Fuck you, Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-AL)

Who the fuck was being forced not to say anything? For all the commitee cares, you could swear to anything or anyone, living or dead.

Well, actually, you probably couldn’t. I’d bet you $50 that if someone had said “So help me god” at the end, not a word would have been said. If someone, however, had said “By the all powerfull hellbeasts of my lord and master Lucifer, I do swear,” he’d have been considered out of order, unless he was there to testify on behalf of some satanists rights group.

THAT is rights being trampled. Someone not adding “So help me god” is NOT trampling a right, or even coming close.

Tars, you’re awfully angry for someone who is making no sense.

NO ONE has been FORBIDDEN to add on whatever oath they choose. Your rights are not in jeopardy. (You seem to want to violate the Word of God, but we are not preventing you.) The only thing that has happened is that someone who prepares the little swearing-in speech left it off the card the panel chairman reads from. (For that matter, it is possible that “so help me God” was never part of the text and Sessions is simply grandstanding, pretending it was removed.)

How do you feel that your rights have been trampled?

BTW,

You may not be, but your buddy Sessions is. He wants to go to the Senate and have a law (or at least a Senate rule) passed to enforce the phrase. That is a violation of the constitution.

Well, first of all, the only Republicans i’d be buddies with is McCain and that guy from die hard 2.

Second, I am against forcing people to say “so help me God” as well as against forcing people not to say “so help me God.” So I’d be against Mr. Sessions.

There is my opinion, so help me God, Black and White, attack it if you want. (i know some of you are itching to do so.)

I’d be surprised if anyone attacked you, now that you’ve explained yourself. I agree with your stance, but I had no idea that this is what you felt up until just now.

That’s probably why i don’t post much, sometimes i can’t understand what i post.

And Fred Thompson is that other guy…

“Evening, Chester.”
“Evening, Your Honor. Gonna burn the midnight oil, I see.”
“Uh… yep. Yeah, I have a few cases I want to take another look at before tomorrow.”
“Sounds good, Your Honor. Say, Elvis 'n me are gonna order up some Chinese food later. Ya wanna go in on it with us?”
“Uh… no, no thanks, Chester. Actually, I’m, um, kind of in a hurry, so if you could just let me sign in and come on in.”
“Oh, sure, Your Honor. Just let me do the standard security stuff.”
“Oh, come on, Chester. I’m in a bit of a hurry, here.”
“I really can’t…”
“Aw, jeez, Chester! I’m a judge, remember? Why would I carry a gun into the chambers?”
“Well, I reckon you’re right, Your Honor, maybe I could… um, Your Honor?”
“What?”
“Are you hiding something under that robe?”
“What? Of course not!”
“It just seems a bit bigger and maybe bulkier than usual.”
“Are you saying I’ve gotten fat?”
“Oh, jeez, no, Your Honor, I mean, jeez, no.”
“Just let me in, Chester.”
“I really need to do the security stuff, Your Honor.”
“Chester…”
“Okay, okay. Just walk through the metal detector, and that’ll be it.”
“Aw, come on.”
“I’m sorry, Your Honor, but there’s no other way in. You want in, you have to go through the metal detector.”
“Cripes. Oh, well.”
BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP
“Jeezum Crow! Never heard it go off that loud before!”
“Well, it must be a malfunction, Chester. I’ll just go on ahead and let you take care of it.”
“Now, Your Honor, you know I’ll get in trouble if I don’t run you through again as a test.”
“Dammit, Chester…”
“I’m sorry, sir, but I haveta. Now just back up a few steps and try it again.”
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“Um, Your Honor?”
What, Chester?”
“Everytime you back up, you make that beeping noise.”
“It’s a medical condition.”
“Your Honor? Do you have a forklift under that robe?”
“What? How dare you suggest…”
“Dammit, you do! That’s what that shape is under your robes!”
“Aw, crap.”
“What are you trying to do, here?”
“Nothing.”
“Spit it out.”
“Nothing!”
“Well, then, you won’t mind taking those robes off, will ya?”
“Aw, hell.”

“That statue? Again? Your Honor, I thought you’d’ve learned by now.”
“Aw, c’mon, Chester!”
“Now you just leave that statue and that forklift out here in the lobby. You are not taking that into the rotunda.”
“It’ll only be for a minute.”
“I’m sorry, Your Honor, but I just can’t allow it.”
“Please, Chester? I promised the wife.”
“No, sir.”
“Aw, c’mon.”
“Aw, hell. Go talk to Jim Bob down at the office. If he says it’s okay, it’s okay.”
“Thanks, Chester, you’re a real pal!”

Classic, John. FWIW, I have a friend who clerked for one of the other judges at the Alabama SC. So I have it on very good authority that Chief Justice Moore is even more stupid than anyone here suspects. Oh, and his innauguration party was apparently a fashion disaster.

[sarcasm]I must have missed that memo . . . [/sarcasm]

Don’t speak for everyone here, Tars. I’m Catholic, and I wouldn’t say it.

Assuming Tars is a Christian, I am still waiting for the response to James 5:12…

I also like the way they’ve added it to the Presidential oath even though the Constitution doesn’t give it in the example, and forbids a religious test for office. Always gotta trample on the heathens, I guess…

Ah, yes, we have a case of Christians attempting to force all others into bowing down before their god by legislative fiat, so naturally in the course of the discussion someone must claim that this is a case of non-Christians trampling on the rights of Christians.

WAR IS PEACE. IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH. FREEDOM IS SLAVERY.

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Ehehehe…

You know what really pisses me off about the situation is not that Sessions objects to “God” being taken out of the oath. What bugs me is that Congress has really important issues facing us and they spend most of their time motoring at the mouth about shit like this.

As far as the oath goes, if someone truly believes in God, they are commanded not to lie by the big guy Himself through the 10 Commandments. “Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor.” Note that it doesn’t say, “Though shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor while sworn unto Me.” An oath to God just adds a bit of drama to it. But a true Christian doesn’t need the oath because God has already mandated us to do so.

And, of course, invoking God’s name will not compel a non-believer to tell the truth for obvious reasons.

So, really, it’s a non-issue. Now can Congress get back to really important issues, please? Like determining how often Chandra Levy gave Gary Condit road skull?

I have actually met Sessions. I was at a YMCA conference in DC and he hosted a ceremony of senators from participant’s states.

Whenever he spoke I swear that he invoked “God” and “young people” in every other sentence. But not in conjunction.