# Fuck you, window-opener-freaks (and other unreasonable rants). **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 21, 2014, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-window-opener-freaks-and-other-unreasonable-rants/679334 "2014-01-21T01:36:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2014, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-window-opener-freaks-and-other-unreasonable-rants/679334/41 "2014-01-21T18:59:14Z")
> [@lance\_strongarm](#): > > Does the air sucking thing vent outdoors? Some just blow the air back into the kitchen. It blows it out a hole in the roof. It connects to one of those spinning things on people’s houses > [@lance\_strongarm](#): > > Lots of people have asthma and they suffer from it due to mold. You’re lucky you don’t, but you aren’t the center of the universe. Then I would suggest they leave the windows closed unless they have mold or develop breathing issues. The alternative is to continue to support this quack belief. ---
**Author:** ![LavenderBlue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e95f7d/32.png) [@LavenderBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LavenderBlue)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2014, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-window-opener-freaks-and-other-unreasonable-rants/679334/42 "2014-01-21T19:04:54Z")
The cat hates the damned warm house apparently. So he ran out during the mailman’s visit. In the middle of the snowstorm. Took me half an hour to coax him back into the house from under the deck. Stupid furry thing. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2014, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-window-opener-freaks-and-other-unreasonable-rants/679334/43 "2014-01-21T19:08:49Z")
> [@LavenderBlue](#): > > The cat hates the damned warm house apparently. So he ran out during the mailman’s visit. In the middle of the snowstorm. Took me half an hour to coax him back into the house from under the deck. Stupid furry thing. Mine just flops down in front of the fridge every time I open the door. And even on the coldest morning, she’s pawing at the sliding glass door (to my 3rd floor deck) wanting to go out there and watch the world. ---
**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2014, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-window-opener-freaks-and-other-unreasonable-rants/679334/44 "2014-01-21T19:15:19Z")
> [@LavenderBlue](#): > > The cat hates the damned warm house apparently. So he ran out during the mailman’s visit. In the middle of the snowstorm. Took me half an hour to coax him back into the house from under the deck. Stupid furry thing. I have the opposite problem, cats fight over my lap … it gets old. ---
**Author:** ![Kimballkid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b5a626/32.png) [@Kimballkid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimballkid)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2014, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-window-opener-freaks-and-other-unreasonable-rants/679334/45 "2014-01-21T20:41:47Z")
> [@aruvqan](#): > > the hot water baseboard heat sucks ass as you can’t be warm unless you are sitting next to it unless you crank it so the heat is at 80F. Really?! I’ve never had a problem with mine and I’ve always had my thermostat set at 68F. It’s always maintained that temperature even when a couple of the baseboards needed to be bled off (which two of them do pretty regularly). Your house must be really leaky or something. ---
**Author:** ![j666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de0a6/32.png) [@j666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/j666)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2014, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-window-opener-freaks-and-other-unreasonable-rants/679334/46 "2014-01-21T22:54:19Z")
Most offices don’t allow space heaters, for safety reasons. ---
**Author:** ![Septima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dc4da7/32.png) [@Septima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Septima)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2014, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-window-opener-freaks-and-other-unreasonable-rants/679334/47 "2014-01-21T23:08:36Z")
[QUOTE=lance strongarm] BTW, your rage and sensitivity to cold might indicate a glandular problem. Get yourself checked. [/QUOTE] Yes, because the person who prefers standard room temperature (21 degrees) obviously has a medical problem. Not the people who are dying of heat at standard human comfort temperature. But nice condescension there. I guess you could classify being female as a “glandular problem”. You seem like the type to do that. ---
**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2014, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-window-opener-freaks-and-other-unreasonable-rants/679334/48 "2014-01-22T16:09:59Z")
> [@YogSosoth](#): > > It blows it out a hole in the roof. It connects to one of those spinning things on people’s houses Okay. The spinning things on roofs, by the way, are usually attic vents. They keep the attic cool. They aren’t meant to exchange air inside the living space (though they do create negative pressure that sucks some cool air out in the summer through leaks in the walls where the meet the ceiling). > [@](#): > > Then I would suggest they leave the windows closed unless they have mold or develop breathing issues. But then it could be too late! You’ve got the mold. Mold can not only cause problems, some kinds can even cause severe health problems - not just breathing problems, which are bad enough, but some kinds of mold can cause neurological symptoms. And a house with that kind of (rare) mold, even if you get out in time, is going to be awful expensive to fix and impossible to sell until they are fixed. Ask any qualified home builder or indoor environmental expert about how important it is for a home to breathe properly. > [@](#): > > The alternative is to continue to support this quack belief. Just because you didn’t know something doesn’t make it a quack belief, you know. Perhaps you should just learn something new. Here’s some more info. (Note that EPA says to open windows when practical!) [http://www.epa.gov/mold/moldguide.html](http://www.epa.gov/mold/moldguide.html) > **[Mold health issues](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mold_health_issues)** > > Mold health issues refer to the harmful health effects of molds ("moulds" in British English) and their mycotoxins. > Molds are ubiquitous in the biosphere, and mold spores are a common component of household and workplace dust. The vast majority of molds are not hazardous to humans, and reaction to molds can vary between individuals, with relatively minor allergic reactions being the most common. The United States Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) reported in its June 2006 report... ---
**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2014, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-window-opener-freaks-and-other-unreasonable-rants/679334/49 "2014-01-22T16:14:29Z")
> [@Septima](#): > > Yes, because the person who prefers standard room temperature (21 degrees) obviously has a medical problem. Not the people who are dying of heat at standard human comfort temperature. But nice condescension there. Maybe the cold comment was inappropriate, but the rage thing wasn’t. Everyone has different temperatures they’re comfortable with. I can’t stand being too hot and I’ll open a window on a cold day if I have to. If you ask me not to, that’s one thing, but you don’t have to rage over it. > [@](#): > > I guess you could classify being female as a “glandular problem”. You seem like the type to do that. No, I don’t seem like the type to do that. But you deserved one cheap shot. Now we’re even. ---
**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2014, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-window-opener-freaks-and-other-unreasonable-rants/679334/50 "2014-01-22T16:16:48Z")
> [@aruvqan](#): > > the hot water baseboard heat sucks ass as you can’t be warm unless you are sitting next to it unless you crank it so the heat is at 80F. Could be the water isn’t hot enough, or flowing fast enough, or there is air trapped in the coils that prevents water from doing it’s job (often there’s a little valve to bleed air - very carefully - from a hot water radiator). ---
**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2014, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-window-opener-freaks-and-other-unreasonable-rants/679334/51 "2014-01-22T16:18:32Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Did that at school a couple of times (we didn’t have access to the thermostat.) Then you have a good excuse. I remember hearing about people in Chicago during a heat wave years ago opening windows with air conditioning on. They didn’t get the principle. They thought an open window was how you keep cool. I also saw someone with their car warming up this morning with the window all the way open. I don’t know what that was about. ---
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2014, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-window-opener-freaks-and-other-unreasonable-rants/679334/52 "2014-01-22T18:16:14Z")
> [@lance\_strongarm](#): > > But then it could be too late! You’ve got the mold. Its ok, I’ll take my chances in the long term over being freezing cold every day of every winter ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2014, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-window-opener-freaks-and-other-unreasonable-rants/679334/53 "2014-01-22T19:05:57Z")
I am one of those who often feels cold. However if the temp is anywhere between let’s say 65F and 75F, then it’s close enough and you can leave the AC alone and the windows closed. You want to act like Mister Freeze? Do it somewhere else. You say the heat is killing you? Fine, die QUIETLY. ---
**Author:** ![Septima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dc4da7/32.png) [@Septima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Septima)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2014, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-window-opener-freaks-and-other-unreasonable-rants/679334/54 "2014-01-22T20:53:43Z")
[QUOTE=lance strongarm] Everyone has different temperatures they’re comfortable with. [/QUOTE] Exactly. Everyone is different. Which is why randomly yanking open windows when there are several people present, many of whom are visibly shivering and wearing extra layers, is superfluous dramatics. I’ll rage at those people all I want. Maybe no-one told you not to open the window. Well guess what, now one told you not to fart the boss’ office or piss in the coffee-pot either, that doesn’t mean it’s fine for you to do those things. Ill repeat. LEAVE THE WINDOW ALONE. Go run naked in the woods if you’re not built for the whole being-inside-and-wearing-clothes system. Actually, strike that. I’ll follow your rules: Please don’t open the window. There, I’ve asked 🙂 [QUOTE=lance strongarm] No, I don’t seem like the type to do that. But you deserved one cheap shot. Now we’re even. [/QUOTE] Fair enough, actually. ---
**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2014, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-window-opener-freaks-and-other-unreasonable-rants/679334/55 "2014-01-22T21:13:22Z")
> [@Septima](#): > > Exactly. Everyone is different. Which is why randomly yanking open windows when there are several people present, many of whom are visibly shivering and wearing extra layers, is superfluous dramatics. I’ll rage at those people all I want. Maybe I should have put it this way - rage at THEM. > [@](#): > > Well guess what, now one told you not to fart the boss’ office or piss in the coffee-pot either, that doesn’t mean it’s fine for you to do those things. Uh-oh. I’m in trouble. > [@](#): > > Ill repeat. LEAVE THE WINDOW ALONE. Go run naked in the woods if you’re not built for the whole being-inside-and-wearing-clothes system. Why? Why is your temperate preference the one that wins? What if someone lowered the thermostat instead of opening the window? Would you rage at that too? Why must you have your way? > [@](#): > > Actually, strike that. I’ll follow your rules: Please don’t open the window. There, I’ve asked 🙂 Too late. Put on a sweater. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2014, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-window-opener-freaks-and-other-unreasonable-rants/679334/56 "2014-01-22T21:16:30Z")
> [@YogSosoth](#): > > Its ok, I’ll take my chances in the long term over being freezing cold every day of every winter You shouldn’t have to make that choice. A home that is insulated and ventilated properly should be comfortable and not too damp or too dry. This is more stuff you’re learning that you didn’t know before that could benefit you. Improving your home, if it needs it, might also save you money on energy bills. But I’m glad you’ve dropped the “quackery” thing. That’s progress. ---
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2014, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-window-opener-freaks-and-other-unreasonable-rants/679334/57 "2014-01-22T22:00:48Z")
No matter how insulated your house is, if you are sitting in front of an open window, its not going to keep you warm, especially if its 55 degrees outside and you’re shivering under a blanket ---
**Author:** ![The\_Mad\_Hermit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b5ac83/32.png) [@The\_Mad\_Hermit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Mad_Hermit)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2014, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-window-opener-freaks-and-other-unreasonable-rants/679334/58 "2014-01-22T22:02:54Z")
> [@lance\_strongarm](#): > > I also saw someone with their car warming up this morning with the window all the way open. I don’t know what that was about. All you need to warm up is the car engine; if you have a good heater you should be nice and toasty shortly. The window may have been open to clear the ice, or to see out in order to back up. Some cars require more time to warm up, the oil circulates better when it’s warm. ---
**Author:** ![Kimballkid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b5a626/32.png) [@Kimballkid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimballkid)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2014, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-window-opener-freaks-and-other-unreasonable-rants/679334/59 "2014-01-22T22:09:52Z")
Or they may have been smoking a cigarette while waiting for the engine to warm up. ---
**Author:** ![buddy431](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6a8cbe/32.png) [@buddy431](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buddy431)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2014, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-window-opener-freaks-and-other-unreasonable-rants/679334/60 "2014-01-22T22:18:05Z")
> [@Anise](#): > > No, 75 isn’t warm enough. 😉 75 in the winter? What are your heating bills? We’re at 67 when we’re at home in the morning or evening, 55 at night or during the day when we’re at work. Used to be 63, when we were younger and poorer. You shouldn’t need to be wearing t-shirts indoors in the winter. It actually pisses me off more in the summer. Nice 85F day, I’m out in my shorts and t-shirt. And then I go into a building that feels like it’s set to 65 or something. That’s got to be crazy expensive electricity bills, and it’s worse (for me, at least) than if you didn’t have AC at all. It would be fine if it was the winter and I was wearing long pants and a sweatshirt, but it’s not, so I’m not. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-window-opener-freaks-and-other-unreasonable-rants/679334.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-you-window-opener-freaks-and-other-unreasonable-rants/679334.md?page=4)