# Fuck you Starbucks. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 25, 2001, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-starbucks/83789 "2001-09-25T21:34:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Gozu\_Tashoya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/7993a0/32.png) [@Gozu\_Tashoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gozu_Tashoya)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2001, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-starbucks/83789/1 "2001-09-25T21:34:39Z")
Fuck you and the expensive li’l high horse you rode in on. Fuck you, most of all, for [charging rescue crews for the victims’ water](http://seattlep-i.nwsource.com/jamieson/40164_robert25.shtml) on September 11. Fuck you for drilling basic humanity out of your employees, and fuck you for being assholes about the whole goddamn incident. Make amends, you soulless bastards, and make them count. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/74df32/32.png) [@The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Devil_s_Grandmother)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2001, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-starbucks/83789/2 "2001-09-25T22:13:47Z")
There’s lots of reasons to hate Starbucks, some of them are in another thread (search for “Starbucks for the Brain-cell Impaired, Lesson One (a bit long)”). In the final paragraph the writer notes that Starbucks did reimburse the ambulance company for the +/-$130 worth of water. Pretty miserable apology and public interaction. ---
**Author:** ![Ayesha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c0e974/32.png) [@Ayesha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ayesha)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2001, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-starbucks/83789/3 "2001-09-25T22:29:12Z")
You can guess where I \*\* won’t \*\* be buying coffee from. ---
**Author:** ![caircair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/91b2a8/32.png) [@caircair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/caircair)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2001, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-starbucks/83789/4 "2001-09-25T22:35:34Z")
Ayesha, I wouldn’t touch the stuff with a 90-foot pole. And I live in Seattle! Incidentally, if you MUST go for the gourmet coffee stuff, Seattle’s Best Coffee is much much better. Not burned, but roasted to perfection. BOYCOTT STARBUCKS – before they take over the world! ---
**Author:** ![BoBettie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4af34b/32.png) [@BoBettie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BoBettie)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2001, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-starbucks/83789/5 "2001-09-25T23:03:45Z")
I will never give those bastards another penny, although I’ll continue to sit in their little cafe and do my homework. Fuck you, Starbucks. Zette ---
**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2001, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-starbucks/83789/6 "2001-09-26T01:06:14Z")
Oh, **GREAT**. I jones their Frappuccino’s on a regular basis and now THIS??? what the FUCK, I have to learn to settle for Dunkin’ Freakin’ Donuts Coollatas?? MON DIEU !!! IDIOTS !!! ---
**Author:** ![China\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/779978/32.png) [@China\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/China_Guy)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2001, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-starbucks/83789/7 "2001-09-26T01:09:45Z")
There are so many great espresso joints that actually have good food and tasty coffee instead, why bother going to Starbucks. It ain’t like boycotting Starbucks means serious personal sacrifice, vote with your feet and keep that local neighborhood mom-and-pop store that’s been around forever in business. ---
**Author:** ![Arjuna34](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Arjuna34](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arjuna34)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2001, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-starbucks/83789/8 "2001-09-26T01:21:43Z")
Here’s a much different take on the story: [http://biz.yahoo.com/apf/010925/attacks\_starbucks\_2.html](http://biz.yahoo.com/apf/010925/attacks_starbucks_2.html) Arjuna34 ---
**Author:** ![LifeOnWry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/96bed5/32.png) [@LifeOnWry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LifeOnWry)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2001, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-starbucks/83789/9 "2001-09-26T01:26:34Z")
With all due respect, **Arjuna34** , that’s not that different a take on the story. It pretty much confirms the facts of the incident. A little less enraged, but the same story. ---
**Author:** ![Ace309](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ace309/32/1050_2.png) [@Ace309](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ace309)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2001, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-starbucks/83789/10 "2001-09-26T01:39:13Z")
Well, guess who’s drinking in the espresso bar in Park Hall instead of Starbucks, effective immediately… ---
**Author:** ![Arjuna34](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Arjuna34](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arjuna34)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2001, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-starbucks/83789/11 "2001-09-26T01:41:58Z")
Umm, it seemed like a completely different slant to me. Quotes from ambulance rep in first story: > [@](#): > > … was told in a rather rude way that this could not have happened and abruptly thanked for my call and dismissed. > … > I am completely and utterly disappointed in you and your company and would sooner have open heart surgery without anesthesia before I would give you another red cent of my hard-earned money. Quotes from ambulance rep in second story: > [@](#): > > It was a misunderstanding with Starbucks. > … > It’s not a big deal anymore. The first story failed to mention the “conciliatory gestures” the yahoo story mentioned: > [@](#): > > Rapisarda said he was happy with Starbucks’ conciliatory gestures, which Smith said included free coffee and other gifts. Instead, the first story sarcastically implied that Starbucks wasn’t doing enough: > [@](#): > > But the coffee company has made amends, swallowing its pride and doing something to make up for the case of customer disservice: It reimbursed the ambulance company in Brooklyn. The first story also implies that Starbucks didn’t donate water to the rescue works at all: > [@](#): > > Still, the store’s unwillingness to donate water – when many other people in New York and elsewhere freely gave supplies and labor – came at the very same time when its corporate parent was all too willing to do something else: pat itself publicly on the back. However, the second story has this quote: > [@](#): > > the company said several stores near the World Trade Center and New York City hospitals served coffee – and water – to rescue workers for free. > > He said the company also has donated coffee and other services throughout New York City since the attacks. To me, the first story is very anti-Starbucks, while the yahoo story is very pro-Starbucks. Am I the only one that sees this?? Perhaps it’s just part of their [Phase Two](http://www.theonion.com/onion3709/starbucks_phase_two.html)?? Note- I am neutral about Starbucks in general, but hate the taste of their coffee (which I only drink when it’s free in hotel room packets). Arjuna34 ---
**Author:** ![waterj2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/858c86/32.png) [@waterj2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/waterj2)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2001, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-starbucks/83789/12 "2001-09-26T03:19:10Z")
I just can’t see paying that much for coffee. While I tend to believe Yahoo’s account was the more objective one, I don’t plan on going to Starbucks anytime soon. I’ll just stick to Dunkin Donuts. ---
**Author:** ![LifeOnWry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/96bed5/32.png) [@LifeOnWry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LifeOnWry)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2001, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-starbucks/83789/13 "2001-09-26T03:36:21Z")
No, **Arjuna** , I wasn’t really arguing about the stories. I just noted that, if one were to read around the enraged writer of the first story, one would see that the facts are pretty much the same: Starbucks charged people for water, received a call of complaint from an ambulance driver, who was at first treated rudely, who then sent a letter, at which point Someone In Charge got involved and cleaned up the mess to everyone’s satisfaction. The writer of the first story took the facts and wrote an anti-Starbucks rant, basically. The writer of the second story took the same facts and wrote them more calmly. \ Oh. I DID goof. You said “a different take”, and I thought you meant “different facts” not “different slant on same facts”. Sorry! :o ---
**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2001, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-starbucks/83789/14 "2001-09-26T03:59:12Z")
Hmmm… Can anyone say, “Commence Operation Grande Latte”? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![jmonster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/dbc845/32.png) [@jmonster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jmonster)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2001, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-starbucks/83789/15 "2001-09-26T04:35:29Z")
I think this was just a fuck up on the part of an employee or manager, not the whole chain. ---
**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2001, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-starbucks/83789/16 "2001-09-26T04:46:48Z")
Oh, yeah, I’d like to point out that NPR interviewed a rescue worker who talked about an Arab-American owned deli which stayed open around the clock, fed the rescuers for free and even let them use part of the deli for a triage area! He also mentioned how a hardware supply place (like Home Depot or Lowe’s, don’t remember which) gave the rescuers _free_ supplies. All of this immediately after the disaster. The cock maggot at Starbucks who charged the resue workers should not only be immediately fired, but **he** (and yes, it _has_ to be a “he” because no woman could be so stupid or so cruel as to do this) should be shot, so as to set an example to the rest of the fuckwads out there who think company policy comes before aiding someone in distress. ---
**Author:** ![theendisnear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a4c791/32.png) [@theendisnear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/theendisnear)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2001, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-starbucks/83789/17 "2001-09-26T05:05:58Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Tuckerfan \* > \*\*(and yes, it _has_ to be a “he” because no woman could be so stupid or so cruel as to do this) \*\* Thats one of the stupidest things i’ve heard in quite a while. ---
**Author:** ![OneChance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/74df32/32.png) [@OneChance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneChance)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2001, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-starbucks/83789/18 "2001-09-26T05:36:39Z")
That sucks. Well, I don’t drink Starbucks coffee anyway, not since I got a violent tummy ache after drinking an iced mocha there about a year ago. Seriously. I think they left the milk out too long, but it wasn’t fun. ---
**Author:** ![OneChance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/74df32/32.png) [@OneChance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneChance)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2001, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-starbucks/83789/19 "2001-09-26T05:41:46Z")
> [@](#): > > _Originally posted by Arjuna34_ > **Here’s a much different take on the story: > [http://biz.yahoo.com/apf/010925/attacks\_starbucks\_2.html](http://biz.yahoo.com/apf/010925/attacks_starbucks_2.html)** This part of the article tells it all: “…he received a hand-delivered reimbursement check … after reports of the incident became public.” Typical of many large companies. They only do the right thing after the situation has been made public. If anyone cares, Nordstrom and Tully’s have excellent coffee. And if you’re ever in Pioneer Square in Seattle, Zeitgeist has great coffee, too. ---
**Author:** ![THespos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8c91f0/32.png) [@THespos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/THespos)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2001, 11:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-starbucks/83789/20 "2001-09-26T11:02:58Z")
Yet another perfectly useless Starbucks opened in my neighborhood, taking over a space previously occupied by a perfectly useful Carvel ice cream shop. Seems to be part of Starbucks’ corporate mantra that everybody in America needs to be WITHIN 10 FUCKING FEET of a Starbucks. I’m already boycotting them. $130 for three cases of water? Assuming 24 bottles in a case, that’s $1.80 a bottle. So, not only did Starbucks look like a tremendous fucknugget for charging at all, but they look even more fucknuggetish for GOUGING THE RESCUE WORKERS. And people ask me why I have two Brita pitchers in the fridge… [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-starbucks/83789.md?page=2)