# Fuck you too, electric boogaloo!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-too-electric-boogaloo/846235>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 10, 2020, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-too-electric-boogaloo/846235 "2020-01-10T17:57:20Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2020, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-too-electric-boogaloo/846235/21 "2020-01-13T05:20:41Z")

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> [@Lumpy](#):
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> Did the elected officials actually propose any of these measure before the elections? The impression I got was “Suprise suckas, we’ve got a MANDATE now!”
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> And to everyone who responded with sarcasm, ridicule and contempt: Fuck you. Fuck you with fish hooks. Fuck you with fish hooks coated with fire ant venom.

Given that all they’re doing (as of right now), is re-proposing Northam’s ideas from last year, then yeah, they knew.

Have you tried not being a moron?

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**Author:** ![margin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/65b543/32.png) [@margin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/margin)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2020, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-too-electric-boogaloo/846235/22 "2020-01-13T15:01:48Z")

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Why do Repubs always pull this crap? “Background checks” gets turned into “THEY’RE COMIN’ TO TAKE OUR GUNNNNNNNNNNSSSS!” And then they need guns to go out in public?

No wonder they like Trump. He’s the biggest wuss ever.

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**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2020, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-too-electric-boogaloo/846235/23 "2020-01-13T15:33:59Z")

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> [@Lumpy](#):
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> And to everyone who responded with sarcasm, ridicule and contempt: Fuck you. Fuck you with fish hooks. Fuck you with fish hooks coated with fire ant venom.

3/10

Any ridicule or contempt you’ve received is well deserved.

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2020, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-too-electric-boogaloo/846235/24 "2020-01-13T16:48:45Z")

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> [@Lumpy](#):
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> Moderate? The VA state Democrats are proposing laws that amount to “you can’t own any guns the government decides it doesn’t want you to have”.

That is, broadly, how gun control works at its most basic level, yes. Have a gold star.

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2020, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-too-electric-boogaloo/846235/25 "2020-01-13T16:51:06Z")

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> [@armedmonkey](#):
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> Virginia politics are a mess. Both sides _hate_ each other, and have for decades. Just look at the [combat](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsaA903oxvc) they had 26 years ago.

So much cringe, so little time… The 80s really were something else, huh ?

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**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2020, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-too-electric-boogaloo/846235/26 "2020-01-13T20:37:34Z")

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> [@Chisquirrel](#):
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> Have you tried not being a moron?

Have you tried not re-eating the kernels of corn that come out of your ass?

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2020, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-too-electric-boogaloo/846235/27 "2020-01-13T21:07:43Z")

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> [@Kobal2](#):
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> That is, broadly, how gun control works at its most basic level, yes. Have a gold star.

In the same way that the I can’t onw a car the government doesn’t want me to have. Remember back in [1901](https://time.com/4301055/license-plate-history/) when the government came in and confiscated all the cars so no one could drive?

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**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2020, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-too-electric-boogaloo/846235/28 "2020-01-13T22:05:46Z")

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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> In the same way that the I can’t onw a car the government doesn’t want me to have. Remember back in [1901](https://time.com/4301055/license-plate-history/) when the government came in and confiscated all the cars so no one could drive?

I’m not driving, I’m travelling.

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**Author:** ![atimnie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atimnie/32/11_2.png) [@atimnie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/atimnie)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2020, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-too-electric-boogaloo/846235/29 "2020-01-13T23:10:32Z")

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_Have you tried not re-eating the kernels of corn that come out of your ass?_

Have you tried not being a total fucking asshole? Because that’s what you’re being, a total fucking asshole, and everyone knows it.

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2020, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-too-electric-boogaloo/846235/30 "2020-01-14T13:35:41Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> the gun loons

“Boogaloons” has a nice ring to it. “Boogalunatics” in formal usage.

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**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2020, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-too-electric-boogaloo/846235/31 "2020-01-14T14:38:09Z")

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**Lumpy** , before you fuck me with a fish hook, can you maybe stop and consider some other path to addressing the “deep doubts about the constitutionality” than taking up arms, issuing death threats to the legislature, radically misrepresenting what they are trying to pass as a pretext to threatening civil war and attracting out of state white nationalist militias for support? Do you really believe that is appropriate and the only recourse here?

Also, falling back on “the law is the LAW” doesn’t sound very left-field to me. What the fuck else do you expect a LEGISLATURE to do exactly, hmmm? Because guess what? If it comes to shooting, falling back on the law goes all the way to shooting back with overwhelming force, which just happens to fit perfectly with my “kill 'em all” policy toward yokel redneck rebel traitor Confederate terrorists.

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**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2020, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-too-electric-boogaloo/846235/32 "2020-01-14T15:02:09Z")

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> [@atimnie](#):
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> _Have you tried not re-eating the kernels of corn that come out of your ass?_
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> Have you tried not being a total fucking asshole? Because that’s what you’re being, a total fucking asshole, and everyone knows it.

I did not start the exchange of insults. If you don’t want to hear any opinion or reasoning contradicting the “gunz are the evilz” mantra, then have the honesty to say so up front that the opposing view is going to be rejected out of hand. Otherwise, address posts on their merits instead of _ad hominem_ denigration of people who don’t agree with you.

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**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2020, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-too-electric-boogaloo/846235/33 "2020-01-14T15:18:21Z")

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> [@Lumpy](#):
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> address posts on their merits

Once you submit a post with merits to be addressed, I’ll be sure to follow this advice.

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**Author:** ![atimnie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atimnie/32/11_2.png) [@atimnie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/atimnie)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2020, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-too-electric-boogaloo/846235/34 "2020-01-14T15:38:12Z")

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Lumpy is a hypocrite. He complains about ad hominems while engaging in ad hominems.

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2020, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-too-electric-boogaloo/846235/35 "2020-01-14T17:22:17Z")

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> [@Lumpy](#):
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> Moderate? The VA state Democrats are proposing laws that amount to “you can’t own any guns the government decides it doesn’t want you to have”. That pretty much shits on gun ownership as a fundamental right, and the Dems don’t care if the troglodytes object, they plan to cram it down the throats of the populace because what’s “right” trumps what the hoi polloi want- which pretty much shits on the idea of democracy.

Actually polls show pretty much the opposite. Its been the minority gun lobby troglodites who don’t believe in Democracy and are trying to cram guns down the throats of the populace because of what they believe is right which pretty much shits on the idea of democracy.

> **[Virginia voters back gun control measures in new poll](https://www.insidenova.com/news/politics/virginia-voters-back-gun-control-measures-in-new-poll/article_fbf705ae-20c4-11ea-bc18-73ec8b418c52.html)**
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> In contrast to large crowds calling for local Second Amendment resolutions, Virginia voters strongly support new gun control measures ahead of the new legislative session in January.

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> Voters strongly support requiring background checks on all gun sales, 86% to 13%,  
> and passing a ‘red flag’ law to remove guns from someone who may harm someone, 73% to 23%,  
> according to the poll results. A slight majority, 54% to 44%, support banning assault-style weapons.
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> Among other results:
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> ```
> Voters strongly back the Equal Rights Amendment (80%-13%).
> 
> A slight majority oppose giving localities authority to remove or alter Confederate monuments (51%-44%).
> 
> Voters strongly support decriminalizing possession of small amounts of marijuana (83%-14%).
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> Voters strongly support raising the minimum wage (72%-28%)
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> Voters strongly support automatic voter registration (64%-31%), and no-excuse absentee voting (74%-23%)
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> Voters strongly support passage of the redistricting reform constitutional amendment (70%-15%).  
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> ```

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2020, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-too-electric-boogaloo/846235/36 "2020-01-14T19:47:26Z")

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> [@Lumpy](#):
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> Moderate? The VA state Democrats are proposing laws that amount to “you can’t own any guns the government decides it doesn’t want you to have”. That pretty much shits on gun ownership as a fundamental right, and the Dems don’t care if the troglodytes object, they plan to cram it down the throats of the populace because what’s “right” trumps what the hoi polloi want- which pretty much shits on the idea of democracy.

Did these Democrats not win their elections? Did they not run on pro-gun control platforms? Are they not implementing the policies they campaigned on? What part of that is “shitting on democracy?”

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2020, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-too-electric-boogaloo/846235/37 "2020-01-14T20:10:02Z")

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I can’t fail to wonder how much of the boogalooing may be a result of the efforts of provocateurs planting in various information venues the suggestion that there can be no choice but the boogaloo, and that ANY majority rule is by definition tyranny thereof.

Meanwhile, the last barely-Republican legislature could have used the chance they had to modify Northam’s proposals to something more passable to them, and then put the onus on him to sign them, and defused the pro-gun-control side of the Democratic platform and their momentum. But noooo, it was flat-out NO, nada, not a step back, don’t give an inch, don’t even consider it. And I can almost foretell that come this legislative session they will not even consider the possibility of lending votes to a less restrictive measure, it will once again be “NOOO! No Compromise! All Or Nothing!” (and don’t get smug, Dems, I know a bunch of you are gonna be like “sucks to be ya, losers”)

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**Author:** ![Turek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/turek/32/18782_2.png) [@Turek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Turek)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2020, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-too-electric-boogaloo/846235/38 "2020-01-14T20:48:05Z")

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> [@Lumpy](#):
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> Moderate? The VA state Democrats are proposing laws that amount to “you can’t own any guns the government decides it doesn’t want you to have”. That pretty much shits on gun ownership as a fundamental right, and the Dems don’t care if the troglodytes object, they plan to cram it down the throats of the populace because what’s “right” trumps what the hoi polloi want- which pretty much shits on the idea of democracy.

> [@Miller](#):
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> Did these Democrats not win their elections? Did they not run on pro-gun control platforms? Are they not implementing the policies they campaigned on? What part of that is “shitting on democracy?”

What happened to “elections have consequences”?

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2020, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-too-electric-boogaloo/846235/39 "2020-01-14T21:15:43Z")

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> [@Kobal2](#):
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> That is, broadly, how gun control works at its most basic level, yes. Have a gold star.

That’s not only how gun control works, that’s how the law has been for a while.

The right to bear arms doesn’t equate to the right to carry around anything you want to without restrictions. It’s surprisingly lax; you can literally own a weapon that launches grenades or rockets if you register with the BATF and pay a small tax. Some states are a bit more restrictive but it will vary.

Weapons recently manufactured and fully automatic are not legal to own and use as a private citizen. Fully automatic weapons manufactured before 1986 can be legal to own if registered, but they are hard to find and very expensive. It’s also legal to buy a semiautomatic weapon that can be converted to fully automatic, though there have been efforts to make that practice illegal.

Regardless, the precedent has already been set that the federal government can and does tell you what guns you are allowed to legally possess. Griping about a new law that might violate the absolute right to gun ownership is a futile exercise since it already doesn’t exist.

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**Author:** ![Fugazi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f08c70/32.png) [@Fugazi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fugazi)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2020, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-too-electric-boogaloo/846235/40 "2020-01-14T21:24:55Z")

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> [@Turek](#):
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> What happened to “elections have consequences”?

Like the right wing answer for just about everything.. IOKWRDI.

Want to impeach an obviously crooked, corrupt, criminal president? Then your thwarting the will of the voters, and participating in an illegal coup.

Want to enact some common sense gun legislation that the majority want and in fact elected you to do? Well then time for an armed revolution.

I’m starting to wonder why anyone even bothers to point out Republican hippocracy any more. It’s like commenting on the wetness of the oceans and the blueness of the sky.

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