# Fuck You, Voters **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 3, 2010, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-voters/559326 "2010-11-03T14:09:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-voters/559326/101 "2010-11-03T19:32:57Z")
> [@John\_DiFool](#): > > Ya know, there’s the other thing that burns. What, logically speaking, should be motivating senior citizens when they vote? They should know their time on this Earth is limited, and that they need to consider what is best for the future generations, am I right or am I right? Alright, before the Geezer Brigade here lynches me, yes I don’t blame you for being fearful some demagogue is going to steal your SS, but frankly wouldn’t you primarily vote with your children and grandchildren in mind? Yes I know I’m in my Naive Zone again, so sue me. The last Idealist in a dreary world, ho ho ho! 🆒 What’s frustrating is that any SS stealing demagogue would more than likely be Republican. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-voters/559326/102 "2010-11-03T19:34:32Z")
If we get mad at the KKK for being intolerant, do you think it would be logically consistent for people to criticize “you don’t tolerate them because they’re intolerant! HYPOCRITE!”? ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-voters/559326/103 "2010-11-03T19:35:25Z")
MY Congressional District replace a Moderate Dem, Bart Gordon–with Black. She’s the yammerhead who believes that all Muslims are conspiring to overthrow the Government. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-voters/559326/104 "2010-11-03T19:41:06Z")
> [@Binarydrone](#): > > I am pretty sure that what is really happening here is that big business runs things and has a donkey puppet on one hand and an elephant puppet on the other. These are uses to keep everyone distracted by a lot of sound and fury. What I would like to see is more people trying to look behind the curtain. No shit, sherlock. I’m not a Democrat, that’s for damn sure. I just dislike them less than I dislike the Republicans. In a choice between getting slapped in the face and getting knifed in the kidneys, you should still be pissed off when your neighbors pick the kidney option and that means you’re stuck with it, too. > [@fuzzypickles](#): > > My only big surprise is that O’Donnell did NOT get elected; I thought for sure that Delaware voters were plenty stupid enough to vote for her. Of course they didn’t elect her. She’s a fucking witch and they’re God-fearing Christian folk. > [@Bosstone](#): > > Did _any_ Tea Party nutbars get elected? If not, I think that speaks pretty well to the voters in those areas. Ron fucking Johnson got elected over Russ Feingold in Wisconsin. RUSS. FEINGOLD. The man who is quite possibly \*the \*quintessential example of what _every single fucking Senator_ should aspire to be, someone who truly cares about his constituents and puts principles above party politics. > [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > SFG, why haven’t you returned to this thread? Sorry, **Randy** , some of us have actual work to do. I know you’re bored since you got laid off, but I had a bunch of data to pull together for a meeting tomorrow and another call to hop on that I had to at least half listen to. > [@sleestak](#): > > It is politics by fear and hate, which is rather funny, because you are spewing hate in the name of tolerance. You can’t tolerate my intolernace or you’re being intolerant! Waaaaaaah! Grow the fuck up. Not all hate is illegitimate. ---
**Author:** ![Chessic\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7c8e57/32.png) [@Chessic\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chessic_Sense)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-voters/559326/105 "2010-11-03T19:44:54Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > On an equally happy note, two out of three of our local tax-raising ballot initiatives failed to pass, so that I can enjoy the spectacle of dwindling public services and high school seniors left to panhandle on the streets. These statements are what make me laugh at liberals. “High school seniors panhandle on the street”? Seriously? Oh no, those poor, poor 18-year olds! Why should they have to fend for themselves when we can just give them other people’s money?! WHY?! Don’t people realize that we have the power to take from the haves and give it to the have-nots, thus making everyone happy? You must be stupid to vote against it! Either that, or you have a sense of fairness and personal responsibility, a quality that liberals are severely lacking in. I’ll tell those panhandling 18-year olds the same thing I tell everyone bitching about not having a job: The Army’s hiring. > [@Rhythmdvl](#): > > But that’s not what won. > > Fear-mongering lies won. Bullshit. That’s just the pornography that this board likes to circle-jerk to. See **Jack** ’s quote above. THAT is fear-mongering. Obama going “you shouldn’t have to be afraid of losing your insurance” is fear-mongering. It’s pretty clear what won this election- people are sick and tired of watching their hard-earned money go to other people, whether it be Detroit or Wall Street or the sick. The American people are sick and tired of the Democrats going “give us your money so that you don’t have to be afraid anymore”. I’m the one sitting at work in my cushy job that I worked hard to become qualified for, enjoying the fruits of my labor. It’s my fucking paycheck, not yours. THAT is what won this election. > [@John\_DiFool](#): > > So, what good does it do you to cavil and complain about 20% unemployment now, when it might be 100% for your grandkids in 50 years? [Or, rather, 20% unemployment and 80% dead] I mean for Chrissakes we may be losing a substantial amount of our phytoplankton to GW-people, we need them so we can breathe, ya know? \ > > For some unfathomable reason a large chunk of the electorate simply refuses to recognize the true enemy in their midst, the stranglehold that corporations have on the entire system, from top to bottom. Big business has somehow convinced them that it’s their best buddy. They keep bleating about freedom, but they have no real idea what the word means, and all the while they become more enslaved (without realizing it) to said system, all the while continuing to worship it while it fucks them in ass all the harder. You want more examples of fear-mongering? Look no further than this post right here. We’ve got “20% unemployment”? No, it’s [9.6%](http://www.dol.gov/) (right hand side) as of last month. Then there’s “We’ll all be dead in 50 years if you elect Republicans.” You want some lies? How about that we’re “enslaved” by a “big business system”, when the reality is that the American people and American corporations are one in the same? Who do you think pays your paycheck and gives you the ability to buy a DVD player for $40? I’ve got $50 here that says someone will come in and try to defend these with “Oh, that’s just hyperbole” or “It’s OK when we do it.” The fact is, my tax rate is 32%, after all the state, local, and federal taxes. That means that when I work 9-5 Monday to Friday, I don’t even start getting paid until Tuesday at 1:48 in the afternoon. And that’s before I even buy anything and pay the sales tax on it! That’s why I’ll never vote for a Democrat, and neither should you. I don’t need anybody on Fox News to tell me that. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-voters/559326/106 "2010-11-03T19:46:10Z")
> [@John\_DiFool](#): > > What, logically speaking, should be motivating senior citizens when they vote? … but frankly wouldn’t you primarily vote with your children and grandchildren in mind? Maybe they did. Maybe they would like to know all they worked for thier entire lives will end up in the hands of said kids/grandkids instead of the up to 55% being taken when they croak it before they are even cold in the ground. Just a thought. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-voters/559326/107 "2010-11-03T19:46:23Z")
> [@Senor Beef](#): > > If we get mad at the KKK for being intolerant, do you think it would be logically consistent for people to criticize “you don’t tolerate them because they’re intolerant! HYPOCRITE!”? Yeah, but you go a lot further than singling out a group of plainly evil people who make up only a tiny percentage of the population, don’t you. Instead you’re intolerant of and make accusations of evil toward an entire political ideology and approximately fifty percent of the population simply because they disagree with you politically on how the country should be run. ---
**Author:** ![suranyi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@suranyi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/suranyi)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-voters/559326/108 "2010-11-03T19:46:31Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > “Go die in a fire.” It’s become such a trite little phrase. We even have an initialism for it: GDIAF. It’s cute and hyperbolic. But when I say it to you, right now, I mean it from the very depths of my being. I am filled with such anger, such loathing, such disgust, such shame, that I want nothing so much as I want you to die, writhing in agony, as your flesh melts from your bones and you comprehend how truly you have failed as anything but a sack of excrement masquerading as a human being. > > You have voted for lies, and fear, and hatred, and ignorance. They knocked the truth around, and tarted her up, and sent her to walk the streets as their whore. And you thought she looked a little bit like that girl you had a crush on in high school, so you handed the man $20 and didn’t ask questions and took her up to a dark, filthy room, where you fucked her on a bare mattress and tried not to notice she was crying. > > You will reap what you have sown–but so will everyone else. > > Good morning, America: I hate you. When Democrats win big elections, I sometimes see Republican supporters write messages like this one: “Oh the damn voters are so stupid.”, etc. “Suck it up,” I say. “Too bad for your side.” Well in fairness I have to say that if I say that if I accept the verdict of the voters when my guy wins, then I have to accept that verdict when my guy loses. That’s politics. I am pretty happy with the results in California, at least. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-voters/559326/109 "2010-11-03T19:47:25Z")
> [@Chessic\_Sense](#): > > The fact is, my tax rate is 32%, after all the state, local, and federal taxes. That means that when I work 9-5 Monday to Friday, I don’t even start getting paid until Tuesday at 1:48 in the afternoon. Do people really misunderstand our tax system to this degree? ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-voters/559326/110 "2010-11-03T19:50:06Z")
> [@Chessic\_Sense](#): > > Bullshit. That’s just the pornography that this board likes to circle-jerk to. See **Jack** ’s quote above. THAT is fear-mongering. Obama going “you shouldn’t have to be afraid of losing your insurance” is fear-mongering. What? Recission is factual. It happens and not too infrequently. You pay your dues, you get sick, they find a reason not to live up to their end of the bargain. People who are in their most need are often screwed the hardest in this regard. So this is a legitimate fear that people may have, and a legitimate problem to solve. “OBAMA IS A SECRET MUSLIM!” “OBAMA IS THE ANTICHRIST” “OBAMA IS A MARXIST!” “THE NEW BILL IS A GOVERNMENT TAKEOVER OF HEALTH CARE!” “THE NEW BILL CREATES DEATH PANELS THAT WILL DETERMINE YOUR WORTH AS A CITIZEN BEFORE TREATING YOU!” These are not factual. These are not a legitimate fear or a legitimate problem that needs to be solved. That is fearmongering. ---
**Author:** ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-voters/559326/111 "2010-11-03T19:51:03Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > Do people really misunderstand our tax system to this degree? No. They just don’t give a wet fart about anyone but themselves and their families, and don’t see why they should. ---
**Author:** ![villa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/bc79bd/32.png) [@villa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/villa)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-voters/559326/112 "2010-11-03T19:51:18Z")
> [@Chessic\_Sense](#): > > Who do you think pays your paycheck… A limited liability partnership, not a corporation. > [@Chessic\_Sense](#): > > … and gives you the ability to buy a DVD player for $40? Mainly the Chinese, these days. God bless their slender little fingers for being able to get into tight spaces. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-voters/559326/113 "2010-11-03T19:53:18Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > So the tolerant should only tolerate the tolerant? > > A person can’t very well insist on tolerance from a certain group and then display hatred and intolerance toward that group. For decades I’ve watched as the left has pleaded for tolerance from the right for everything from hair styles and clothing to drug use to gangsta rap to entitlement programs to…well, you get the idea. Yet at the same time they’re yelling at every opportunity about how evil, selfish, racist, sexist, backward, homophobic, provincial, red-necked, stupid and ignorant the members of that group are. > > To those who are upset at the lies and fear-mongering and rape of rhetoric that you see going on now, all I can say is “You reap what you sow”. This very same type of behavior has been coming from the left since at least the late sixties. It goes on in spades here on this very board. Now the right is fighting back, and they’re doing it by fighting fire with fire. I don’t particularly like it myself, but with the windstorm of insults, hatred, lies and distortions coming so relentlessly from the left, the right really has no other choice if they want to stay in the game. Oh for Christ’s sake. My cousin’s crazy right-wing husband recently blurted out some nonsense about how people who criticize intolerance are themselves intolerant and how much he hated them for it. I expected that kind of nonsensical sophistry from him, but I expect better from the dope. Let me try to explain in case you really truly don’t get it. Context matters. When people complain about intolerance they’re usually talking about a specific kind of intolerance. They’re talking about intolerance that is based on fear and ignorance and is aimed at innocent people who haven’t done anything to the intolerant. They’re not talking about intolerance in the abstract. Obviously there are things that everyone should be intolerant of. Everyone should be intolerant of murder, theft, rape, etc., and everyone should be intolerant of the kind of unjustified intolerance of innocent people that we’re discussing here. Being intolerant of racism is not in any way equivalent to being intolerant of blacks. Being intolerant of homophobes is not in any way equivalent to being intolerant of gays. Context matters and there are different kinds of intolerance. Playing silly semantic games doesn’t change that. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-voters/559326/114 "2010-11-03T19:54:11Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > Do people really misunderstand our tax system to this degree? The profoundly stupid and uneducated ones. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-voters/559326/115 "2010-11-03T19:54:34Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Yeah, but you go a lot further than singling out a group of plainly evil people who make up only a tiny percentage of the population, don’t you. Instead you’re intolerant of and make accusations of evil toward an entire political ideology and approximately fifty percent of the population simply because they disagree with you politically on how the country should be run. Still, it demonstrates the logic of “anyone who’s intolerant of other people who are intolerant are hypocrites!” is wrong. The irony here is that you’re concerned that I’m singling out a tiny group, yet you’re talking about one single person, the OP, and then claiming all liberals are guilty of what the OP did. But even so - let’s say a candidate ran on a platform of hunting down and killing all gays. And someone else called out for people who voted for that platform to die. Would that person be a hypocrite because they’re being hateful towards people who are themselves hateful? ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-voters/559326/116 "2010-11-03T20:00:04Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > Do people really misunderstand our tax system to this degree? Yes. They think their tax money goes into a huge pit, and naked Senators jump into it from diving boards before it is finally shaped into a huge burning man and set on fire. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-voters/559326/117 "2010-11-03T20:01:18Z")
Gosh, the world just keeps dropping to rock bottom every two years because nobody votes right. Look, after a few days of office remodeling, mediocrity as usual will resume. Congress is full of pricks nobody wanted. No potential second coming of Hitler will be able to pass any laws unless they’re seriously watered down. The power of committee sucks from both the good and bad ends, leaving mediocrity to thrive. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-voters/559326/118 "2010-11-03T20:05:45Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > Accompanied by a recording of their collective howling like broke-dick dogs. It would be soul-soothing music to the ears. Leave it to a fucking moron from Texas to support a fucking troll’s viewpoint. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-voters/559326/119 "2010-11-03T20:07:28Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > So the tolerant should only tolerate the tolerant? Yep, sounds good to me. Then the intolerant will eventually get weeded out and the world will be _so_ much fucking better. ---
**Author:** ![villa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/bc79bd/32.png) [@villa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/villa)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-voters/559326/120 "2010-11-03T20:07:46Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > Yes. > > They think their tax money goes into a huge pit, and naked Senators jump into it from diving boards before it is finally shaped into a huge burning man and set on fire. If you ever put the image of naked Senators into my mind again, I will track you down and force you to be the filling in a naked, oiled, Glenn Beck/Rush Limbaugh sandwich. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-voters/559326.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-voters/559326.md?page=7)