# Fuck you, Rowan County (KY) Clerk Kim Davis

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 13, 2015, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757 "2015-08-13T18:09:20Z")\
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**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2022, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1741 "2022-03-19T01:37:58Z")

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Bump.

Self righteous homophobe in the news again.

[Federal judge rules Kim Davis violated couples’ constitutional rights; will go to trial over damages](https://www.wsaz.com/2022/03/18/federal-judge-rules-kim-davis-violated-couples-constitutional-rights-will-go-trial-over-damages/)

> ASHLAND, Ky. (WKYT) - A federal judge has ruled that former Rowan County Clerk Kim Davis violated the constitutional rights of two same-sex couples when she denied them marriage licenses during the summer of 2015.
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> In an order published Friday afternoon, United States District Judge David L. Bunning of the Eastern District of Kentucky granted summary judgment in a civil lawsuit that the two couples, David Ermold and David Moore, and James Yates and Will Smith, filed against Davis.
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> That settles - without a trial - the question of whether Davis violated their constitutional rights, but no decision has been made yet on whether Davis will be on the hook for the likely hundreds of thousands of dollars in legal fees accrued over the six-and-a-half years of litigation.

I’m fine with her being financially ruined for her actions in support of her beliefs.

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**Post date:** [March 19, 2022, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1742 "2022-03-19T01:45:41Z")

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She can just set up a Go Fund Me page, and I’m sure there will be plenty of fundamentalist fucktards that will be happy to bail her out.

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**Post date:** [March 19, 2022, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1743 "2022-03-19T02:35:51Z")

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> [@Projammer](#):
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> United States District Judge David L. Bunning

Fun fact: this judge is Jim Bunning’s kid. Bunning was a US Senator representing Kentucky and before that he played major league baseball including pitching the seventh perfect game in MLB history on June 21, 1964.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2022, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1744 "2022-03-19T04:47:04Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> The “actual fucking lawyer” was correct that attorney’s fees are _generally_ only awarded to prevailing parties when the underlying suit (or defense) was frivolous. Unfortunately, **BigT** thought that if 2 + 2 = 4, 2 + 3 must also equal 4.

And if this had been the primary type of response I got back then, I would not have gotten so upset. I am not against people telling me I made an incorrect inference or am wrong about facts. The problem was jumping straight to gratuitous abuse.

I also thank you for spending a few seconds to think where I might have gone wrong, rather than just assuming I had started having delusional thoughts or was lying. And I thank posters like @xenophon41 and @dropzone for figuring out that there is a line between getting angry and piling on abuse. And while I won’t go up and mention them all, I thank everyone who gave me advice to abandon the thread—even if I didn’t need it as I had already left. (I had learned by then to recognize the hate machine and leave. I only replied in the first place because I had been blindsided by the reaction. I always left when it became clear I was being used as the whipping boy.)

I know best practice would just be to let sleeping dogs lie, but, after scrolling through that mess, I felt the need to at least thank some people, and to appreciate how far this board has come. This is why I assume claims that the Pit is too horrible are based on how it used to be.

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As for Davis, I hope she is put on the hook and has to pay for this. The people she harmed didn’t deserve to have to fight so hard. I am, however, disappointed with how long it has taken (though not surprised).

And, with this Court, I am not unconcerned that the decision she was “protesting” might not be overturned, especially if (as expected) the right to abortion gets overturned. I mean, look at this “don’t say gay” bill nonsense.

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**Post date:** [March 19, 2022, 7:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1745 "2022-03-19T07:25:37Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> And, with this Court, I am not unconcerned that the decision she was “protesting” might not be overturned, especially if (as expected) the right to abortion gets overturned.

I’m not uncertain I’m parsing your triple-negative sentence incorrectly, but I think this sentence says the opposite of what I suspect you really mean it to say.

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**Author:** ![F.U.Shakespeare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/aca169/32.png) [@F.U.Shakespeare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/F.U.Shakespeare)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2022, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1746 "2022-03-19T12:23:51Z")

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> [@Roderick\_Femm](#):
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> Clarence and Alito are still objecting to the Obergefell ruling that says that states cannot outlaw same sex marriage, calling it a violation of the religious rights of anyone who objects on religious grounds and who, by virtue of their job, has to participate.

Gee, Clarence is lucky that wasn’t how _Loving v. Virginia_ was handled.

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**Post date:** [March 19, 2022, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1747 "2022-03-19T12:27:59Z")

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> [@F.U.Shakespeare](#):
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> Gee, Clarence is lucky that wasn’t how _Loving v. Virginia_ was handled. -

Odds he’s ever heard of it?

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**Post date:** [March 21, 2022, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1748 "2022-03-21T18:25:19Z")

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That’s the third song in the GQP’s repertoire, “The Pull-The-Ladder-Up-After-You Polka,” right after the “F\*\*k You, I Got Mine” rag and the “Do As I Say, Not As I Do” tango.

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**Post date:** [March 31, 2022, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1749 "2022-03-31T01:11:00Z")

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> [@F.U.Shakespeare](#):
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> Gee, Clarence is lucky that wasn’t how _Loving v. Virginia_ was handled.

He lacks empathy and imagination. I am shocked.

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**Post date:** [March 31, 2022, 11:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1750 "2022-03-31T11:52:05Z")

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> [@Sunny\_Daze](#):
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> He lacks empathy and imagination. I am shocked.

He’s lost that _Loving_ feeling?

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**Post date:** [March 31, 2022, 12:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1751 "2022-03-31T12:12:55Z")

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> [@Love\_Rhombus](#):
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> > [@Sunny\_Daze](#):
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> > He lacks empathy and imagination. I am shocked.
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> He’s lost that _Loving_ feeling? -

Ginny is still around.

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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2023, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1752 "2023-09-14T15:44:36Z")

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Here ya go…

> **[Kim Davis must pay $100,000 to US same-sex couple she denied marriage license](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/sep/14/kim-davis-damages-same-sex-marriage-license-kentucky)**
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> Jury awards damages to David Ermold and David Moore, who sued former Kentucky county clerk over 2015 incident

(Note: She has lost a couple cases that she has qualified immunity…she seems to be on the hook for this.)

That said, I am willing to bet she will set up a GoFundMe page and make more than $100,000 off of this (just a guess).

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2023, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1753 "2023-09-14T15:54:39Z")

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Depends on how those people feel about paying money to be handed over to a gay couple.

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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2023, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1754 "2023-09-14T16:01:41Z")

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Well…they are not giving money to gay people. They are giving money to a person who is opposed to gay people that is being forced to give money to gay people. See the difference? 😉

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**Post date:** [September 18, 2023, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1755 "2023-09-18T20:29:11Z")

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> [@Whack-a-Mole](#):
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> They are giving money to a person who is opposed to gay people that is being forced to give money to gay people.

Close…They are giving money to an upstanding Christian woman who is being persecuted by the woke establishment, just for following Jesus’ commandment to hate the gays.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2023, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1756 "2023-09-18T22:22:22Z")

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I guess this is a civil trial, and not a criminal one. So she could make money here. Don’t tell her husband, she could come out on top.

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**Post date:** [September 18, 2023, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1757 "2023-09-18T23:40:50Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> Don’t tell her husband …

Which one? Paragon of Christian virtue that she is, I’ve lost count of how many divorces she’s gone through or which husband she’s on.

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**Post date:** [September 19, 2023, 11:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1758 "2023-09-19T11:31:02Z")

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This is probably upthread but if so, deserves another airing.

[![](https://64.media.tumblr.com/b0d1fe217e7eda78a763d967f7e257a7/tumblr_nu4n7x4Oj01qapkmyo1_500.png) ](https://64.media.tumblr.com/b0d1fe217e7eda78a763d967f7e257a7/tumblr_nu4n7x4Oj01qapkmyo1_500.png)

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**Post date:** [September 19, 2023, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1759 "2023-09-19T13:17:27Z")

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Sorry, can’t agree. There is so much bigotry endorsed in both testaments of the Bible, True Christians don’t get a pass.

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**Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-rowan-county-ky-clerk-kim-davis/727757/1760 "2024-01-02T21:00:14Z")

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And back in the news once again…

[Ex-Kentucky clerk who denied marriage licenses to gay couples faces $360,000 payment](https://www.lex18.com/news/covering-kentucky/ex-kentucky-clerk-who-denied-marriage-licenses-to-gay-couples-faces-360-000-payment)

So in addition to the 100,000 she was ordered to pay to the couple,

> U.S. District Judge David L. Bunning of the Eastern District of Kentucky ruled that Davis must pay $260.084.70 in fees and expenses to attorneys who represented a same-sex couple

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