# Fuck you, Tourneau and your deceptive business practices! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 27, 2009, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-tourneau-and-your-deceptive-business-practices/522745 "2009-12-27T23:44:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2009, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-tourneau-and-your-deceptive-business-practices/522745/61 "2009-12-31T20:35:01Z")
> [@Stink Fish Pot](#): > > What’s your point? > > I didn’t buy the watch because I didn’t like it. If I liked the watch, I would have kept the one my wife got me for Christmas. MY point was that one can find the same products that are sold at Tourneau with a simple web search, for much less, AND have the ability to return it. That’s kind of what I thought. If I didn’t like something that I had returned for a refund, I don’t think it would have occurred to me to go shopping for another one, unless I was looking for another reason to dislike the original retailer. Your privilege, though. Fair dos to you, and I’m glad you were able to find a better resource for your wife to use when shopping for timepieces. Cheers! ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2009, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-tourneau-and-your-deceptive-business-practices/522745/62 "2009-12-31T20:52:26Z")
> [@Stink Fish Pot](#): > > Not really. I just find it strange (demented, actually) that you have taken as much time as you have to continually repeat your point in a thread about Tourneau and its return policy and have added exactly nothing to the topic of the OP itself. If you have a problem with people that buy luxury items, start your own pit thread about them. I explained to you why they have the policy. It is directly on topic in the thread. You however took that as a personal attack. So I’m sorry you took umbrage. But you are the one acting stupid here. > [@](#): > > But no… you are more concerned with the fact that you can’t afford a nice watch. And even if you could, you wouldn’t buy one.:dubious: So basically, you are destined to live in a Ted Kazinsky type hut in the woods, with no running water or electricity, because anything else would be against your “principles.” of showing off and strutting. :dubious: \*\*Lobohan’s \*\*thought process seems to be… “why buy a toilet when you can just as easily shit in the woods?” If you have indoor plumbing, you are just a smug douchbag strutting like a peacock showing off that you can afford something you don’t really need." Not at all. I’m all for buying nice things. I’m not for buying silly shit that you would only use to impress the rubes. You can’t understand that because, I suspect you are one of those douchebags who like showing off to others. You probably couldn’t give a shit about workmanship, you just want Ted in accounting to drool over your watch. I didn’t think that of you at first, but the only people I’ve attacked in this thread are those sort of people and you are taking it personally. > [@](#): > > Instead, you throw out insults, and follow them up with a 😃 I didn’t insult you, I insulted guido shitbirds who wear expensive shit as a symbol of status and power. If you’re a guido shitbird, I guess I did insult you. > [@](#): > > There is a word for that. People might refer to someone like you, or behaving like you as the same type of creature that lives under a bridge 😃 Not you, of course… 😃 Just people like you. 😃 There is a word for people like you, and it’s silly. > [@](#): > > And actually, we are not close to “even”. You’ve admitted being jealous of people who can afford a nice watch (or anything else, for that matter). No I didn’t. I said I don’t approve of buying expensive jewelry to show it off. > [@](#): > > You have no idea if I strut like a peacock, or if I am smug. And if you think that’s why people buy and wear nice things, you are a very sad individual, indeed. I know that I attacked people who strut like a peacock and you took offense. Either you’re too stupid to see the distinction or you’re a strutting douchebag. I’m voting stupid, because I don’t see you as that shallow. > [@](#): > > I guess this is where someone will come in to the thread and say SFTT. So I will. A smug prick that can only insult people on a message board has a sad enough life. Maybe your mom will buy you Avatar on dvd or blu-ray when it comes out with a box of tissues. And you can wank away with your on-line buds about the believability of the cost of unobtainium. 😃 Again, instead of understanding you attack. You’re a child throwing a tantrum because you refuse to think. > [@](#): > > Of course, none of this refers to you specifically. 😃 It’s a generic “you”.😃 I think you doth protest too much. > [@](#): > > If you take offense, that’s not my fault. 😃 It’s your mom’s, fanboy 😃 Your wife found the perfect gift for someone as uncomplicated and arrogant as yourself. Enjoy the watch and the wows it gives the onlookers. Srsly. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2009, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-tourneau-and-your-deceptive-business-practices/522745/63 "2009-12-31T21:00:26Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > I explained to you why they have the policy. It is directly on topic in the thread. You however took that as a personal attack. So I’m sorry you took umbrage. But you are the one acting stupid here. If you’re attempting to draw a distinction between people who wear nice things because they like to and people who just want to show off, you’ve failed in your effort. You’re coming off as terribly judgemental about anyone who wears any bling for any reason. Maybe instead of further insulting people for their lack of reading comprehension skills, you should take a look at your own communication skills. ---
**Author:** ![leander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bcef8e/32.png) [@leander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leander)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2009, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-tourneau-and-your-deceptive-business-practices/522745/64 "2009-12-31T21:02:53Z")
Lobohan, how old are you? Seriously, you’re coming across as a jealous and petulant teenager. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2009, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-tourneau-and-your-deceptive-business-practices/522745/65 "2009-12-31T21:14:27Z")
> [@tdn](#): > > If you’re attempting to draw a distinction between people who wear nice things because they like to and people who just want to show off, you’ve failed in your effort. You’re coming off as terribly judgemental about anyone who wears any bling for any reason. > > Maybe instead of further insulting people for their lack of reading comprehension skills, you should take a look at your own communication skills. Perhaps. I personally wouldn’t waste money on a $10k wristwatch, but I understand the like of something crafted very well. What I disdain is an adult man wearing our society’s equivalent of a gigantic [penis-gourd](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koteka). Ya dig? I would note that SFP above’s response to my disdain of such frillery is that I must not be able to afford it. Doesn’t that seem like what a jerk would say? ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2009, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-tourneau-and-your-deceptive-business-practices/522745/66 "2009-12-31T21:15:31Z")
> [@leander](#): > > Lobohan, how old are you? Seriously, you’re coming across as a jealous and petulant teenager. You’re not my dad! ---
**Author:** ![St.Anger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@St.Anger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/St.Anger)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2009, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-tourneau-and-your-deceptive-business-practices/522745/67 "2009-12-31T21:23:17Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > Perhaps. I personally wouldn’t waste money on a $10k wristwatch, but I understand the like of something crafted very well. What I disdain is an adult man wearing our society’s equivalent of a gigantic [penis-gourd](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koteka). Ya dig? > > I would note that SFP above’s response to my disdain of such frillery is that I must not be able to afford it. Doesn’t that seem like what a jerk would say? Yes. A RICH jerk. Now go home to your trailer down by the river and cry into your moonshine, you plebeian. ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2009, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-tourneau-and-your-deceptive-business-practices/522745/68 "2009-12-31T21:34:28Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > Perhaps. I personally wouldn’t waste money on a $10k wristwatch, but I understand the like of something crafted very well. What I disdain is an adult man wearing our society’s equivalent of a gigantic [penis-gourd](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koteka). Ya dig? Yeah, I dig. You just come off as not seeing that distinction very clearly. I’m sure that’s not what you intended to communicate, but that’s certainly how I read it, and I’m guessing I’m not alone in that. Question: When you see a man wearing a bit of bling, do you automatically assume that he’s trying to impress people and that deep down he’s shallow? Or do you give him the benefit of the doubt? ---
**Author:** ![Rumor\_Watkins](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d9b06d/32.png) [@Rumor\_Watkins](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rumor_Watkins)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2009, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-tourneau-and-your-deceptive-business-practices/522745/69 "2009-12-31T21:49:02Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > I would note that SFP above’s response to my disdain of such frillery is that I must not be able to afford it. Doesn’t that seem like what a jerk would say? It doesn’t make for a good point of argument and it has a whiff of blustering, yes. Jerk? don’t know. no comment. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2009, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-tourneau-and-your-deceptive-business-practices/522745/70 "2009-12-31T22:05:16Z")
> [@tdn](#): > > Yeah, I dig. You just come off as not seeing that distinction very clearly. I’m sure that’s not what you intended to communicate, but that’s certainly how I read it, and I’m guessing I’m not alone in that. > > Question: When you see a man wearing a bit of bling, do you automatically assume that he’s trying to impress people and that deep down he’s shallow? Or do you give him the benefit of the doubt? I wouldn’t judge anyone without knowing something substantive about them. I’d assume someone with a very expensive watch was fairly wealthy unless I knew otherwise, I suppose. ---
**Author:** ![crypto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b3f665/32.png) [@crypto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crypto)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2009, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-tourneau-and-your-deceptive-business-practices/522745/71 "2009-12-31T22:15:32Z")
> [@Rumor\_Watkins](#): > > It doesn’t make for a good point of argument and it has a whiff of blustering, yes. > > Jerk? don’t know. no comment. please. I’m guilty of spending too much time writing a reply to an annoying child. Oh, and hitting the “Submit Reply” button. His entire appearance in this thread was to annoy. I was pissed at Tourneau when I wrote the original OP, and then I read a reply from some asswipe that implied my wife was a douchebag for buying the watch (since it was a gift, and I didn’t ask for it, I guess she would qualify by said asswipe’s definition). I am also guilty of FTT. Perhaps \*\*Lobohan \*\*will be different once he gets through puberty. But I doubt it. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2009, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-tourneau-and-your-deceptive-business-practices/522745/72 "2009-12-31T22:21:46Z")
> [@Stink Fish Pot](#): > > please. > > I’m guilty of spending too much time writing a reply to an annoying child. > > Oh, and hitting the “Submit Reply” button. > > His entire appearance in this thread was to annoy. I was pissed at Tourneau when I wrote the original OP, and then I read a reply from some asswipe that implied my wife was a douchebag for buying the watch (since it was a gift, and I didn’t ask for it, I guess she would qualify by said asswipe’s definition). > > I am also guilty of FTT. Perhaps \*\*Lobohan \*\*will be different once he gets through puberty. But I doubt it. You’re guilty of being stupid. Re-read my first post. I said that the store has the policy because lowlifes would target a store like that. I in no way said your wife is a lowlife. You’re just too stupid to understand that some dogs are Mastiffs, but not all of them. I don’t know your wife, but I suspect she’s a saint. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![crypto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b3f665/32.png) [@crypto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crypto)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2009, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-tourneau-and-your-deceptive-business-practices/522745/73 "2009-12-31T23:12:59Z")
OK, genius. Now YOU read it again. > [@](#): > > If I had to guess, I’d assume that the reason they have that policy is because douchebags will buy a watch for a business meeting or clubbing or something, just to seem like a bigshot, and then return it after. > > High end watches are like jalapeno poppers for douchebags. Your first sentence was all that was required. Your second sentence was you stating your opinion on what type of people buy high-end watches. When I asked you to explain your second sentence, you spewed this nonsense: > [@](#): > > No, but douchebags in particular are drawn to them. > > I would think if you isolated every person wearing a high-end watch on Earth and subjected them to a douchebag test (perhaps by unpopping their collars and seeing how long it takes them to re-pop), the douchebag ratio of those killed would be higher than the population at large. > > A high-end watch is for some people a sports-car you can show off indoors. In my experience. > > Notice all the weasel words I used, I’m in no way suggesting that everyone who buys a watch for 10 to 1000 times the price of a comparably functional one is trying to strut like a pathetic peacock, but those type are out there and they will abuse the fuck out of a store like Tourneau. You still think you just answered the OP? You are a weird person. You have used, in this thread on more than one occasion, things like “strutting like a peacock”, “baubles”, “rubes” and “douchebag”. So it appears that you have, among other things, (and aside from an incredible vocabulary) high-end watch envy. I can’t help it if you don’t have a job, or a job that pays enough to buy nice things, or someone in your family that can afford to buy nice gifts for you. But don’t for a minute try to tell any one that your “interest” in this thread is to do anything more than try to get a reaction out of people. You add nothing. Probably similar to your real life experience. I’m going out now… New Year’s Eve and all that. I’m sure there will be a nice reply from you in this thread the next time I look. You seem intent on having the last “word”. So enjoy yourself. Even if you have to type with one hand. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2010, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-tourneau-and-your-deceptive-business-practices/522745/74 "2010-01-01T00:02:15Z")
Oh for god’s sake. **Lobohan** is being a twit, but you waaaay overreacted to his first post, **Stink**. It had nothing to do with your wife or you. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2010, 10:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-tourneau-and-your-deceptive-business-practices/522745/75 "2010-01-01T10:00:41Z")
> [@Stink Fish Pot](#): > > OK, genius. Now YOU read it again. > > Your first sentence was all that was required. Your second sentence was you stating your opinion on what type of people buy high-end watches. > > When I asked you to explain your second sentence, you spewed this nonsense: > > You still think you just answered the OP? You are a weird person. > > You have used, in this thread on more than one occasion, things like “strutting like a peacock”, “baubles”, “rubes” and “douchebag”. So it appears that you have, among other things, (and aside from an incredible vocabulary) high-end watch envy. > > I can’t help it if you don’t have a job, or a job that pays enough to buy nice things, or someone in your family that can afford to buy nice gifts for you. > > But don’t for a minute try to tell any one that your “interest” in this thread is to do anything more than try to get a reaction out of people. You add nothing. Probably similar to your real life experience. > > I’m going out now… New Year’s Eve and all that. I’m sure there will be a nice reply from you in this thread the next time I look. You seem intent on having the last “word”. So enjoy yourself. Even if you have to type with one hand. I notice that you attack instead of understanding. Why do you assume that the only reason someone might not want a 10k watch is envy or sour grapes? I’ve just gotten back from my new years party and you know, there were douchebags wearing expensive watches trying to impress shallow women. Imagine my surprise. Again, SFP, you’re not thinking. You seem incapable of understanding that some douchebags are drawn to expensive watches. That in no way suggests that everyone who buys an expensive watch is a douchebag. It’s surprising that you have the nerve to come to a site that particularly is about fighting ignorance when you cannot understand that to say that some doors are red in no way means all doors are red. You don’t belong here if you’re too stupid to understand that. But lat-tee-dah, you sure do have a nice watch. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![qbadger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/fbc32d/32.png) [@qbadger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/qbadger)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2010, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-tourneau-and-your-deceptive-business-practices/522745/76 "2010-01-01T13:57:20Z")
Is it just me or did the Pit threads used to be of higher quality and entertainment value? Walk away guys… just walk away. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2010, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-tourneau-and-your-deceptive-business-practices/522745/77 "2010-01-01T20:42:27Z")
Well, in another thread we’re having a nice argument about which decade the year 2010 is a part of. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2010, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-tourneau-and-your-deceptive-business-practices/522745/78 "2010-01-01T20:49:11Z")
If you had an expensive wristwatch you’d already know. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![R.P.McMurphy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7993a0/32.png) [@R.P.McMurphy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/R.P.McMurphy)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2010, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-tourneau-and-your-deceptive-business-practices/522745/79 "2010-01-04T20:59:29Z")
> [@qbadger](#): > > Is it just me or did the Pit threads used to be of higher quality and entertainment value? > Walk away guys… just walk away. Really! I’d like to post about what a lousy operation Tourneau is but this thread is so polluted, why bother? ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2010, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-tourneau-and-your-deceptive-business-practices/522745/80 "2010-01-04T21:20:14Z")
If I may help \*\*Lobohan \*\*clarify his point: Rolex [Nice watch](http://www.delldeaton.com/images/16610rolex001aspectsq.jpg) [Douchebag watch](http://www.aclutx70th.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/rolex-diamond-bezel.jpg) Breitling [Nice watch](http://www.mens-watches-guide.com/images/breitling_navitimer_50th_anni.JPG) [Doucebag watch](http://bostonbling.net/images/breitling_chrono.jpg) Montblanc [Nice watch](http://www.pricescope.com/idealbb/files/Montblancwatch.jpg)(I like to think so. I bought it at the Tourneu sample sale last year for about 25-50% less than I’ve seen it offered anywhere else.) [Douchebag watch](http://www.ebuy4cheap.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/montblanc.jpg) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-tourneau-and-your-deceptive-business-practices/522745.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-tourneau-and-your-deceptive-business-practices/522745.md?page=5)