of Kentucky learned their lesson about not firing her for not doing her job. Can the state fire an elected official? Wouldn’t it require impeachment proceedings? ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2017, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1694 "2017-07-22T22:56:16Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > Yes, I understand what is happening, you goddamned fucking assholes. I just fucking read it. Kim Weber is not only responsible for a judgement, but also attorney’s fees. That she is responsible for attorney’s fees means that her entire fucking lawsuit had no merit from the beginning. That’s why such fees are given. Otherwise fees are not returned. I just found that out from an actual fucking lawyer. Furthermore, a lawsuit that is brought when the lawyers know it has no merit is commonly called a frivolous lawsuit. Kim Weber’s lawsuit is frivolous, because she and her lawyers knew she had no right to do what they did, and decided to roll the dice. > > But Kentucky has offered to pay this instead of her, which you guys just quoted. Which means that Kentucky is paying so that Kim Weber doesn’t face the actual consequences for her actions. It also sends a signal to other people with similar suits that they can also sue, and, if they fail, Kentucky will pick up the tab. > > If you want to challenge anything I said, I’m fine with that. But attacking me without even bothering to challenge anything only implies you don’t have any counterargument. You can attack me all you want, but you’d better actually have something to back it up. > > Well, almost. There are some attacks that are beyond the pale, and one of you chose to use it. IT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE TO ATTACK SOMEONE FOR THEIR MENTAL ILLNESS. And don’t play coy. That’s what you were doing. You were saying the hardships of my life, which are primarily caused by my mental illness, are caused by stupidity. You were blaming me. > > This is no different than attacking someone for being gay or being black. I will not tolerate this bigotry, and I don’t give a shit if other people come in and try to argue it’s not bigotry. > > So the gloves are off with you. I generally hope you get a mental illness. I genuinely hope you have to suffer at least some of what I’ve suffered. I said I would not wish this on my worst enemy, but things have changed. > > Human garbage like you needs to fucking learn that this is not acceptable. If that means you have to face suffering to do it, then I will gladly rejoice in your suffering. > > I want to be a Christian. I want to be a nice guy. But not when it means letting evil like you walk about. You have exactly one chance to say you are sorry, and then this is fucking over. U off ur meds, bro? ---
**Author:** ![Human\_Action](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@Human\_Action](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Human_Action)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2017, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1695 "2017-07-22T22:58:44Z")
> [@tnetennba](#): > > So the State of Kentucky learned their lesson about not firing her for not doing her job. As an elected official, Davis couldn’t [be fired](http://www.newsweek.com/why-kim-davis-cant-be-fired-marriage-licenses-368902), only impeached by the General Assembly, which was not in session during her pathetic stand for her hateful ideals. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2017, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1696 "2017-07-22T23:22:54Z")
The State and only the state has the authority to permit marriages. The State chose to delegate this authority to elected county officials. The State had the authority to convene a special session to dump the dodo. From top to bottom, the state held responsibility, but it failed to meet its responsibility, so it is now being held responsible by the court. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2017, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1697 "2017-07-23T00:16:40Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > If you’re referrimg to the people of the state, then you don’t know bigots. Now, of course I know not everybody in the state of Kentucky is a bigot. But it’s a guarantee the bigots who are there will proudly whine about how unfair these court decisions are and, if Davis were eligible to run for political office again (I don’t know if she’s eligible or not), they’ll vote for her because she’s a damn martyr and a “good Christian”. She proved that, in their minds, by pissing all over Matthew 5:37. > > If that idiot is eligible to run for office again and does run, she’ll get elected in a landslide. And she’s a patriot, too! A true American patriot!! ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2017, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1698 "2017-07-23T00:46:34Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > Well, almost. There are some attacks that are beyond the pale, and one of you chose to use it. IT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE TO ATTACK SOMEONE FOR THEIR MENTAL ILLNESS. And don’t play coy. That’s what you were doing. You were saying the hardships of my life, which are primarily caused by my mental illness, are caused by stupidity. You were blaming me. I blame you too. Many, many, MANY people with mental illnesses are able to learn coping techniques, or go to therapy or take appropriate medication. You’re just a dumbass, morally bankrupt, self-indulgent, drama-queen of a toad. And nobody likes you. And you probably smell like cat-pee. > [@](#): > > Human garbage like you needs to fucking learn that this is not acceptable. If that means you have to face suffering to do it, then I will gladly rejoice in your suffering. > > I want to be a Christian. I want to be a nice guy. But not when it means letting evil like you walk about. That’s what Jesus said in Acts (of Vengeance), 5:39 “But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, then I shall cap thy ass and dance in thy bloody innards, because thou art human garbage. Now go ahead and make my day, punk.” You are a sad, impotent, pathetic little man. I _do_ feel sorry for your mom though, given that she has to live with a violent crazy-ass rage-monkey like you. > [@](#): > > You have exactly one chance to say you are sorry, and then this is fucking over. And you’ll…what? Pout silently in your basement, hoping you won’t get attacked by casein? Climb to the top of a bell-tower and start shooting at people? Stick around and keep trolling like you’ve been doing all these years? Oh, Just in case anyone _does_ say they’re sorry, I, using an obscure Dope precedent\* retract their apology. Hell for each “I’m sorry” anyone offers you, I retract it by unapologizing ∞[sup]∞[/sup] times. \*Here. Read the first post then jump to post #98.. I’m using the Symmetric Property to justify Kudos=Apologies. And if you can take back kudos, you can take back apologies. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2017, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1699 "2017-07-23T01:11:16Z")
> [@JackieLikesVariety](#): > > I certainly hope so! > > Big T? have you considered getting off the internet for awhile? take a walk or something. anything. go get an ice cream cone, seriously. Go buy yourself some cheese. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2017, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1700 "2017-07-23T01:54:00Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > IT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE TO ATTACK SOMEONE FOR THEIR MENTAL ILLNESS. Your MENTAL ILLNESS is not an accuse for the continuous self-absorbent nagging nonsense you post here. Get out of the basement, and get a life. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757.md?page=84) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757.md?page=86)