# Fuck you, Tourneau and your deceptive business practices! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 27, 2009, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-tourneau-and-your-deceptive-business-practices/522745 "2009-12-27T23:44:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![St.Anger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@St.Anger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/St.Anger)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2009, 5:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-tourneau-and-your-deceptive-business-practices/522745/41 "2009-12-29T05:38:36Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > I prefer lemon-lime douchebags, myself. Is that better than vinegar and water? ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2009, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-tourneau-and-your-deceptive-business-practices/522745/42 "2009-12-29T05:40:30Z")
Certainly leaves me feeling fresher. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2009, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-tourneau-and-your-deceptive-business-practices/522745/43 "2009-12-29T06:23:34Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > Certainly leaves me feeling fresher. But cunninlingus without fresh balsamic flavor? What, are you a madman? Anyway, what I want to know out of this is: how does a store that sells nice trinkets like watches for thousands of dollars a pop get away with a “no returns” clause? I understand the “rental bling” side of things, but are those people really a big enough segment of their market to raise a corporate middle finger to ALL their customers? ---
**Author:** ![kidneyfailure](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9f8e36/32.png) [@kidneyfailure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidneyfailure)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2009, 8:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-tourneau-and-your-deceptive-business-practices/522745/44 "2009-12-29T08:37:22Z")
> [@Stink Fish Pot](#): > > Everyone spends their money as they see fit. No one should be screwed out of their money under any circumstances, including deceptive business practices. Indeed. Yes, there are plenty of douchebags with their flashy watches, suits, and cars who bought them as status symbols. But, at the same time, there are also plenty of people (probably most) who bought that watch, suit, or car because they thought it looked good (or thought someone for whom they were buying a gift would think it looked good). My cell phone tells time, too, but I bought a brass pocket watch at an antique store once, had it repaired, and use it everyday because I like it. What’s the problem with either of these scenarios? If I was in the OP’s spot, I would have just worn the watch even if I didn’t like it because it might have made my wife happy 😉 ---
**Author:** ![groo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecd19e/32.png) [@groo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/groo)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2009, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-tourneau-and-your-deceptive-business-practices/522745/45 "2009-12-29T12:55:39Z")
> [@Nava](#): > > Because of corrosive sweat? Dad sort’a… ate through watches. The titanium one Mom bought him to celebrate they’d been together for 30 years is the only one that really lasted. He wore it for 12 years, she uses it now (it’s relatively small within being a man’s model, as Dad had small hands). Is your father an alien being? Sigourney Weaver was in a bunch of documentaries about creatures with highly corrosive internal fluids… I like to brag that the watch I wear cost more than thirty four dollars, though I don’t begrudge some of my friends with Rolexes. Some people get some positive energy from odd luxuries (e.g., Kitchen Maid mixers, elaborate espresso machines, PC gaming rigs). [minor aside] I was recently surprised to see a friend of mine, a very practical person when it comes to money, driving an Audi TT, and complimented him on being able to make that decision. He’s got money carved out for his kids’ colleges, his Hermosa Beach house is paid off, and he’s managed to get out at the top in the last two bubbles. Why not get a car he wanted and can afford? [/aside] ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2009, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-tourneau-and-your-deceptive-business-practices/522745/46 "2009-12-29T13:11:26Z")
> [@groo](#): > > Is your father an alien being? Sigourney Weaver was in a bunch of documentaries about creatures with highly corrosive internal fluids… In his case, the corrosive fluids were external. And yes, we suspect he may have been an alien, only his elder brother and him were similar-looking enough that people would mistake them, and my uncle didn’t have the corrosive sweat. Maybe uncle was a first attempt at introducing a changeling and Dad was the improved model? ---
**Author:** ![PunditLisa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4af34b/32.png) [@PunditLisa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PunditLisa)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2009, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-tourneau-and-your-deceptive-business-practices/522745/47 "2009-12-29T13:24:06Z")
“No returns” is insane. Full retail at all times is insane. Why in the world did your wife shop there in the first place? The only thing Tourneau sounds good for is looking at/feeling merchandise before trotting home and buying the same thing off Amazon. That’s the digital world way of cheating retailers. ---
**Author:** ![LilGypsyGirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/54ee81/32.png) [@LilGypsyGirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LilGypsyGirl)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2009, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-tourneau-and-your-deceptive-business-practices/522745/48 "2009-12-29T16:07:49Z")
I’ve been in a few different Torneau’s in a few different states (NY, FL and CA) - and though I DO agree that the “no returns” policy is madness, that policy was pretty much plastered in plain sight wherever I looked. They WILL exchange, but not return. Is it possible that your wife just didn’t notice the policy in the first place when she made the purchase? Either way, not being able to return something is idiocy - although, I would assume that if someone is dropping a few grand on a watch, the likelihood of returning it is pretty slim - most people spending that kind of scratch are pretty confident in what they want. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2009, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-tourneau-and-your-deceptive-business-practices/522745/49 "2009-12-29T16:13:26Z")
Mental help? Just kidding. My dad collects Rolexes, and while I wouldn’t wear one, I totally “get it”. ---
**Author:** ![crypto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b3f665/32.png) [@crypto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crypto)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2009, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-tourneau-and-your-deceptive-business-practices/522745/50 "2009-12-30T02:20:12Z")
> [@LilGypsyGirl](#): > > I’ve been in a few different Torneau’s in a few different states (NY, FL and CA) - and though I DO agree that the “no returns” policy is madness, that policy was pretty much plastered in plain sight wherever I looked. They WILL exchange, but not return. > > Is it possible that your wife just didn’t notice the policy in the first place when she made the purchase? Either way, not being able to return something is idiocy - although, I would assume that if someone is dropping a few grand on a watch, the likelihood of returning it is pretty slim - most people spending that kind of scratch are pretty confident in what they want. My wife was told the policy before she purchased the watch. She specifically said that it was a gift and would not buy it unless they permitted her to return it for a refund if I didn’t like it. That’s when the manager signed off on the receipt with the “return for refund permitted”. Since both her and the guy behind her in line to return a watch (both on Dec. 26), had the same thing on their receipts (refund scratched out, exchange written above it), it seems that this is a standard business tactic. They DID give a full refund, so there isn’t much I can do about being treated poorly. They did, however, keep the doctored receipt and gave my wife the credited receipt instead. They also did this with the other guy, which is their way of covering their ass (I’m guessing) if someone wanted to take them to court. After getting the refund, I’m guessing most people would be happy to just get out of there. I found the same watch online for $1K cheaper, PLUS no tax. Maybe there is something I’m missing, but if this is how they treat the average customer that walks through the doors, I’m baffled as to how they stay open. Oh, and **aruvqan** , thanks for the link. I never heard of that watch brand before, but I’ve looked around the site, and there are a few watches that appeal to me. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2009, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-tourneau-and-your-deceptive-business-practices/522745/51 "2009-12-30T23:17:50Z")
> [@Stink Fish Pot](#): > > I found the same watch online for $1K cheaper, PLUS no tax. You didn’t BUY it, of course. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2009, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-tourneau-and-your-deceptive-business-practices/522745/52 "2009-12-31T01:38:50Z")
Of course not. The website probably has a return policy. ---
**Author:** ![Rumor\_Watkins](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d9b06d/32.png) [@Rumor\_Watkins](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rumor_Watkins)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2009, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-tourneau-and-your-deceptive-business-practices/522745/53 "2009-12-31T01:44:38Z")
> [@kidneyfailure](#): > > Indeed. Yes, there are plenty of douchebags with their flashy watches, suits, and cars who bought them as status symbols. But, at the same time, there are also plenty of people (probably most) who bought that watch, suit, or car because they thought it looked good (or thought someone for whom they were buying a gift would think it looked good). I don’t think you fully understand the power of marketing if you think that most people buy luxury items because they liked the asthetic of the item. Change “Omega” to “Qmega” and see how well those things sell. (I am not claiming that they are necessarily douchebags, but the assertion that most people don’t buy recognized status symbol items precisely because they are status symbols is kind of inane) ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2009, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-tourneau-and-your-deceptive-business-practices/522745/54 "2009-12-31T04:35:17Z")
Sometimes, things that are or become status symbols really are high quality items and are worth the money to those that can afford it. Like Louis Vuitton purses, for example. Man, those things are worth EVERY PENNY!! I wouldn’t trust my wife’s collection of receipts, tissues, bad checks, etc to anything else! ---
**Author:** ![crypto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b3f665/32.png) [@crypto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crypto)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2009, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-tourneau-and-your-deceptive-business-practices/522745/55 "2009-12-31T14:43:38Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > You didn’t BUY it, of course. What’s your point? I didn’t buy the watch because I didn’t like it. If I liked the watch, I would have kept the one my wife got me for Christmas. MY point was that one can find the same products that are sold at Tourneau with a simple web search, for much less, AND have the ability to return it. I’m amazed that folks are turning this pit thread into a debate on they type of people that buy nice watches (or anything else). If you want to do that, why not start a pit thread along those lines? If you have an opinion on Tourneau’s business practices, by all means share it. If not, threadshit somewhere else. What a bunch of wankers (you know who you are). It seems that there are more than a few people in this thread that would be perfect Tourneau employees. Jealousy masked as being “practical” is pathetic. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2009, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-tourneau-and-your-deceptive-business-practices/522745/56 "2009-12-31T19:30:45Z")
> [@Stink Fish Pot](#): > > What’s your point? > > I didn’t buy the watch because I didn’t like it. If I liked the watch, I would have kept the one my wife got me for Christmas. MY point was that one can find the same products that are sold at Tourneau with a simple web search, for much less, AND have the ability to return it. > > I’m amazed that folks are turning this pit thread into a debate on they type of people that buy nice watches (or anything else). If you want to do that, why not start a pit thread along those lines? If you have an opinion on Tourneau’s business practices, by all means share it. > > If not, threadshit somewhere else. > > What a bunch of wankers (you know who you are). It seems that there are more than a few people in this thread that would be perfect Tourneau employees. > > Jealousy masked as being “practical” is pathetic. Strutting like a peacock while smugly wearing expensive jewelry is pathetic too. So I guess we’re even here. 😃 Actually, I have no problem with buying something expensive if you want it. However I do have a problem with the people who buy those things to show them off, and those are the exact people who would take advantage of a return policy. You are the one taking an attack against those who buy things simply to wow others as a personal attack. ---
**Author:** ![sugar\_and\_spice](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e8c25b/32.png) [@sugar\_and\_spice](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sugar_and_spice)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2009, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-tourneau-and-your-deceptive-business-practices/522745/57 "2009-12-31T19:41:47Z")
> [@Stink Fish Pot](#): > > Maybe there is something I’m missing, but if this is how they treat the average customer that walks through the doors, I’m baffled as to how they stay open. ISTM that customers who tell the manager they may be returning their watch on December 26 are not really their target market, given that most people who want the option of a full refund (including myself) would see their return policy and walk out the door. So your wife isn’t really their average customer, and so they’re probably not worried about loosing her business (which isn’t really “business” if you don’t spend money there). ---
**Author:** ![leander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bcef8e/32.png) [@leander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leander)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2009, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-tourneau-and-your-deceptive-business-practices/522745/58 "2009-12-31T19:57:01Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > Strutting like a peacock while smugly wearing expensive jewelry is pathetic too. So I guess we’re even here. > > 😃 > > Actually, I have no problem with buying something expensive if you want it. However I do have a problem with the people who buy those things to show them off, and those are the exact people who would take advantage of a return policy. > > You are the one taking an attack against those who buy things simply to wow others as a personal attack. Get over yourself, kid. There’s one person in this thread acting like a douchebag and that’s you. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2009, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-tourneau-and-your-deceptive-business-practices/522745/59 "2009-12-31T20:00:13Z")
> [@leander](#): > > Get over yourself, kid. There’s one person in this thread acting like a douchebag and that’s you. That would explain my lemony scent. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![crypto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b3f665/32.png) [@crypto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crypto)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2009, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-tourneau-and-your-deceptive-business-practices/522745/60 "2009-12-31T20:15:02Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > Strutting like a peacock while smugly wearing expensive jewelry is pathetic too. So I guess we’re even here. > > 😃 > > Actually, I have no problem with buying something expensive if you want it. However I do have a problem with the people who buy those things to show them off, and those are the exact people who would take advantage of a return policy. > > You are the one taking an attack against those who buy things simply to wow others as a personal attack. Not really. I just find it strange (demented, actually) that you have taken as much time as you have to continually repeat your point in a thread about Tourneau and its return policy and have added exactly nothing to the topic of the OP itself. If you have a problem with people that buy luxury items, start your own pit thread about them. But no… you are more concerned with the fact that you can’t afford a nice watch. And even if you could, you wouldn’t buy one.:dubious: So basically, you are destined to live in a Ted Kazinsky type hut in the woods, with no running water or electricity, because anything else would be against your “principles.” of showing off and strutting. :dubious: \*\*Lobohan’s \*\*thought process seems to be… “why buy a toilet when you can just as easily shit in the woods?” If you have indoor plumbing, you are just a smug douchbag strutting like a peacock showing off that you can afford something you don’t really need." Instead, you throw out insults, and follow them up with a 😃 There is a word for that. People might refer to someone like you, or behaving like you as the same type of creature that lives under a bridge 😃 Not you, of course… 😃 Just people like you. 😃 And actually, we are not close to “even”. You’ve admitted being jealous of people who can afford a nice watch (or anything else, for that matter). You have no idea if I strut like a peacock, or if I am smug. And if you think that’s why people buy and wear nice things, you are a very sad individual, indeed. I guess this is where someone will come in to the thread and say SFTT. So I will. A smug prick that can only insult people on a message board has a sad enough life. Maybe your mom will buy you Avatar on dvd or blu-ray when it comes out with a box of tissues. And you can wank away with your on-line buds about the believability of the cost of unobtainium. 😃 Of course, none of this refers to you specifically. 😃 It’s a generic “you”.😃 If you take offense, that’s not my fault. 😃 It’s your mom’s, fanboy 😃 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-tourneau-and-your-deceptive-business-practices/522745.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-tourneau-and-your-deceptive-business-practices/522745.md?page=4)