# Fuck You, Vote Democrat

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-vote-democrat/824019>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 5, 2018, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-vote-democrat/824019 "2018-11-05T17:15:51Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![xenophon41](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xenophon41/32/253_2.png) [@xenophon41](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xenophon41)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2018, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-vote-democrat/824019/61 "2018-11-06T05:05:20Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> And welcome back to the Err Apparent. Hope you stick around this time. 🙂

Seconded.

You always have a welcome here.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2018, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-vote-democrat/824019/62 "2018-11-06T05:11:37Z")

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I am voting straight ticket Dem. From now on. The “party of Trump” is the party of traitors and thieves. There is no Republican party anymore. They sold out. They betrayed this country for Trump and his boss Putin.

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**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2018, 5:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-vote-democrat/824019/63 "2018-11-06T05:38:14Z")

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> [@JB99](#):
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> (I skipped the city and county ballots because I’m not educated on local issues and have no reason to care.)

Why do you have no reason to care, if you don’t mind me asking?

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2018, 5:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-vote-democrat/824019/64 "2018-11-06T05:42:40Z")

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Since my state doesn’t have Voter ID I’m going to vote multiple times and straight Republican just to undo all of your Dumbocrat votes.

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**Author:** ![wevets](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9a140/32.png) [@wevets](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wevets)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2018, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-vote-democrat/824019/65 "2018-11-06T05:52:42Z")

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> [@Saint\_Cad](#):
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> Since my state doesn’t have Voter ID I’m going to vote multiple times and straight Republican just to undo all of your Dumbocrat votes.

Aha! We’ve found a moron who doesn’t understand how voter registration works!

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**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2018, 6:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-vote-democrat/824019/66 "2018-11-06T06:17:22Z")

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As felons can’t vote, I would expect that to be Saint Cad’s last election.

Still, in person voting fraud is rare enough that I’d expect him to become a minor celebrity. It is more likely that an American will be [struck by lighting](https://www.brennancenter.org/analysis/debunking-voter-fraud-myth) than he will impersonate another at the polls. So my fellow posters should feel privileged to have witnessed Saint Cad’s world class quality stupid. I knew you could do it SC. Congratulations.

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**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2018, 7:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-vote-democrat/824019/67 "2018-11-06T07:15:40Z")

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Oh yeah. If the Dems take the House, we get to see Trump’s taxes, just like every other modern President.

If the Republicans keep the House, they and Trump will conclude that there is no penalty for bad behavior. The Mueller investigation will be shut down and the self-dealing (Trump Hotel DC, various Saudi properties) will intensify. Also the incitements to violence against the press and others.  
[https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/the-stakes-are-dire](https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/the-stakes-are-dire)

That is why this is the first election that I’ve volunteered for a political campaign.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2018, 7:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-vote-democrat/824019/68 "2018-11-06T07:32:21Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> You living on Planet Earth? (Yes) Do you have some means of emigrating to a different planet? (No). Then it is in your best interest to do anything you can to facilitate the utter annihilation of the Republican Party.
> 
> In addition, if you aspire to the title of “decent human being,” it’s pretty much your moral obligation.

> [@Saint\_Cad](#):
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> Since my state doesn’t have Voter ID I’m going to vote multiple times and straight Republican just to undo all of your Dumbocrat votes.

Well, I guess we all know what _YOU_ don’t aspire to…

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**Author:** ![Isamu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/7c8e57/32.png) [@Isamu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isamu)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2018, 8:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-vote-democrat/824019/69 "2018-11-06T08:30:43Z")

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fingers crossed for you America. I really hope you can get back to some kind of normality. Ever single day has been frigtening with a baboon in the cockpit.

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**Author:** ![Jragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Jragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jragon)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2018, 8:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-vote-democrat/824019/70 "2018-11-06T08:55:10Z")

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I didn’t vote straight ticket.

Well, okay, I voted Dem for federal and state because FPTP is a garbage electoral system.

For local elections though I voted for the communist and the unaffiliated homeless advocate. Not that anything remotely right could even get elected here. Not that anyone remotely right **ran** here.

Refused to vote for the uncontested sheriff seat because ACAB.

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2018, 9:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-vote-democrat/824019/71 "2018-11-06T09:29:04Z")

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> [@Weird\_With\_Words](#):
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> My motto of the day: Fuck you, vote Democrat.

Nope. Vote Monster Raving Loony Party - it’s the only sensible choice. 🙂

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2018, 9:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-vote-democrat/824019/72 "2018-11-06T09:40:15Z")

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> [@Saint\_Cad](#):
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> Since my state doesn’t have Voter ID I’m going to vote multiple times and straight Republican just to undo all of your Dumbocrat votes.

Voting multiple times isn’t really possible in your circumstances, which you would know if you were an informed voter, but then informed voters don’t vote for Republicans.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2018, 10:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-vote-democrat/824019/73 "2018-11-06T10:36:49Z")

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> [@Whack-a-Mole](#):
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> So, what we can tell from this is that Sanders had the cross-party appeal Clinton almost completely lacked and would have been a better bet to run against Trump.

Ain’t enough rolleyes. The Clinton mini-scandals that the GOP got just enough mileage out of to make the election close, were nothing compared to what they’d have thrown at Bernie. They’d have wrapped him up with every historical radical left leader from Marx and Lenin to Chavez and Maduro, with honorable mentions for Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot along the way. It would have been the worst Dem Presidential run since Dukakis.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2018, 11:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-vote-democrat/824019/74 "2018-11-06T11:13:57Z")

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> [@Saint\_Cad](#):
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> Since my state doesn’t have Voter ID I’m going to vote multiple times and straight Republican just to undo all of your Dumbocrat votes.

Yeah, be sure to come back and let us know how that worked out for you and especially how many “Dumbocrat” votes you think you undid.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2018, 11:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-vote-democrat/824019/75 "2018-11-06T11:50:01Z")

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To the extent a Canadian voice matters in this issue, I endorse the OP.

Fuck you, vote Democrat, and if you’re too fucked up to realize the stakes involved, fuck you anyway.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2018, 11:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-vote-democrat/824019/76 "2018-11-06T11:50:58Z")

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> [@Weird\_With\_Words](#):
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> “I’m an independent.” You’re redundant. Fuck you, vote Democrat.

Hey, fuck you right back. How I register and how I vote are not necessarily the same thing. And I’ve already voted.

> [@Procrustus](#):
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> Washington now has prepaid envelops. No stamp required.

Florida too.

> [@Shoeless](#):
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> Hell, you can get stamps at a freakin’ ATM.

That’s a new one to me too. Where is this?

> [@amarinth](#):
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> But when someone says “I’m too stupid to buy stamps.” I have to agree with them, they shouldn’t be voting. Really - they shouldn’t be walking around on the streets. They’re a danger to themselves.

I’m still unclear on where exactly these “I don’t understand stamps” people supposedly are.

On a tangent, the (UK) Post Office, which also offers banking services, has been running a Facebook ad in which a millennial receives a birthday card and is horrified to discover a check (sorry - “cheque”) in it, as she has never encountered such a thing before. General roasting in the comments section ensued.

> [@JB99](#):
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> I voted for anyone with a D by their name. Every one.

In the end so did I, as all the R’s were either staunch Trumpists or Rick Scott.

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> (I skipped the city and county ballots because I’m not educated on local issues and have no reason to care.)

I recommend [Ballotpedia](https://ballotpedia.org/Main_Page) if you’re not up to speed on state and local ballot initiatives. It’s less useful for individuals, particularly for non-partisan races like judges, but for any sort of referenda it’s very good.

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> I will never vote Republican for the rest of my life.

Once upon a time I was a registered Republican and a Bob Dole fan. Dole is practically Che Guevara compared to the current party. If the party ever comes to its senses, or if some individual local candidates buck the trend, I might consider an R vote. Until then, it’s highly unlikely.

> [@Whack-a-Mole](#):
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> The main takeway though is that those who voted for Bernie and then Donny were not democrats in the first place. They hated Clinton and were not fond of Trump but when Sanders was no longer an option they very much did not identify as liberals or with Clinton.

Indeed, it’s entirely possible that a lot of those were conservatives voting Sanders as a spoiler, not because they liked him. How large this group was is impossible to tell, but I’d guess it was a significant chunk.

> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#):
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> Oh yeah. If the Dems take the House, we get to see Trump’s taxes, just like every other modern President.

On what basis would we get to do that? Are you positing an eventual subpoena?

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2018, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-vote-democrat/824019/77 "2018-11-06T12:05:29Z")

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> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#):
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> Oh yeah. If the Dems take the House, we get to see Trump’s taxes, just like every other modern President.
> 
> If the Republicans keep the House, they and Trump will conclude that there is no penalty for bad behavior. The Mueller investigation will be shut down and the self-dealing (Trump Hotel DC, various Saudi properties) will intensify. Also the incitements to violence against the press and others.  
> [The Stakes are Dire - TPM – Talking Points Memo](https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/the-stakes-are-dire)
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> That is why this is the first election that I’ve volunteered for a political campaign.

The Mueller investigation will probably be shut down unless there is a devastating defeat for the Republicans - a defeat so bad that it forces some Republicans to defect. The Republicans knew they’d eventually have a more competitive House simply because of how the districts were laid out. If they lose the House, they don’t necessarily turn on Trump. And he can still do pretty much a lot of whatever he pleases. But if the polls are way off and Democrats crush Republicans tonight, then there might be some soul searching. I doubt that outcome happens, but I’d love to be proven wrong.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2018, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-vote-democrat/824019/78 "2018-11-06T13:05:27Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> Hey, fuck you right back. How I register and how I vote are not necessarily the same thing. And I’ve already voted.

I think he was saying, if someone’s using being an independent as an excuse to not vote Dem in this election, fuck them.

> [@](#):
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> I recommend [Ballotpedia](https://ballotpedia.org/Main_Page) if you’re not up to speed on state and local ballot initiatives. It’s less useful for individuals, particularly for non-partisan races like judges, but for any sort of referenda it’s very good.

I started using Ballotpedia as a reference last year in the run-up to the Virginia elections, and I’ve been using them a lot more this year, enough that I figured I should start chipping in and supporting them, which I have.

> [@](#):
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> Once upon a time I was a registered Republican and a Bob Dole fan. Dole is practically Che Guevara compared to the current party.

Tru dat.

> [@](#):
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> On what basis would we get to do that? Are you positing an eventual subpoena?

I would expect such a subpoena, but my recollection is that after the Dems regained control of Congress in 2007, they issued a number of subpoenas which Bush simply ignored.

The same option is obviously open to Trump this time. The question is, can the Dems actually **do** anything about it if his response is essentially ‘GFY’? Short of impeachment, I think the answer is ‘no.’ And impeachment would go nowhere in the Senate.

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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2018, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-vote-democrat/824019/79 "2018-11-06T13:13:36Z")

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I’m voting straight Republican, because some random Liberal was mean to me on Twitter.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2018, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-vote-democrat/824019/80 "2018-11-06T13:33:37Z")

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> [@Quartz](#):
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> Nope. Vote Monster Raving Loony Party - it’s the only sensible choice. 🙂

Ha-HA! You’re so funny when you try to use humor to mask your hostility for people different from yourself.

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