# Fuck you, San Francisco

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-san-francisco/318153>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 22, 2005, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-san-francisco/318153 "2005-08-22T18:34:41Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2005, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-san-francisco/318153/21 "2005-08-22T20:07:42Z")

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Aw crap. You’re right.

((bangs head))

Well um, I could see…isn’t there a Garlic Brothers restaurant in Stockton? I’m probably wrong about this as well.

Screw it :wally .

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**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2005, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-san-francisco/318153/22 "2005-08-22T20:08:32Z")

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> [@askeptic](#):
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> Isn’t that in San Jose?

Yeah, but nobody knows the way there.

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**Author:** ![askeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@askeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/askeptic)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2005, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-san-francisco/318153/23 "2005-08-22T20:11:14Z")

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> [@DiosaBellissima](#):
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> …isn’t there a Garlic Brothers restaurant in Stockton? I’m probably wrong about this as well.
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> .

I think thats in Gilroy.

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**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2005, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-san-francisco/318153/24 "2005-08-22T20:22:44Z")

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Na this is one thing (woo!) I was correct about: [Haha!](http://www.google.com/local?hl=en&lr=&q=garlic+brothers+restaurant&near=Stockton,+CA&sa=X&oi=locald&radius=0.0&latlng=37957778,-121289722,15236921766863817920)

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**Author:** ![askeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@askeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/askeptic)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2005, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-san-francisco/318153/25 "2005-08-22T20:24:33Z")

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> [@DiosaBellissima](#):
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> Na this is one thing (woo!) I was correct about: [Haha!](http://www.google.com/local?hl=en&lr=&q=garlic+brothers+restaurant&near=Stockton,+CA&sa=X&oi=locald&radius=0.0&latlng=37957778,-121289722,15236921766863817920)

Sorry they closed last year, call the number in your link.

Just kidding. 😉

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**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2005, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-san-francisco/318153/26 "2005-08-22T20:30:31Z")

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. . .

. . .  
. . . You are a horrible person 😉

😃

And we end the hijack!

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**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2005, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-san-francisco/318153/27 "2005-08-22T20:32:01Z")

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> [@Dead Badger](#):
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> Wherein **Mr. Moto** raises a strawman, assumes facts not in evidence (that the board members are all liberals) and broadens a brush from 11 people to an entire city, thus putting the lie to the assertion that **Mr. Moto** can think for shit. Or at least that he can be bothered to when there’s “lib’ruls” to be bashed.

Hey, technically it’s true. That’s all that counts, right? If someone was idiotic enough to assert that every single liberal person in the world respected the military, this example would certainly prove them wrong.

I for one think it’s very helpful of **Mr. Moto** to pre-emptively dispel such a foolish claim. Plus, it puts the lie to the assertion that all conservatives really suck at pre-emptive action.

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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2005, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-san-francisco/318153/28 "2005-08-22T20:35:39Z")

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This reminds me. When Feinstein was mayor of San Francisco in the 80s, she was instrumental in turning Fleet Week into a really big deal. However, the “gay community” (so the term goes) wasn’t sold on the idea, so she had a town hall sort of meeting to try to get people onboard.

The story goes that she got up on stage, talked about how it was important for San Franciscans to buy into the week of events on behalf of the Navy, and told the mostly gay audience, “Now, I understand that many of you have differences with the military. But when these sailors come to town, I would really like it if you could welcome them with open arms.”

Some wiseacre stood up and said, “Oh, Madam Mayor, we will! We will!” Laughter insued.

(Feinstein, not having that good of a sense of humor, apparently stood there with a straight face, not getting the joke.)

Anyway, I think the SF city council made a really boneheaded move. Speaking purely in terms of politics and perception, the opening of the USS Iowa museum could have been a great platform for Newsom et al to talk about being for the troops but against the war, as an increasing number of Americans are. But nope, they rejected a floating tribute to the importance of the Navy to San Francisco and the Bay Area. Dumb, dumb, dumb. Shame on them.

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**Author:** ![Ponder\_Stibbons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponder_stibbons/32/343_2.png) [@Ponder\_Stibbons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponder_Stibbons)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2005, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-san-francisco/318153/29 "2005-08-22T20:50:10Z")

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Hijack …

Am I the only one hearing Tony Bennett singing the title of this thread in his head?

Just me, then?

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**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2005, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-san-francisco/318153/30 "2005-08-22T21:05:22Z")

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> [@Diane Feinstein](#):
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> This isn’t the San Francisco that I’ve known and loved and grew up in and was born in

The one she bankrupt?

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**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2005, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-san-francisco/318153/31 "2005-08-22T21:06:17Z")

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> [@Ponder Stibbons](#):
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> Hijack …
> 
> Am I the only one hearing Tony Bennett singing the title of this thread in his head?
> 
> Just me, then?

Yeah, but evidently _I’m_ the only one who thinks all this talk about the Navy “pulling out of San Francisco” is absolutely hilarious.

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**Author:** ![furt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/439d5e/32.png) [@furt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furt)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2005, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-san-francisco/318153/32 "2005-08-22T21:10:41Z")

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While agreeing that the OP goes a little overboard (heh), you are missing his caveats:

> [@Mr. Moto](#):
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> They voted 8-3 to reject the ship, thus putting the lie to the assertion that **all** liberals respect military service. \*\* Not all do\*\*, and San Francisco apparantly is full of that worthless crowd that does not.

Although saying that \*\*some \*\*liberals don’t respect military service is no more a bombshell than saying **some** conservatives fetishize it.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2005, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-san-francisco/318153/33 "2005-08-22T21:22:26Z")

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So five liberals were able to fill up San Francisco?

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**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2005, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-san-francisco/318153/34 "2005-08-22T22:57:47Z")

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The Iowa.

Damn.

Just…

Man, it’s not possible dollars. The Intrepid pulls in a fair haul in NY. And the Iowa?

That was just stupid. And wrong.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2005, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-san-francisco/318153/35 "2005-08-22T23:23:21Z")

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> [@askeptic](#):
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> Maybe this [one](http://www.hnsa.org/ships/pampanito.htm).

Or [this one,](http://www.ssjeremiahobrien.org/may_cru_article.htm) which is docked just aft of the sub.

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**Author:** ![Ghanima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Ghanima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ghanima)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2005, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-san-francisco/318153/36 "2005-08-22T23:31:27Z")

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Hey asshole. You realize you’re judging an entire city based on the actions of 8 people, right?

Just checking.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2005, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-san-francisco/318153/37 "2005-08-22T23:49:46Z")

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> [@Ravenman](#):
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> Some wiseacre stood up and said, “Oh, Madam Mayor, we will! We will!” Laughter insued.

Are you sure that _laughter_ was the only thing that ensued?

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2005, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-san-francisco/318153/38 "2005-08-22T23:53:27Z")

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> [@Ghanima](#):
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> Hey asshole. You realize you’re judging an entire city based on the actions of 8 people, right?
> 
> Just checking.

Which just goes to show that D.C. is just full of cockbiters.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2005, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-san-francisco/318153/39 "2005-08-22T23:58:39Z")

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Wait a minute -

it’s long and hard and full of seamen, but San Francisco _doesn’t_ want it?

There’s a first.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![stockton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5a626/32.png) [@stockton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stockton)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2005, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-san-francisco/318153/40 "2005-08-23T00:32:44Z")

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> [@DiosaBellissima](#):
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> San Diego is way cooler than Stockton.

Hey!.. wha?

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