# Fuck you, Voice of Christian Youth America

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 8, 2008, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-voice-of-christian-youth-america/444468 "2008-04-08T15:40:53Z")\
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**Author:** ![Don\_t\_fight\_the\_hypothetical](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/59ef9b/32.png) [@Don\_t\_fight\_the\_hypothetical](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_t_fight_the_hypothetical)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2008, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-voice-of-christian-youth-america/444468/1 "2008-04-08T15:40:53Z")

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Arrgg. God damn it. Meddling fucking Christians.

\*\*"Kids’ Cross-Dressing Event Draws Ire  
Wisconsin Grade School’s Costume Tradition Enrages Christian Radio Network

(AP) An elementary-school event in which kids were encouraged to dress as members of the opposite gender drew the ire of a Christian radio group, whose angry broadcast prompted outraged calls to the district office."\*\*  
[Story here](http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/04/07/national/main3997968.shtml?source=RSSattr=HOME_3997968)

Mischaracterizing the event and sticking their big fucking nose in public school stuff again (where it doesn’t belong). I’m sure the kids are wondering what they did wrong as well.

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**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2008, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-voice-of-christian-youth-america/444468/2 "2008-04-08T15:45:11Z")

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That’s just sad. Why does it seem all the fun things are shouted down by people who are scared of their own shadows? The kids probably had a blast. This reads to me like a PR stunt on the part of the radio station to excite their audience. There was no outcry from the parents etc when they were told about it.  
We are an interesting species. \<sigh\>

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**Author:** ![WolfpackJeep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpackjeep/32/2921_2.png) [@WolfpackJeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WolfpackJeep)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2008, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-voice-of-christian-youth-america/444468/3 "2008-04-08T16:18:55Z")

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I don’t understand why the school caved so easily. What are the fundies going to do to hurt them – boycott public schools? Quit paying taxes, maybe?

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Scrappy\_Hero\_Pup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ea5d25/32.png) [@Happy\_Scrappy\_Hero\_Pup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Scrappy_Hero_Pup)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2008, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-voice-of-christian-youth-america/444468/4 "2008-04-08T16:21:10Z")

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When dresses are outlawed, only outlaws will wear dresses.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2008, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-voice-of-christian-youth-america/444468/5 "2008-04-08T16:24:37Z")

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Not to defend this group, but why should they not stick their noses into public school policy? Many people in the US can’t afford to send their kids to private schools. I can see where lots of parents wouldn’t be too thrilled about the idea of their kids being encouraged to cross-dress, even if it’s for “whacky week”.

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**Author:** ![Omegaman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e480ec/32.png) [@Omegaman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omegaman)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2008, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-voice-of-christian-youth-america/444468/6 "2008-04-08T16:31:57Z")

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When I was a kid the had Sadie Hawkins dances. Seems like the same thing to me and nobody was bitching then.

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**Author:** ![Kinthalis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kinthalis/32/16084_2.png) [@Kinthalis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kinthalis)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2008, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-voice-of-christian-youth-america/444468/7 "2008-04-08T16:52:48Z")

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[QUOTE=John Mace]  
I can see where lots of parents wouldn’t be too thrilled about the idea of their kids being encouraged to cross-dress, even if it’s for “whacky week”.  
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Why? 'cause they might catch teh gay?

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**Author:** ![hotflungwok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/edb3f5/32.png) [@hotflungwok](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hotflungwok)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2008, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-voice-of-christian-youth-america/444468/8 "2008-04-08T17:03:49Z")

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[QUOTE=Omegaman]  
When I was a kid the had Sadie Hawkins dances. Seems like the same thing to me and nobody was bitching then.  
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Did you dress up a girl for those? Pretty little dress, maybe a nice floral hat? Cuz I certainly don’t remember that.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2008, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-voice-of-christian-youth-america/444468/9 "2008-04-08T17:04:17Z")

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[QUOTE=Kinthalis]  
Why? 'cause they might catch teh gay?  
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Well, elementary school might be a little too young in many parents’ eyes. Some parents MIGHT feel that way-even if it’s wrong, I can understand why the school caved, even if I don’t agree. I have a feeling that most would just do it half-ass, girls wearing ties, like we did during Spirit Week when I was in high school. (Cross Dresser Day, PJ Day, etc)

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2008, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-voice-of-christian-youth-america/444468/10 "2008-04-08T17:08:36Z")

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My school (super conservative area of the deep south) had an annual Powder Puff football game in which girls were the players and guys in campy drag were cheerleaders, and senior boys often did a drag fashion show to raise money for the camp trip. Both were always a hit and I don’t remember even the religious getting bent out of shape.  
When I was a kid lots of churches used to put on “womanless weddings” as a fund raiser with the bride usually being portrayed by the ugliest fattest man in the congregation. They were always a hit (though at the time “womanless wedding” was intrinsically impossible).

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**Post date:** [April 8, 2008, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-voice-of-christian-youth-america/444468/11 "2008-04-08T17:17:39Z")

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[QUOTE=John Mace]  
Not to defend this group, but why should they not stick their noses into public school policy? Many people in the US can’t afford to send their kids to private schools. I can see where lots of parents wouldn’t be too thrilled about the idea of their kids being encouraged to cross-dress, even if it’s for “whacky week”.  
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It’s not clear from the article that any parents in the district actually complained. It _is_ clear to me that your typical public school administrator will do anything to avoid bad publicity.

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**Author:** ![Omegaman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e480ec/32.png) [@Omegaman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omegaman)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2008, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-voice-of-christian-youth-america/444468/12 "2008-04-08T17:18:23Z")

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[QUOTE=hotflungwok]  
Did you dress up a girl for those? Pretty little dress, maybe a nice floral hat? Cuz I certainly don’t remember that.  
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It was a moo-moo. Imagine Jethro Bodine in one. You get the picture.

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**Author:** ![Mikemike2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mikemike2/32/305_2.png) [@Mikemike2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mikemike2)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2008, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-voice-of-christian-youth-america/444468/13 "2008-04-08T17:24:22Z")

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[QUOTE=John Mace]  
Not to defend this group, but why should they not stick their noses into public school policy? Many people in the US can’t afford to send their kids to private schools. I can see where lots of parents wouldn’t be too thrilled about the idea of their kids being encouraged to cross-dress, even if it’s for “whacky week”.  
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Because it is none of their business. The parents didn’t object. The saddest thing is that the school will not repeat the costume day as they are evidently caving in.

I went to a christian private school in grade 12. We had a day were the girls and boys switched clothing. None of my classmates seemed to have caught transgender-ism. We did notice that some guys make better looking girls than some of the women folk as in Dave Thomas from Kids in the Hall.

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**Author:** ![photopat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e95f7d/32.png) [@photopat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/photopat)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2008, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-voice-of-christian-youth-america/444468/14 "2008-04-08T17:35:19Z")

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> A local resident informed the Voice of Christian Youth America on Friday. The Milwaukee-based radio network responded by interrupting its morning programming for a special broadcast that aired on nine radio stations throughout Wisconsin.

That should read, a local **busybody who can’t resist intruding in other peoples affairs**.

I like to think the broadcast started out: Ladies and gentlemen, I’m removing the stick from my ass so I can speak clearly to tell you about this heresy, this travesty on the natural state, this abomination of everything I hold dear…"

Won’t somebody please stop thinking of the children?

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**Post date:** [April 8, 2008, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-voice-of-christian-youth-america/444468/15 "2008-04-08T17:45:27Z")

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[QUOTE=Omegaman]  
When I was a kid the had Sadie Hawkins dances. Seems like the same thing to me and nobody was bitching then.  
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No. Or, more accurately, I strongly doubt your recollection.

Sadie Hawkins dances arose from an event in the comic strip _Lil’ Abner_. Desperate over his homely daughter Sadie’s all-but-certain spinsterhood, Hekzibiah Hawkins calls together all the bachelors in Dogpatch and tells them to start running. The one that Sadie catches will be her new husband.

The dance event captures that general feeling by making it traditional for the girls to ask the guys to the dance, as opposed to the other way ‘round, and sometimes by dressing in "Lil’ Abner"-inspired farm clothes.

I have never heard of a cross-dressing Sadie Hawkins event.

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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2008, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-voice-of-christian-youth-america/444468/16 "2008-04-08T18:02:19Z")

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More news of the American Taliban. How lovely!

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**Author:** ![Omegaman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e480ec/32.png) [@Omegaman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omegaman)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2008, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-voice-of-christian-youth-america/444468/17 "2008-04-08T18:04:46Z")

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[QUOTE=Bricker]  
No. Or, more accurately, I strongly doubt your recollection.

Sadie Hawkins dances arose from an event in the comic strip _Lil’ Abner_. Desperate over his homely daughter Sadie’s all-but-certain spinsterhood, Hekzibiah Hawkins calls together all the bachelors in Dogpatch and tells them to start running. The one that Sadie catches will be her new husband.

The dance event captures that general feeling by making it traditional for the girls to ask the guys to the dance, as opposed to the other way ‘round, and sometimes by dressing in "Lil’ Abner"-inspired farm clothes.

I have never heard of a cross-dressing Sadie Hawkins event.  
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You’re correct. It’s been a long time since I was 7th grade. It was the country attire I was thinking of.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2008, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-voice-of-christian-youth-america/444468/18 "2008-04-08T18:24:49Z")

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[QUOTE=Mikemike2]  
Because it is none of their business.  
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Why is it none of their business? They’re local, and someone local brought it to their attention. One might ask why we’re discussing this here-- it’s none of our business.

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> The parents didn’t object. The saddest thing is that the school will not repeat the costume day as they are evidently caving in.
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> I went to a christian private school in grade 12. We had a day were the girls and boys switched clothing. None of my classmates seemed to have caught transgender-ism. We did notice that some guys make better looking girls than some of the women folk as in Dave Thomas from Kids in the Hall.

We don’t know that the parents didn’t objected. It would be odd if the school administrators caved in on this if no parents were among those who eventually complained.

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**Post date:** [April 8, 2008, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-voice-of-christian-youth-america/444468/19 "2008-04-08T18:25:42Z")

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This reminds me of junior high, during induction week into the National Junior Honor Society. During the week, all the inductees had to dress like a baby one day, wear a sandwich board the next, etc. It was tradition at the school for years, until one parent complained, saying their kid shouldn’t have to do that. From then on, nobody ever got to have fun playing dress up again. Lame.

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**Post date:** [April 8, 2008, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-voice-of-christian-youth-america/444468/20 "2008-04-08T18:27:40Z")

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> “Our station is one that promotes traditional family values. It concerns us when a school district strikes at the heart and core of the Biblical values. To promote this to elementary-school students is a great error.”

Today’s lesson comes from the book of Headnassius.

\*When Chipotle arose, his garments were not in the tent, for his wife, Jalapeno, had taken them to the river to wash. So Chipotle did put on Jalapeno’s garments, and went forth into the camp.

Whereupon the Lord looked down, and seeing this, called out with a loud voice, saying, “Chipotle! What in the Wide, Wide World of Sports art thou doing? Why wearest thou thy wife’s garments? Hast teh gay been caught by thee?”

And Chipotle trembled, and made water on the ground, for he was afraid. He cried out, “I had nothing to wear, for my wife had taken my garments to be washed.”

The Lord replied, “Thy excuse be lame. That’s a smitin’.”

The clouds darkened, and a mighty ‘ZOT’ of lightning smote Chipotle before the rest of the camp. The elders built an altar on the spot, calling it Nixamuumuuswappahomonono, meaning “wear not gender improper raiment, lest thee catch teh gay, and thy ass be kicked”.\*

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