I’m not.
He’s telling somebody who’s been an unwed teenage mother that he knows the situation of unwed teenage mothers better than she does. With a straight face.
Chutzpah, thy name is Rick Perry.
Elvis summed it up for me. I have no respect whatsoever for men who are anti-abortion. They will never be able to get pregnant so they should have no power over those who can. My reproductive choices and those of my daughters are not yours to make for me or them.
During my last pregnancy the doctors and nurses literally feared I would go into convulsions and die because my blood pressure was so high. I was on multiple medications and watched carefully. I was lucky everything worked out very well but it could have easily turned out the other way, as my OB told me more than once. No one else has the right to me or my girls that we must literally put our lives in danger because the birth control failed. Fuck any man who would dare tell a woman otherwise.
Abortion should remain legal so that women are not told to risk injury or death because they had sex. The death penalty should be abolished because it does not work, costs far too much money and essentially makes sure that our state will execute innocent people.
The two have nothing in common.
People who are pro death penalty while being anti-abortion simply wish to divide the world into the innocent vrs. the guilty. As someone who has suffered two very difficult pregnancies AND been mugged and robbed on more than one occasion they can fuck off.
My wife asks me to pass on to you that she’s also anti-abortion.
Now what?
I know. I was attempting to make a funny.
Gross, dude.
If there is no other recourse then I completely agree. However I think the vote is a reasonable counter. If the bill really is that unpopular then they’ll be voted out and we’ll be the better for it.
My problem is that in the future we’re left with the remedy of always clearing out the room when the voting deadline is imminent. Wouldn’t we prefer that all the proceedings be public?
And do you miss the possibility that you’ve given future mobs some legitimacy in shouting down legislative votes? If the legislature did something illegal then I’m sure there is a way to pursue punishment.
I don’t blame the gallery for what appears to be a visceral and unplanned reaction but I guess I’d like to see some contrition.
I think you are projecting. Maybe you don’t mind shouting down a vote because it was the big bad Republicans who lost in the end? For my own part I believe that if any of the Republicans broke the law during the proceedings they should be prosecuted. I’d completely support the gallery taping the vote and using it as evidence.
That’s her personal choice.
What you don’t realize is, that you are the equivalent of a vegetarian who wants to outlaw meat for everyone else.
Couple that with the reason you’re anti-abortion in the first place, namely that you belong to an ancient cult that asserts without any evidence at all that fetuses have teh souls, and I’m not seeing you as the reasonable person in this argument.
You don’t believe anyone has a soul, I take it?
But yet you also feel that at some point in the development of a human life, the law should protect that human life from extinguishment by another human’s wilful action.
Is that true?
Why would I? There has never been any evidence presented for one? If I damage or drug a brain, the person changes their behavior. That’s pretty good evidence that consciousness is generated by the material of the brain.
But that’s neither here nor there. If your ancient cult thought that marital sex on Wednesdays was punishable by death because it constituted Soul Rape™ or some similar weirdness, it would be acceptable for you to abstain. It would not be acceptable for you to try to force others to live by your weirdo beliefs. Same thing here.
Surely. And the fact that an early stage fetus is essentially brain dead, isn’t mitigated by the fact that it has cute little toes and a heartbeat. People should be protected by law, and calling something that has no mind at all a person is a little weird.
But that’s the point, isn’t it? We disagree on this. But neither of us has to go through nine months of misery because the other says so.
Why should a woman?
Indeed Bricker. ALL life is SACRED.
Every time your wife exudes a living, unfertilized egg cell it’s MURDER!
Better get busy Bub… Texas has the express lane for murderers.
So she’s just as thoroughly indoctrinated as you are by a bunch of perverted old men in Rome who demand you both believe what they tell you to believe. That’s what.
When did you decide to stop even pretending?
You keep using this word “mob”. While it’s been described that way by some folks, the crowd was hardly a mob.
Yes, they shouted down a vote. For 15 minutes. Then they were hushed up and escorted out. They were never violent nor truly unruly.
The idea that voting people out is a reasonable alternative is pretty laughable. Did you not keep track of the gerrymandering discussion? Representation in Texas doesn’t track the actual demographics of Texas. Districts in Texas have been drawn to favor Republicans. And voters are NOT generally single issue.
Worse yet, if ‘voting’ is the answer, why allow such filibusters (ones where you actually stand and talk for hours on end) in the first place? Why not just go through with the vote and let that decide each time? Answer that, and you have a perfectly cromulent reason why occasional direct participation by citizens is a valuable part of our society and why ‘voting the bums out’ is not a good excuse.
Because that nine months of misery is going to save a human life.
I know you disagree. But we have a process for making laws in a representative democracy, almost by definition slated to handle the reality that all persons will not agree on the wisdom of any given law.
I don’t understand why you believe that for this issue, you are entitled to declare that your view must be the one to drive the law, even though for most other issues, you understand that we make law by electing representatives and allowing them to craft the law. For this issue, you seem to believe you hold a a special card, “Go directly to GO; Collect $200,” that entitles you to bypass the operation of the representative democracy.
You don’t.
But that was a rather critical 15 minutes, wasn’t it?
Would you have been as appreciative if the law already existed, and this legislative effort was trying to repeal it, but was stopped by pro-life activists shouting down the vote for the crucial fifteen minutes?
Hell, nearly every cell in your body is undoubtedly alive and contains all the information needed to make a potential human being in a healthy womb.
Spit on the sidewalk and you’ll kill more ‘people’ than Stalin.
And every time you take a shit you need to say a prayer over it.
Anti-abortionism is based on the premise that life begins at some specified moment, whose selection is so obviously correct to its believers as to be fact rather than dogma. But there is no basis other than religion for picking that moment, and different religions at different times have picked different moments at that. Others hold life to be a gradually growing thing, rather than instantaneous.
But **Bricker **is among those religious dogmatics who are so completely absorbed in belief as to be no longer able to recognize it as such.
Once. In 2013.
The answer is obviously IOKIYAR.
It may have to be a few more before we’re through.
In my view, an unfertilized egg cell is not a human life – it’s simply a cell, a product of the woman’s body. So, too, is a sperm cell. And so also a skin cell, a muscle cell, and a stem cell.