Well, you’ve posted this article twice before and each time I’ve asked for an actual cite for their contention that the session doesn’t end until the vote finishes. In the Texas Senate rules there seems to be no exception to the rule that a special session lasts no more than 30 days.
Wonder what the numbers look like if you exclude women who are post-menopausal. 
Remarkable how much special pleading they do when it’s themselves or a family member involved, innit?
It’s a statistically significant gap reflected by the politics of the male majority…
Any word on that question of germaneness?
I think the point is that if being pro-life makes you misogynistic how can 46% of women consider themselves pro-life?
I guess that’s the point, but what does that prove?
Is the point that women can’t have misogynistic tendencies? There’s a not-very-well-hidden assumption there.
It relates to the question of who should have a say so in regulating a woman’s body. If it’s just women , it’s pretty obvious which sentiment carries the day.
Since the legislature is mostly male, and they’re not listening to what the majority of their constituents want… It shouldn’t be too hard to connect the rest of the dots.
It shows that the argument pro-life=misogynistic is almost certainly bunk.
How?
Repeating myself, not-very-well-hidden assumption: women can’t have misogynistic tendencies as well?
My mother thinks all women with families should cook for them every day (and that men don’t belong in the kitchen). Just because you’re a women doesn’t mean you can’t also be misogynistic or sexist.
Women can certainly be susceptible to the desire to control other women’s bodies. But, like anti-abortion men whose views become more nuanced when their own daughters get knocked up, they are just as hypocritically capable of carving out exceptions for themselves without even realizing it.
Plus, there are many women in church denominations that heavily indoctrinate that view, and they’re just as prone as men to internalize it.
What’s more likely? Almost half of all women are misogynistic or that one can be pro-life without being misogynistic? And if you claim the former wouldn’t you (presumably a man) be acting misogynistic by telling half of all women that they don’t know what’s best for themselves?
A better question: if you want to prevent abortions, why use the least effective method to prevent abortions? The number of abortions didn’t go down when Roe vs. Wade came in to play: the number of hideously unsafe abortions did. Providing better education and social services to people in need would help far more in stemming the tide.
Indeed, that seems to be what the Texas legislature is intent on doing… No choice right?
Option 3: that almost half of women can hold a misogynistic opinion on one (or more) issue(s) without being complete woman-hating (hence self-hating) people.
Black/white labelling of people as misogynists or not is a false dilemma. Misogyny isn’t binary. It’s not even really a continuum. The fact that I had to spell it out in such detail is troubling.
Ah hell, this is the Pit, I guess. It’s dumb. It’s fucking dumb. And you should be ashamed at your obvious lack of ability to figure it out. I’d try harder to insult you, but it doesn’t induce rage in me. Just mild exasperation.
I (yes, a man) didn’t claim the former, but even if I did, no. I would be telling them they are free to determine for themselves (presumably in consultation with one or more medical professionals and possibly friends and family or other trusted confidantes) what is best for themselves. If that happens to be choosing not to have an abortion, fine by me. I’m not forcing them to have one.
Oh, and that’s really the stupid part here.
That the “opposite” side is actually a literal opposite. That disagreeing with these 46% of women (or whatever the number is) means forcing some decision upon them. They are personally no less free to do as they please. They aren’t currently forced to have abortions or even consider them, nor will they ever have to consider them if they don’t want them.
I’ll give you (a tiny amount) of credit that you don’t believe this, but there are certainly plenty of people in Texas who believe exactly this, among other inane things, like the abortion industry is a billion dollar one or that abortion doctors in Texas don’t properly sterilize their equipment (yes, people actually believe this shit). And that women are tricked or forced into having abortions.
So again, we’re not telling them what’s best for them. We’re telling them they themselves also have no right to make that determination for other people.
And again, it’s mind-numbingly stupid that this has to be pointed out again and again.
Women who want to prevent other women from having reproductive choice aren’t doing it out of a motive to decide what’s best for themselves.
Interesting tack you attempted there Deeg.
Curious. If someone objected to your usage of kite, coon or whop in a conversation, are you one of those guys that points your finger at them and says," You’re a racist!" ?
Pee Wee Herman must be proud…
According to some of the arguments I’ve read, if you educate people (especially teenagers!) about sex and birth control, they’ll just turn into promiscuous little degenerates. :rolleyes: Again, there’s a lot of anger directed at women here – a “good girl” shouldn’t have sexual desire, and should be “saving herself” as a gift for her husband. Therefore, she has no need whatsoever for the pill or any other form of birth control. And some of the more extreme positions hold that birth control is the same thing as abortion…