# Fuck you, Texas Republicans

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-texas-republicans/661942>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 26, 2013, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-texas-republicans/661942 "2013-06-26T06:21:56Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2013, 11:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-texas-republicans/661942/21 "2013-06-26T11:22:51Z")

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> [@Captain\_Amazing](#):
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> I don’t really have strong feelings one way or another about the bill, but isn’t it sort of a bad sign for the democratic process and the rule of law and all when the legislature can’t vote on a bill because of an angry mob? You might like the result in this case, but isn’t the process troubling?

Don’t worry, I’m sure the Republicans will find a way to prevent filibustering (not an angry mob - filibustering by a single senator) once their effort to falsify the timestamp fails. Er, assuming it fails, that is.

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2013, 11:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-texas-republicans/661942/22 "2013-06-26T11:26:23Z")

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Why did the bill have to pass before midnight?

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**Author:** ![stpauler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@stpauler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stpauler)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2013, 11:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-texas-republicans/661942/23 "2013-06-26T11:37:14Z")

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> [@Saint\_Cad](#):
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> Why did the bill have to pass before midnight?

Because the unborn fetus would turn back into a pumpkin OR it’s the end of the special legislative session.

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**Author:** ![Ambrosio\_Spinola](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9de0a6/32.png) [@Ambrosio\_Spinola](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambrosio_Spinola)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2013, 11:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-texas-republicans/661942/24 "2013-06-26T11:45:45Z")

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> [@Saint\_Cad](#):
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> Why did the bill have to pass before midnight?

The Texas Legislature was in a special session that only lasted for 30 days. If the Governor wants to, he can call as many more as he wants, so this is probably a temporary reprieve. The bill would have banned all abortions after 20 weeks and also imposed a variety of restrictions that would have forced all but 5 abortion clinics in the state to close (some of the restrictions required physicians to dispense any abortion drugs in person at an ambulatory surgical center, for instance.)

I hope Sen. Davis is sleeping in very late this morning, she deserves it.

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**Author:** ![WolfpackJeep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpackjeep/32/2921_2.png) [@WolfpackJeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WolfpackJeep)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2013, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-texas-republicans/661942/25 "2013-06-26T12:26:05Z")

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I find the Republican tactics in this case far more troubling than the presence of an “angry mob”. The Republicans were acting way out of line, and the people called them on their bullshit.

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**Author:** ![The\_Hamster\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@The\_Hamster\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Hamster_King)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2013, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-texas-republicans/661942/26 "2013-06-26T12:59:27Z")

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> [@Captain\_Amazing](#):
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> I don’t really have strong feelings one way or another about the bill, but isn’t it sort of a bad sign for the democratic process and the rule of law and all when the legislature can’t vote on a bill because of an angry mob? You might like the result in this case, but isn’t the process troubling?

The angry mob stepped in when the Republicans tried to stop the filibuster on trumped-up technicalities.

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**Author:** ![MostlyClueless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@MostlyClueless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MostlyClueless)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2013, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-texas-republicans/661942/27 "2013-06-26T13:39:07Z")

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Had to share this image: [http://instagram.com/p/bBWsRbi9kz/#](http://instagram.com/p/bBWsRbi9kz/#)

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**Author:** ![Gedd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gedd/32/4938_2.png) [@Gedd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gedd)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2013, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-texas-republicans/661942/28 "2013-06-26T13:40:37Z")

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Did anyone else find it ironic that after the third violation Senator Duncan was so confused by how the Senate works he needed a woman whispering in his ear to figure out what was supposed to be going on? [On a side note, who was that person, the Clerk? Secretary? Anyone know? Seriously, my wife was yelling at the live feed, “No! Someone call an inquiry! Watson has the floor you idiot!” She basically made all of Ellis’s argument before he did. Maybe my wife should go into politics if she gets bored of teaching Kindergarten; she understood what was going on better than Duncan did though.

It’s too bad that Democracy is so new to the state of Texas that there are no rules for how these things work. Imagine bringing up _Rowe v Wade_ in a discussion on abortion!

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2013, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-texas-republicans/661942/29 "2013-06-26T13:50:50Z")

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How come I never heard about this stuff until this morning but everyone else on the SDMB and my Facebook did?

> [@Captain\_Amazing](#):
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> I don’t really have strong feelings one way or another about the bill, but isn’t it sort of a bad sign for the democratic process and the rule of law and all when the legislature can’t vote on a bill because of an angry mob? You might like the result in this case, but isn’t the process troubling?

They couldn’t vote on the bill because of a filibuster, not because of an angry mob.

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**Author:** ![Sam\_Lowry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Sam\_Lowry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Lowry)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2013, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-texas-republicans/661942/30 "2013-06-26T14:06:05Z")

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> [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](#):
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> Thank you both for being there and being heard. Sincerely. It makes me smile that at least two of you from this very board were there for those of us watching on youtube and watching the news.

I agree, thank you.

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**Author:** ![Furious\_Marmot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/dfb087/32.png) [@Furious\_Marmot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Furious_Marmot)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2013, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-texas-republicans/661942/31 "2013-06-26T14:10:40Z")

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Isn’t the whole thing kind of irrelevant? Eventually, either in another special session or in the regular session, somebody will pass out from dehydration, or accidentally lean on a desk, or violate some other silly rule and the bill will pass. It’s not like anybody’s going to change their vote. At most, the bill has been delayed by a few months. Bizarre debating stunts are no substitute for voting legislators out of a job.

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2013, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-texas-republicans/661942/32 "2013-06-26T14:18:57Z")

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> [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](#):
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> Thank you both for being there and being heard. Sincerely. It makes me smile that at least two of you from this very board were there for those of us watching on youtube and watching the news.
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> Point of order for getting help putting on a back brace. Unfuckingbelievable. Just when I think these pieces of filth can’t sink any lower they surprise me with more. It’s like their reserves of bullshit are unlimited.

Another word of thanks for your involvement. In order for Republicans to flourish, all that is required is for good people to do nothing.

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**Author:** ![Gedd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gedd/32/4938_2.png) [@Gedd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gedd)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2013, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-texas-republicans/661942/33 "2013-06-26T14:19:17Z")

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> [@Furious\_Marmot](#):
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> Isn’t the whole thing kind of irrelevant? Eventually, either in another special session or in the regular session, somebody will pass out from dehydration, or accidentally lean on a desk, or violate some other silly rule and the bill will pass. It’s not like anybody’s going to change their vote. At most, the bill has been delayed by a few months. Bizarre debating stunts are no substitute for voting legislators out of a job.

Hopefully, they can delay them long enough for the people in Texas to vote them out.

ETA:  
Or for them to be called back to their home planet(s)

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**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2013, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-texas-republicans/661942/34 "2013-06-26T14:19:59Z")

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You guys have this discussion nailed down pretty well, so I’m just going to pop in real quick to add: fuck those stupid fucks!

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**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2013, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-texas-republicans/661942/35 "2013-06-26T14:27:52Z")

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With DOMA deemed unconstitutional conservatives had to limit _someones_ rights, it just didn’t feel the same.

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2013, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-texas-republicans/661942/36 "2013-06-26T14:31:12Z")

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> [@Gedd](#):
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> Hopefully, they can delay them long enough for the people in Texas to vote them out.

Good luck with that.

The Republicans have gerrymandered the state and pulled it over its head.

Look at fucking Austin. It’s divided into 4 districts, one of which goes all the friggin’ way down to Mexico and another that extends all the way to Houston.

Give it 10 or 15 years and maybe. In the meantime, we’re trying to fight the good fight down here to make it happen.

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**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2013, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-texas-republicans/661942/37 "2013-06-26T14:34:50Z")

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Do we dare to dream the sands are shifting in Texas?

They seem to have accepted defeat somewhat graciously, y’know, for Texas Republicans. Makes me think that maybe they can smell change in the air, and are content to go down in flames, so long as it appears like they fought the good fight.

Dare to dream!

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2013, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-texas-republicans/661942/38 "2013-06-26T14:39:19Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> How come I never heard about this stuff until this morning but everyone else on the SDMB and my Facebook did?

Reddit, tumblr and twitter.  
Major props to Davis and a big ole wtf to changing time stamps. Don’t fuck around with data like that; it sets a bad precedent. God.

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**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2013, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-texas-republicans/661942/39 "2013-06-26T14:39:54Z")

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> [@Gedd](#):
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> Did anyone else find it ironic that after the third violation Senator Duncan was so confused by how the Senate works he needed a woman whispering in his ear to figure out what was supposed to be going on? [On a side note, who was that person, the Clerk? Secretary? Anyone know? Seriously, my wife was yelling at the live feed, “No! Someone call an inquiry! Watson has the floor you idiot!” She basically made all of Ellis’s argument before he did. Maybe my wife should go into politics if she gets bored of teaching Kindergarten; she understood what was going on better than Duncan did though.
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> It’s too bad that Democracy is so new to the state of Texas that there are no rules for how these things work. Imagine bringing up _Rowe v Wade_ in a discussion on abortion!

Why would your wife want to associate with people who are less mature than her current clientele (not to mention less interested in learning anything)?

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**Author:** ![Sam\_Lowry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Sam\_Lowry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Lowry)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2013, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-texas-republicans/661942/40 "2013-06-26T14:42:39Z")

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> [@Furious\_Marmot](#):
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> Isn’t the whole thing kind of irrelevant? Eventually, either in another special session or in the regular session, somebody will pass out from dehydration, or accidentally lean on a desk, or violate some other silly rule and the bill will pass. It’s not like anybody’s going to change their vote. At most, the bill has been delayed by a few months. Bizarre debating stunts are no substitute for voting legislators out of a job.

It brought attention to the issue. [The majority of Texans opposed the bill](http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/06/24/2202991/poll-texans-oppose-sb-5/?mobile=nc). There are a lot of Texans who think that there are enough abortion restrictions and want their representatives to spend their time on other issues. With all the attention on the bill and the opposition to it, there might be a few in the legislature who would think twice about voting for it again.

Also, this probably waked up some more progressive voters in Texas. [There have been efforts to turn Texas to the Democratic party](http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/20/opinion/getting-texas-to-go-democratic.html?_r=0). Obviously it’s not going to be an easy or quick effort, but things like this could slowly show Texans how absurd the Republican party has been acting and how the Democratic party might representative of them.

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