# Fuck you too, electric boogaloo! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 10, 2020, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-too-electric-boogaloo/846235 "2020-01-10T17:57:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2020, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-too-electric-boogaloo/846235/41 "2020-01-14T21:50:59Z")
> [@Lumpy](#): > > Have you tried not re-eating the kernels of corn that come out of your ass? > [@Lumpy](#): > > I did not start the exchange of insults. If you don’t want to hear any opinion or reasoning contradicting the “gunz are the evilz” mantra, then have the honesty to say so up front that the opposing view is going to be rejected out of hand. Otherwise, address posts on their merits instead of _ad hominem_ denigration of people who don’t agree with you. So that’s a no, then. I’ll wait while you come up with better insults, because it’s painfully obvious better arguments are beyond you, given that you clearly didn’t even note my original point, even after your “fuck you with fish hooks”. Weaponized stupidity, indeed. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2020, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-too-electric-boogaloo/846235/42 "2020-01-14T23:31:37Z")
> [@Fugazi](#): > > Republican hippocracy “Above all, do no compromise” ? ---
**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2020, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-too-electric-boogaloo/846235/43 "2020-01-15T00:01:25Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > Did these Democrats not win their elections? Did they not run on pro-gun control platforms? Are they not implementing the policies they campaigned on? What part of that is “shitting on democracy?” As far as dumbfuck redneck terrorists are concerned, the definition of “democracy” is “me and my bros can do whatever the fuck we want and we get to murder anybody who says otherwise.” ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2020, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-too-electric-boogaloo/846235/44 "2020-01-16T00:28:08Z")
Well, it’s all fun and games until M1Abrams Tanks pop your motorcycle’s headlights out. [https://www.governor.virginia.gov/newsroom/all-releases/2020/january/headline-850926-en.html](https://www.governor.virginia.gov/newsroom/all-releases/2020/january/headline-850926-en.html) ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2020, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-too-electric-boogaloo/846235/45 "2020-01-16T01:29:08Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > It’s also legal to buy a semiautomatic weapon that can be converted to fully automatic, though there have been efforts to make that practice illegal. I’m not so sure on this point The NFA defines a machine gun as “any weapon . . . designed to shoot . . . automatically.” In 1982, ATF issued a ruling explaining that “designed to shoot” refers to “those weapons which have not previously functioned as machineguns but possess design features which facilitate full automatic fire by simple modification or elimination of existing component parts.” ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2020, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-too-electric-boogaloo/846235/46 "2020-01-16T02:24:39Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > I’m not so sure on this point > > The NFA defines a machine gun as “any weapon . . . designed to shoot . . . automatically.” In 1982, ATF issued a ruling explaining that “designed to shoot” refers to “those weapons which have not previously functioned as machineguns but possess design features which facilitate full automatic fire by simple modification or elimination of existing component parts.” > **[The legal loopholes that let people get automatic guns](https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/10/4/16412910/automatic-guns-las-vegas-shooting)** > > Here’s how the Las Vegas shooter could have obtained an automatic weapon. You may have heard the “bump stock” controversy and political discussion about trying to make them illegal. They replace the normal stock on a rifle, so get around the language you quoted about a “simple modification or elimination of existing component parts”. The way it works: \*\*The device basically replaces the gun’s shoulder rest, with a “support step” that covers the trigger opening. By holding the pistol grip with one hand and pushing forward on the barrel with the other, the shooter’s finger comes in contact with the trigger. The recoil causes the gun to buck back and forth, “bumping” the trigger. Technically, that means the finger is pulling the trigger for each round fired, keeping the weapon a legal semi-automatic.\*\* It’s a sneaky loophole. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2020, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-too-electric-boogaloo/846235/47 "2020-01-16T16:00:50Z")
> [@Lumpy](#): > > Moderate? The VA state Democrats are proposing laws that amount to “you can’t own any guns the government decides it doesn’t want you to have”. That pretty much shits on gun ownership as a fundamental right, and the Dems don’t care if the troglodytes object, they plan to cram it down the throats of the populace because what’s “right” trumps what the hoi polloi want- which pretty much shits on the idea of democracy. When local law enforcement proclaimed that they didn’t want to have to be the ones to enforce these laws, the Dems declared they’d have the VA National Guard do it- and then the Guard declared that they didn’t want to have to either. > > Despite deep doubts about the constitutionality of such laws, the Democratic majority is falling back on the old authoritarian mantra of “THE Law is THE Law!”. I wonder if the African-American legislators in favor of this would have had a similar attitude during the civil disobedience campaigns of the Civil Rights era. About a quarter of the democrats in the state assembly and senate cannot vote to limit gun rights without almost guaranteeing a loss in the next election. THe Democrats hold both houses by a slim margin. The chances of there being anything either meaningful or particularly inconvenient are low. I suspect they will limit you to one gun purchase a month. This is not actually very inconvenient for most people and they can tell Bloomberg that he got something for all his financial support. The redistricting fights are going to take over pretty soon along with the ERA and the Presidential election. Virginia is trending blue but it is a long way from being California. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2020, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-too-electric-boogaloo/846235/48 "2020-01-16T23:14:57Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > [The legal loopholes that let people get automatic guns - Vox](https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/10/4/16412910/automatic-guns-las-vegas-shooting) > > You may have heard the “bump stock” controversy and political discussion about trying to make them illegal. They replace the normal stock on a rifle, so get around the language you quoted about a “simple modification or elimination of existing component parts”. > > The way it works: > > \*\*The device basically replaces the gun’s shoulder rest, with a “support step” that covers the trigger opening. By holding the pistol grip with one hand and pushing forward on the barrel with the other, the shooter’s finger comes in contact with the trigger. The recoil causes the gun to buck back and forth, “bumping” the trigger. > > Technically, that means the finger is pulling the trigger for each round fired, keeping the weapon a legal semi-automatic.\*\* > > It’s a sneaky loophole. The controversy continues. From the plaintiff’s brief in one of the Las Vegas shooting cases: > [@](#): > > The Akins Accelerator was an early iteration of the bump stock that came on the market in 2006. Id. ¶ 90. According to its patent application, the Accelerator produced continuous fire with a single depression of the trigger and the immobilization of the shooter’s trigger finger. Id. The Akins Accelerator was recalled after ATF found it was a machine gun; but Mr. Akins found an easy workaround, then renamed the device and put it back on the market. Id. ¶ 91. The company with whom Mr. Akins partnered sold it online with the following description: > > Ever wonder what it would feel like to own a Machine Gun? Heck Yeah, who doesn’t. . . . The Bumpski is the civilian legal way to convert your semi-auto rifle to bump firing, lead throwing, brass spitting rifle that you have always dreamed of owning. Simply replace your existing stock with the FosTech kit that matches your rifle and away you go. > > Id. > > In 2010, a bump stock called Slide Fire came on the market. Id. ¶ 93. Like the Akins Accelerator, the Slide Fire bump stock replaced the AR-15’s stock and modified the weapon so that the shooter could cycle fire with a single trigger pull. Id. ¶ 94. The Slide Fire website advised customers to “[m]ake sure your finger is tightly seated on the finger rest and that it does not move while you are shooting your firearm. After years of shooting by moving your finger, it can be a hard habit to break.” Id. Slide Fire also “improved” the bump stock design, facilitating modification in minutes, with only a screwdriver. Id. ¶ 95. The device’s inventor has boasted that “Slide Fire brings shooters the same full auto experience” as a fully automatic firearm. Id. ¶¶ 96-97. ---
**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2020, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-too-electric-boogaloo/846235/49 "2020-01-22T13:56:30Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > “Above all, do no compromise” ? Rule by horse. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2020, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-too-electric-boogaloo/846235/50 "2020-01-23T17:42:13Z")
> [@Lumpy](#): > > Moderate? The VA state Democrats are proposing laws that amount to “you can’t own any guns the government decides it doesn’t want you to have”. That pretty much shits on gun ownership as a fundamental right, and the Dems don’t care if the troglodytes object, they plan to cram it down the throats of the populace because what’s “right” trumps what the hoi polloi want- which pretty much shits on the idea of democracy. When local law enforcement proclaimed that they didn’t want to have to be the ones to enforce these laws, the Dems declared they’d have the VA National Guard do it- and then the Guard declared that they didn’t want to have to either. > > Despite deep doubts about the constitutionality of such laws, the Democratic majority is falling back on the old authoritarian mantra of “THE Law is THE Law!”. I wonder if the African-American legislators in favor of this would have had a similar attitude during the civil disobedience campaigns of the Civil Rights era. You are completely full of shit. Now that the shit show is over and NONE of those tiny dicked no balls having motherfuckers was arrested or had their toys taken away, we see just how full of shit their whole narrative was all along. They went there in fake ass uniforms and with guns, to intimidate. They got laughed at for the inbred pussified incels they are… Their 3 Nazi agent provocateurs got busted. No guns were grabbed. No evul librulz or anteefas attacked. No brown people went after them. even the cops left them pretty much alone. It was a clear demonstration of the fact that they are/were/always will be full of shit. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2020, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-too-electric-boogaloo/846235/51 "2020-01-23T17:52:31Z")
“The only reason nobody fucked with us gun nuts is _because_ we demonstrated proudly, out in the open! If we hadn’t done that, they’d have taken our guns away! MAGA!” ---
**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-too-electric-boogaloo/846235/52 "2020-01-24T13:45:50Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > You are completely full of shit. > > Now that the shit show is over and NONE of those tiny dicked no balls having motherfuckers was arrested or had their toys taken away, we see just how full of shit their whole narrative was all along. > > They went there in fake ass uniforms and with guns, to intimidate. They got laughed at for the inbred pussified incels they are… Their 3 Nazi agent provocateurs got busted. No guns were grabbed. No evul librulz or anteefas attacked. No brown people went after them. even the cops left them pretty much alone. > > It was a clear demonstration of the fact that they are/were/always will be full of shit. Wait a second; this whole thread was about screaming that the Brownshirts were here. How the lawless hordes were about to rebel against lawful civil order and resort to assassination, murder and violence. But now that the gun owners in fact demonstrated restraint, civility and common sense, suddenly they’re “inbred pussified incels”- just for NOT being the murderous savages they were originally condemned as? I’m reminded of the headline at the parody news site The Bablyon Bee: “Media Offers Thoughts And Prayers That Someone Would Start Some Violence At Gun Rights Rally” YOU are completely full of shit. It’s now crystal clear that there’s absolutely nothing gun owners could say or do that you would respect. Fuck you. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-too-electric-boogaloo/846235/53 "2020-01-24T14:13:34Z")
> [@Lumpy](#): > > Wait a second; this whole thread was about screaming that the Brownshirts were here. How the lawless hordes were about to rebel against lawful civil order and resort to assassination, murder and violence. But now that the gun owners in fact demonstrated restraint, civility and common sense, suddenly they’re “inbred pussified incels”- just for NOT being the murderous savages they were originally condemned as? > > I’m reminded of the headline at the parody news site The Bablyon Bee: “Media Offers Thoughts And Prayers That Someone Would Start Some Violence At Gun Rights Rally” > > YOU are completely full of shit. It’s now crystal clear that there’s absolutely nothing gun owners could say or do that you would respect. Fuck you. I’m a gun owner. I have a Marlin .22 semiauto. In the past, I’ve had a Marlin 33C, Ruger Model 3, Ruger Super Blackhawk, Ruger 10-22, Ruger Single Six, Remington 870 Wingmaster, etc etc etc. I was also in the Army for 4 years (Spec 5, MOS 33S) - wqhich is more than those shit stain cowards ever fucking did. So FUCK YOU AND FUCK THOSE WANNA BE’s. FUCK YOU. FUCK YOU, FUCK YOUR FAKE ASS UNIFORMS, FUCK THAT CIVIL WAR YOU KEEP SAYING YOU WILL START, AND FUCK YOU FOR TALKING ABOUT SECOND AMENDMENT SOLUTIONS. Kiss my fucking ass. ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2020, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-too-electric-boogaloo/846235/54 "2020-01-24T14:50:59Z")
Hey, I respect the fact that they held a peaceful rally, and said so right on this board. Still, there are some things they could improve on for next time: -No threats of starting “The Boogaloo” aka Civil War Ii. -No death threats, against the legislature or anyone else. -No hysterical and moronic caricatures of their opposition, such as “They’re banning guns!!” or “They’re repealing the 2nd!!” or “The UN is going to invade VA and occupy it to help the Democrats grab our guns!!” Do please get real. -Could they hold a rally that doesn’t trigger a state of emergency next time, please? -If nobody gets arrested before the next rally for issuing terroristic threats, it will look even more peaceful -Speaking of looks, does it Have to be on Jackson/Lee day? Because few things say Ignorant Redneck more than glorifying the Civil War. And another thing, **Lumpy** , why do you have **elucidator’s** picture for an avatar? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-too-electric-boogaloo/846235.md?page=2)