# Fuck you Warner Brothers, and your Dark Knight too **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 7, 2007, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-warner-brothers-and-your-dark-knight-too/429126 "2007-12-07T05:17:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Bobotheoptimist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/919ad9/32.png) [@Bobotheoptimist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bobotheoptimist)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2007, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-warner-brothers-and-your-dark-knight-too/429126/41 "2007-12-07T17:33:15Z")
[QUOTE=acsenray] The theater pays the producer royalties for a particular movie based on tickets sold. [/QUOTE] So buy a ticket to a first-run non-Warner movie and go see an about-to-go-away Warner movie and … Nah, I guess I just don’t care. My 2 movies a year aren’t going to make a difference to anyone. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2007, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-warner-brothers-and-your-dark-knight-too/429126/42 "2007-12-07T17:34:36Z")
[QUOTE=Dead Badger] Warner didn’t make her wait that long, she did that all on her own. If I wait outside McDonalds long enough, do I deserve a hamburger? People will queue for days to spend $500 and commit to a 2-year contract for a bleeding phone. People are idiots, with a weird penchant for standing in line. I can see how their _expectations_ might inflate as time passes, but expectations aren’t deserts. [/QUOTE] True, but at the same time i think that certain cultural events bring with them certain expectations. The OP has apparently used such coupons before, and it seems to be accepted and common practice to reward the coupon holders with something more than a 6-minute video clip. For me, the closest analogy is going to see a musical artist in concert. If i pay $50 to go see my favorite band play, all it says on the ticket is who is playing, and what time the doors open. There is no mention of how long the band will play for, or how many songs i will get to see. But, while different musicians and groups play for different lengths of time, there is an expectation that certain minimum standards of performance length will be met, and people will justifiably get pissed off if they feel that the band doesn’t live up to a reasonable minimum standard. If, for example, the group plays four songs and leaves the stage after 15 minutes, is that the audience’s problem because the ticket made no promise of a two-hour show? I know this is different, because the OP got the tickets free, but if this sort of promotion normally comes with a certain amount of reward, i don’t think it’s unreasonable for her to expect that her experience will be similar to the ones she’s had previously. ---
**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2007, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-warner-brothers-and-your-dark-knight-too/429126/43 "2007-12-07T17:38:28Z")
[QUOTE=Trunk] Did I miss something? The OP was PROMISED nothing. And is now SO pissed off at receiving something that didn’t meet her self-created EXPECTATIONS, that she’s going to boycott a movie studio. Seriously, did I miss something? [/QUOTE] No, I pretty much am just as confused as you are. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2007, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-warner-brothers-and-your-dark-knight-too/429126/44 "2007-12-07T17:40:02Z")
[QUOTE=Mr Shine] While I disagree that Equipoise’s stand is correct, I don’t see how she’s hurting either the cinema or the punters. She goes to matinees, (which I assume are generally half empty), pays full price for a ticket, (albeit one she won’t use) and just goes in the wrong door. The cinema still gets their cut, the public still have plenty of seats, and the only ones who are hurt are WB and the filmmakers. [/QUOTE] She did say she intends to see the new Batman movie on opening night. Which, considering the property, is very likely to be sold out. So someone who paid for a ticket for that movie is probably going to end up without a seat. Which would piss me off, if I were the guy who paid for the movie and had to spend the entire time standing in the back. ---
**Author:** ![ArizonaTeach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/45deac/32.png) [@ArizonaTeach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ArizonaTeach)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2007, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-warner-brothers-and-your-dark-knight-too/429126/45 "2007-12-07T17:57:59Z")
[QUOTE=Miller] She did say she intends to see the new Batman movie on opening night. Which, considering the property, is very likely to be sold out. So someone who paid for a ticket for that movie is probably going to end up without a seat. Which would piss me off, if I were the guy who paid for the movie and had to spend the entire time standing in the back. [/QUOTE] Now that I think about it, on opening night of smashes like that, they check the tickets on the way in…especially if you’re gonna see it at the IMAX (in fact, I remember it being that way for Batman Begins). That could be interesting. ---
**Author:** ![BMalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@BMalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMalion)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2007, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-warner-brothers-and-your-dark-knight-too/429126/46 "2007-12-07T18:18:39Z")
[QUOTE=Miller] She did say she intends to see the new Batman movie on opening night. Which, considering the property, is very likely to be sold out. … [/QUOTE] One of the many good things about living in Cleveland, never a sold out show, even on a Friday night. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2007, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-warner-brothers-and-your-dark-knight-too/429126/47 "2007-12-07T18:19:42Z")
I don’t know how things are in the “more enlightened” parts of the US, but around here “sold out” typically means that at least 5% of the seats are still open, to allow for gaps and such. ---
**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2007, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-warner-brothers-and-your-dark-knight-too/429126/48 "2007-12-07T18:31:50Z")
[QUOTE=Trunk] Did I miss something? The OP was PROMISED nothing. [/QUOTE] The OP was promised a free pass to a movie theater. You don’t think it’s reasonable to assume that this includes the screening of a _movie_? ---
**Author:** ![sockswsandals](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@sockswsandals](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sockswsandals)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2007, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-warner-brothers-and-your-dark-knight-too/429126/49 "2007-12-07T18:35:56Z")
[QUOTE=Trunk] Did I miss something? The OP was PROMISED nothing. And is now SO pissed off at receiving something that didn’t meet her self-created EXPECTATIONS, that she’s going to boycott a movie studio. Seriously, did I miss something? [/QUOTE] Are people really just not paying attention? Or are you operating under self-created expectations? She stated that she has gone to similar events in the past which have included _more than one preview_, which is exactly what this engagement turned out to be. Her displeasure is seated in the fact that WB or whatever ad agency they chose to farm this out to chose to create this event much in the fasion of the other events she attended, and that it fell short of her expectations based on her previous experiences. I mean, is that so hard to fathom? Her expectations don’t really seem all that unreasonable considering her history with these events. Maybe she has just been lucky, and managed to attend all the kick-ass free pass engagements, and that what she recently experienced was the norm. So far no one has been able to say otherwise. The concert analogy **mhendo** provided almost hits her scenario to a “t”. It would be spot on if he had assumed the concert being performed was also free. Two songs at three minutes apiece for a total of six minutes. This does not a concert make. I’d be pretty pissed. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2007, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-warner-brothers-and-your-dark-knight-too/429126/50 "2007-12-07T18:45:19Z")
[QUOTE=sockswsandals] I mean, is that so hard to fathom? [/QUOTE] No, that’s easy to fathom. What’s hard to fathom is why she believes the appropriate response is to steal from them. Yes, I know she rationalized that they wasted her time, but if that’s the standard, then she owes me for reading her OP. ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2007, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-warner-brothers-and-your-dark-knight-too/429126/51 "2007-12-07T18:48:31Z")
[QUOTE=Liberal] No, that’s easy to fathom. What’s hard to fathom is why she believes the appropriate response is to steal from them. Yes, I know she rationalized that they wasted her time, but if that’s the standard, then she owes me for reading her OP. [/QUOTE] Game, set, match. ---
**Author:** ![Mosier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ea924/32.png) [@Mosier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mosier)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2007, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-warner-brothers-and-your-dark-knight-too/429126/52 "2007-12-07T18:50:56Z")
[QUOTE=Liberal] No, that’s easy to fathom. What’s hard to fathom is why she believes the appropriate response is to steal from them. Yes, I know she rationalized that they wasted her time, but if that’s the standard, then she owes me for reading her OP. [/QUOTE] They wasted her time deceitfully. The OP never tried to trick you. ---
**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2007, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-warner-brothers-and-your-dark-knight-too/429126/53 "2007-12-07T18:56:30Z")
[QUOTE=Mosier] They wasted her time deceitfully. The OP never tried to trick you. [/QUOTE] From the OP : > [@](#): > > I had heard that the trailer for the 2nd movie in the new Batman series, The Dark Knight, would premier attached to I Am Legend. I also heard that a longer version, 6 minutes from The Dark Knight, would play in front of the IMAX version of I Am Legend. I saw this link in a thread about The Dark Knight on a movie message board. Naturally, I assumed that the pass was for the longer Dark Knight preview _and_ I Am Legend. If not I Am Legend, then Beowulf, which is what’s playing at the Navy Pier IMAX right now. So, she “heard” something. And read it on a message board. How is WB culpable? She gets free shit\* all the time\*, and \*once \*it did not meet her expectations? Life sure is hard for some folks. ---
**Author:** ![sockswsandals](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@sockswsandals](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sockswsandals)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2007, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-warner-brothers-and-your-dark-knight-too/429126/54 "2007-12-07T18:57:54Z")
[QUOTE=Liberal] No, that’s easy to fathom. What’s hard to fathom is why she believes the appropriate response is to steal from them. Yes, I know she rationalized that they wasted her time, but if that’s the standard, then she owes me for reading her OP. [/QUOTE] Actually, no. By that logic since she is trying to _steal_ from them then you can feel free to _steal_ from her. She never once asked in that WB compensate her for the screening of the preview. If she ever gets caught when and if she actually decides to carry through with her theft I’m certain the theatre will respond appropriately. Just like if you feel entitled enough to attempt to steal from her because of this thread if you get caught she will respond appropriately. ---
**Author:** ![Trunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/87869e/32.png) [@Trunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trunk)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2007, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-warner-brothers-and-your-dark-knight-too/429126/55 "2007-12-07T18:58:37Z")
They did not deceive her. A similar offer from the past does not require them to match what was given in that previous offer. She assumed they would. She was wrong. Anyone might be upset about it, but the appropriate response is “win some, lose some”, not “I’m going to boycott their movies or steal from them”. ---
**Author:** ![Tyrrell\_McAllister](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tyrrell_mcallister/32/16772_2.png) [@Tyrrell\_McAllister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tyrrell_McAllister)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2007, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-warner-brothers-and-your-dark-knight-too/429126/56 "2007-12-07T19:16:46Z")
On the one hand, I think that the OP should accept responsibility for sinking so much time on the basis of so little information. I join those who think that her anger at the studio is misplaced. On the other hand, it is just plain wrong to describe her planned revenge as “stealing”. She will be _trespassing_. ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2007, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-warner-brothers-and-your-dark-knight-too/429126/57 "2007-12-07T19:25:03Z")
[QUOTE=Liberal] Maybe WB didn’t even do anything at all. Lots of promotions in various industries are farmed out to third parties, with people who are ad agency types. [/QUOTE] You should at least find out _which_ Warner Brother was responsible. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2007, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-warner-brothers-and-your-dark-knight-too/429126/58 "2007-12-07T19:59:00Z")
Wow…just when you think skin couldn’t get any thinner… Anyhoo, if the OP wants to make her point known to Warner Bros, the anonymous boycott won’t do it. It will be a case of a tree falling in the woods and no one being around to hear it, so it never happened. Just write a letter of complaint to them and they’ll probably send you a free movie pass for the sake of PR. I mean for Og’s sake, if you’re going to boycott a huge industrial player, do it for a better reason than a free 6-minute trailer. ---
**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2007, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-warner-brothers-and-your-dark-knight-too/429126/59 "2007-12-07T20:00:19Z")
[QUOTE=Thudlow Boink] You should at least find out _which_ Warner Brother was responsible. [/QUOTE] Sounds like something that dastardly Yakko would do. ---
**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2007, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-warner-brothers-and-your-dark-knight-too/429126/60 "2007-12-07T20:01:54Z")
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