# Fuck you, Wayne Burgarello & fuck that jury too **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 1, 2015, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-wayne-burgarello-fuck-that-jury-too/721352 "2015-06-01T16:31:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2015, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-wayne-burgarello-fuck-that-jury-too/721352/201 "2015-06-09T20:33:22Z")
[Homeowner-Holds-Burglary-Suspect-At-Gunpoint](http://www.wowt.com/home/headlines/Your-Gun-and-Your-Rights-Homeowner-Holds-Burglary-Suspect-At-Gunpoint-273691881.html) This is what I mean. So this lady did something reckless and dangerous? ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2015, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-wayne-burgarello-fuck-that-jury-too/721352/202 "2015-06-09T20:41:20Z")
And one more since I’m about to leave work: [Homeowner holds gun on burglar](http://www.ksl.com/?sid=24585827) From the article: > [@](#): > > "Despain said Martin “did a great job” and really helped police with the case. “We are incredibly grateful for this homeowner and what he did,” he said. “It was brave, and it was a great conclusion to what could potentially have been a very bad situation.” Seems like if what the homeowner did was so reckless and dangerous, the police officer would have been warning others to NOT do it, instead of praising the homeowner for his actions. ---
**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2015, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-wayne-burgarello-fuck-that-jury-too/721352/203 "2015-06-09T20:45:20Z")
I don’t think anyone’s claimed there’s a situation where it would be legal to shoot them but not to threaten them, just that in a situation where it would be legal to shoot them (in some states) you wouldn’t have the _opportunity_ to threaten them so it’s irrelevant. What I’ve been unable to find is any recommendations from legal or weapons experts that one should threaten rather than shoot, and I’m still not clear why you think there would be times it’s legal to threaten to kill someone, but not legal to follow through on that threat. ---
**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2015, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-wayne-burgarello-fuck-that-jury-too/721352/204 "2015-06-09T20:51:46Z")
I’d say that, at the very best, those two people were extremely lucky. Especially the second, where he demonstrated he wasn’t willing to shoot. ---
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2015, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-wayne-burgarello-fuck-that-jury-too/721352/205 "2015-06-09T20:52:15Z")
> [@FuriousGeorge](#): > > I’m reminded of this scene (another lesson you can take from Hollywood, Robin WIlliams (RIP), and Good Morning Vietnam)… > > **Cronauer:** Let’s try a very special situation. Wilkie, somethin’ special, okay? You go into a restaurant okay? A waitress comes up to you. You’re, eh-- You’re wearing your best new suit. She comes up, she spills soup all over you, looks at you like… “Eh, I’m sorry. What are you gonna do about it,asshole?” > > What do you say to her? What would you say? They spilled something on your pants. What would they do? What would you do? > > \*\*Wilkie: \*\*I do nothing. > > **Cronauer:** Come on, Wilkie. It’s cursing class. You’re gettin’ a little pissed off. What would you do? > > **Wilkie:** I just remain reticent. > > **Cronauer:** Okay, she goes in the kitchen, she gets a knife, she starts stabbing you. She’s stabbing you. She’s putting forks in you. She’s got spoons in your eyes, Wil. They’re startin’ to cut you with knives. They’re puttin’ spoons in your eyes. What would you do, Wil? > > (silence) > > What would you do? > > **Wilkie:** I’m waiting to die. > > Now nevermind the fact that Wilkie uses a somewhat not traditionally conversational word like “reticent” in a beginning ESL class, but this seems to be the (obviously hyperbolic) stance here. Don’t you think that kind of hyperbole is unhelpful? ---
**Author:** ![FuriousGeorge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecae2f/32.png) [@FuriousGeorge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FuriousGeorge)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2015, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-wayne-burgarello-fuck-that-jury-too/721352/206 "2015-06-09T21:09:49Z")
> [@YogSosoth](#): > > Don’t you think that kind of hyperbole is unhelpful? In the pit? No [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-wayne-burgarello-fuck-that-jury-too/721352.md?page=10)