# Fuck you, Rowan County (KY) Clerk Kim Davis

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 13, 2015, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757 "2015-08-13T18:09:20Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2017, 11:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1721 "2017-12-07T11:04:58Z")

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This is where progressives have to concentrate their energies first and foremost: local elections. The conservatives have been dominating this battlefield for years. It’s time we change that.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2017, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1722 "2017-12-07T15:03:27Z")

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> [@Roderick\_Femm](#):
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> Now THAT’s a campaign I would gladly contribute to. Looking it up now…

Let us know if you find a good link.

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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2017, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1723 "2017-12-07T15:09:27Z")

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[This seems like the correct place](https://davidermold.ngpvanhost.com/onlineactions/ycLfu8B0zUOpGdB6eX2ZFQ2)

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**Author:** ![Pork\_Rind](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pork_rind/32/111_2.png) [@Pork\_Rind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pork_Rind)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2017, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1724 "2017-12-07T15:10:46Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> Let us know if you find a good link.

[http://www.davidermold.com](http://www.davidermold.com)

I donated (with glee) last night.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2017, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1725 "2017-12-07T17:32:16Z")

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> [@Muffin](#):
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> The only way a fucking lawyer would tell you what you have asserted is if the fucking lawyer was fucking iwth your mind. It’s more likely that you were talking to your cat. You wouldn’t recognize a lawyer who deals with costs considerations most working days if one was talking with you in this thread.

The “actual fucking lawyer” was correct that attorney’s fees are _generally_ only awarded to prevailing parties when the underlying suit (or defense) was frivolous. Unfortunately, **BigT** thought that if 2 + 2 = 4, 2 + 3 must also equal 4.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2017, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1726 "2017-12-07T20:47:25Z")

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I had to laugh that the guy who’s running against her sat down at her desk to file the paperwork to run against her. The photo was perfect.  
(Unfortunately, the link is to Fox News)

> **[Gay man denied marriage license to challenge Kentucky clerk Kim Davis](https://www.foxnews.com/politics/gay-man-denied-marriage-license-to-challenge-kentucky-clerk-kim-davis)**
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> David Ermold returned to the Rowan County courthouse Wednesday, nearly two years after Clerk Kim Davis refused to give him a marriage license because he was gay.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2019, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1727 "2019-01-31T17:14:57Z")

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Hey there, Bible fans! As you were travelling to Ark Encounter in Kentucky, did your bus happen to go over an unusually large speed bump? If so, it was probably Kim Davis after Governor Matt Bevin threw her under the bus.

Despite his previous gushing support for her, [Bevin now says Davis must foot the bill for her legal fees](https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/kentucky-clerk-kim-davis-may-have-hefty-legal-bill-gay-n965301).

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> As a candidate for governor in 2015, Matt Bevin said he “absolutely supported” a Kentucky county clerk who stopped issuing marriage licenses because of her opposition to gay marriage.
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> But four years later, after a court ordered Kentucky taxpayers to pay more than $222,000 in legal fees for the gay and straight couples who sued, outside lawyers for now Gov. Bevin say former Rowan County clerk Kim Davis broke the law and taxpayers “should not have to collectively bear the financial responsibility for Davis’ intransigence.”

So…who wants popcorn?

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2019, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1728 "2019-01-31T17:33:44Z")

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I’m sure she’ll have no trouble raising the dough thru GoFundMe or one of those anti-gay “Family Council” (whatever) groups.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2019, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1729 "2019-01-31T17:37:42Z")

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That pizza joint in Indiana pulled in 4 or 5 times that much from the Leviticans. She can get it too.

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**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2019, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1730 "2019-01-31T18:13:22Z")

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Oh Kim, Kim, Kim…_whatcha_ gonna do about Kim…

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**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2019, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1731 "2019-01-31T18:20:55Z")

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> [@Guest-starring\_Id](#):
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> Oh Kim, Kim, Kim…_whatcha_ gonna do about Kim…

I prefer to do without Kim.  
Hee hee hee…Kim’s not gonna get it for free…

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2019, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1732 "2019-01-31T18:26:54Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> Hey there, Bible fans! As you were travelling to Ark Encounter in Kentucky, did your bus happen to go over an unusually large speed bump? If so, it was probably Kim Davis after Governor Matt Bevin threw her under the bus.
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> Despite his previous gushing support for her, [Bevin now says Davis must foot the bill for her legal fees](https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/kentucky-clerk-kim-davis-may-have-hefty-legal-bill-gay-n965301).  
> So…who wants popcorn?

Nitpick: they’re fighting over who should have to pay the _plaintiffs’_ legal fees (that is, the couples who sued her). Her own defense was provided by professional religious assholes Liberty Counsel _pro bono._

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**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2019, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1733 "2019-01-31T19:37:03Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> Nitpick: they’re fighting over who should have to pay the _plaintiffs’_ legal fees (that is, the couples who sued her). Her own defense was provided by professional religious assholes Liberty Counsel _pro bono._

Yeah, it may be tougher for fundies to give her CrowdFund support if they know it’ll be lining the pockets of The Gayz.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2019, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1734 "2019-01-31T22:27:34Z")

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> [@xenophon41](#):
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> Right now, all I’m thinking is “Fuck you assholes.” This is why I rarely post here any more.

+1

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**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2019, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1735 "2019-01-31T22:35:21Z")

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Is Kim Davis in any way personally liable for the plaintiffs’ legal fees if the state doesn’t cover it?

I’m reading this more as Bevin saying “we may have lost, but be damned if we’re going to pay for it”.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2019, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1736 "2019-01-31T23:56:35Z")

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I don’t know the answer to that, but while I’m here I’d like to say: Fuck you, Kim Davis. I hope things are going very poorly for you in your life generally, and that you are suffering from some kind of grievous physical pain that just can’t be stopped.

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**Author:** ![F.U.Shakespeare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/aca169/32.png) [@F.U.Shakespeare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/F.U.Shakespeare)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2019, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1737 "2019-02-01T00:53:59Z")

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> [@Lumpy](#):
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> Is Kim Davis in any way personally liable for the plaintiffs’ legal fees if the state doesn’t cover it?
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> I’m reading this more as Bevin saying “we may have lost, but be damned if we’re going to pay for it”.

Maybe. But now he’s defining “we” to not include Davis.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1738 "2020-10-05T23:02:23Z")

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Bumped.

> **[U.S. Supreme Court rebuffs appeal by official who opposed gay marriage](https://www.aol.com/article/news/2020/10/05/us-supreme-court-rebuffs-appeal-by-official-who-opposed-gay-marriage/24641667/)**
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> The U.S. Supreme Court rebuffed a bid by a county clerk in Kentucky briefly jailed in 2015 for refusing to issue marriage licenses to two same-sex couples.

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1739 "2020-10-05T23:21:28Z")

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Clarence and Alito are still objecting to the Obergefell ruling that says that states cannot outlaw same sex marriage, calling it a violation of the religious rights of anyone who objects on religious grounds and who, by virtue of their job, has to participate.

Any county who has such employees and wants to establish a workaround so they don’t have to participate in the process can always do so (e.g. have an alternate person who can act as clerk in such cases) if they are willing to absorb the expense. Blame the counties for not having such arrangements, don’t blame the law. But these justices seem to want a system where one relevant person’s objection can prevent anyone in the county from getting married. That’s not rule of law, it’s rule of superstition.

How many more religious nutcases on the SCOTUS before someone will successfully challenge Obergefell?

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**Author:** ![Chingon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chingon/32/17645_2.png) [@Chingon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chingon)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2020, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1740 "2020-10-05T23:26:05Z")

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Uhh, one?

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